The Bar

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 6:34 am

Look under profile, occupation

buckethead alien · Post by **buckethead alien** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 6:42 am

That pretty much says it all, Heli. Noble calling indeed.

(Off to the vet's to have the dog's stitches removed. Keep the tub warm for me someone.)

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 6:55 am

Being the holiday season I always have Panettone bread for breakfast. That and coffee.

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 7:53 am

Wow, LOTS of snow here, simply magnificent. Coffee?

GuinivereElise · Post by **GuinivereElise** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 7:53 am

morning all!

coffee... coffee is going to be necessary today...

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 7:55 am

GuinivereElise wrote:morning all!

coffee... coffee is going to be necessary today...

understatement

GuinivereElise · Post by **GuinivereElise** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 7:59 am

understatement. yes.

sooo... hook us up! You pouring? I take mine black...

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:03 am

Black it is, Costa Rican way dark roast.

GuinivereElise · Post by **GuinivereElise** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:05 am

perfect....

gigglesnort · Post by **gigglesnort** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:20 am

Hey everybody, look......that's my ass in longjohns!

So, they found my pictures, yay! I have to go try and work some now since I've farted the whole morning away at Walgreen's. (BHA~I'll send some pix to you around lunchtime.)

buckethead alien · Post by **buckethead alien** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:22 am

Ass shots! Now you're talking.

Sure, Giggs, fire away anytime. I'm coffee'd up out of my mind and ready to play computer. Burningsquid.com at your service.

GuinivereElise · Post by **GuinivereElise** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:26 am

yay! ass shots!

glad they found your pictures, giggles... did they at least compensate you for your trouble?

gigglesnort · Post by **gigglesnort** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:28 am

No compensation GE: I suck at being a squeaky wheel and rarely get greased that way. I'm all like, "gee, thanks for finding my pictures you guys!"

GuinivereElise · Post by **GuinivereElise** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:32 am

we'll have to teach you about being aggressive and getting what you want. My employee, Lex, is GREAT at this.

My particular trick is to do the half-joke, half-serious request. "[laugh] so, you're going to give me a deal on these, since you lost them, right?" That way you start out being nice. Then, if they say 'no', you can say, still half and half "really? wow. If I worked here, and someone had to make a special trip all the way back in, I sure would. But maybe that's just me"

go for guilt. oh yeah, baby...

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:47 am

mm, see i got for hard ass bitch. not at first.. but Sensei witnessed this one:

rj and sensei get film developed at Bartell's. They completely FUCKED one roll - colour saturation was shitty, and they were cut off all funky.

RJ: You have the policy that if you don't like your photos, you don't pay for them, right?
Bartell's: Yes, that's right.
RJ: Can you just reprint this roll? As you can see, the colour is off.... and they've been cut off mid -frame.
BD: No, I'm sorry, can you come back tomorrow?
RJ: I'm never in this part of town. You can't do them tonight?
BD: The machine is shut down.
RJ: Alright then, i guess i'll need a full refund... and the prints.
BD: We can't do that. We can't give you the prints.
RJ: [does the math for the imbeciles, proving that to reprint them correctly at their rates she'll pay twice the normal developing fee, all cause they fucked up.] So you're saying that because you misprinted my photos, I have to pay more than twice as much just to get them printed correctly?
BD: um, er...
RJ: I need to see you manager.

[rj then bends manager to her will, while wearing a look that clearly states 'make me happy or i'll stay in your store all night']

success was mine, the bastards.
always threaten to talk to their superiors, when necessary. of course, it's important to remember that it's often not the lowel level people's fault. i always sweet talk the wage slaves, and then slam it to the people in charge.

now every time i go to BD (for cheap developing it's actually decent) i drop some comment about how terrible the west seattle developing was. and then check my photos before i leave the store. i must say, they've come out well since then.

GuinivereElise · Post by **GuinivereElise** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:50 am

Oh, i can DEFINITELY get that way... I have to, for my job, at least once a day...

but I start the other way... it greases the wheels... and that way i can blindsight them with the Icicle Bitch...

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:55 am

exactly. at first, feign sweet. go for reasonable, straightforward, almost (but not quite) humble.

AND THEN TEAR OUT THEIR ENTRAILS!*

*while still trying to save the underlings from your wrath. probably because i am one.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:56 am

Dang it! Fifty pages in less than 48 hours. Are you guys nuts? Or is that Lydia's squirrels?

GuinivereElise · Post by **GuinivereElise** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:56 am

oh, yeah. love the underlings... I'm one of them, too. Really, I just manage the store... I have NO more power than my ingrates....

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:58 am

i was having lunch with someone our people did business with. he's definitely tres cool... retiring now at 48, funny as hell, very generous. and quirky.

he tells me that he told his 'boys' to make friends with the receptionists, cause they're the ones who are gonna get you what you want. i told him that so far i wasn't terribly impressed with the people skills of his successors. and that since when i set shit up for them, and it's extra, whether i like them or not is the difference between me chasing down details that they've ignored to make sure they look good or watching them fall flat on their faces while i chuckle.

since then, they've gotten much more friendly toward me. i wonder why.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:00 am

III wrote:and i (like some others) am intent on testing exactly what people mean by "radically inclusive".

I'm working on radially inclusive.

CoworkerLurker · Post by **CoworkerLurker** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:00 am

I had a boss in Idaho who told me the same thing about receptionists. I admired him very much.

GuinivereElise · Post by **GuinivereElise** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:01 am

that was my experience in the food industry. I ALWAYS made nice with all my cooks. As a server, they can make your life hell. I flirted, joked, made actual friends with them. They all loved me. And you can bet that I got my food as fast as possible, and still warm... some of the others weren't so lucky....

it was also good, because that way, I never starved. I could go back into the kitchen after my shift, bat my eyelashes, and ask for broiled shrimp, and voila!

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:02 am

i have a definite love/hate list in my head.
there are some real bastards out there. 'course, if i'm not real nice to them anyway, i'll lose my job (when it comes to clients)

gigglesnort · Post by **gigglesnort** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:03 am

{furiously writing on her clipboard taking notes from the masters}

I can only hope to be as bitchy as you girls when I grow up! I'm getting nothing done today with this housefull of children. Maybe I should just hang it up and start drinking?

{rummages around for beer and retreats to nontobacco smoking section}

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:04 am

CoworkerLurker wrote:I had a boss in Idaho who told me the same thing about receptionists. I admired him very much.

if i may add... all the support staff... from the receptionist to the IT guys, to the custodians.... you have to give respect, to get respect from the working folks.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:05 am

GuinivereElise wrote:hnmmm, that's odd. Looks like I'm the first one in the bar.

*starts water for french press*
if this doesn't get Fishy in here, I don't know what will...

Fishy visits the deeps on Tuesdays. Nothing like 24-hour cold french press. . .

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:08 am

Rian Jackson wrote:*prone, and clawing her way in through the doorway*

coffee..........coffee...........

argh.

be careful, there are mimes out there again.

Well maybe the apocaliptic kitties could make themselves usefull and eat them.

BTW--I spent yesterday designing a 4FKotA trap. Are we in need?

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:13 am

Simply Joel wrote:
CoworkerLurker wrote:I had a boss in Idaho who told me the same thing about receptionists. I admired him very much.
if i may add... all the support staff... from the receptionist to the IT guys, to the custodians.... you have to give respect, to get respect from the working folks.

yes, yes, yes.

our courier company is awesome. i had talked to the dispatchers so much by phone i began visiting them and we kind of got to be buddies. i had the most exceptional service imaginable... we all liked each other, and made sure shit got done.

now they're having more issues (don't know why) and i can say 'shawn, i've staked my life on your reliability. don't be letting me down here.' things get taken care of.

i never really get bitchy with them.

i usually end up pretty tight with buidling management, too. just cause i like them. but if i ever do need anything it's not hard to get.

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:14 am

theCryptofishist wrote:
Rian Jackson wrote:*prone, and clawing her way in through the doorway*

coffee..........coffee...........

argh.

be careful, there are mimes out there again.
Well maybe the apocaliptic kitties could make themselves usefull and eat them.

BTW--I spent yesterday designing a 4FKotA trap. Are we in need?

yes, fishy, thanks!