Don't Call it Gun Control

[Montanarchist]

Keep beating that horse. That was not a rebuttaln but a logical fallacy called Goal Post Moving- I'm sure we've been through this before but here are the main points that I have proven, address them if you want to try to disprove them.



The grayhound bus shooting is proof positive of my fourth and final fact claimed. A crazy who was legally barred from firearm ownership, who shot the disarmed law-abiding citizens in a so-called gun free zone. #guncontrol is
#victimdisarmament #GunControlNow is murder

Fact 1) Firearm production will continue no matter what laws are in place. Even without 3D printing, all that's required are commonly available plumbing fittings a household chemicals.

Fact 2) There will never be a gun free society. The Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto got firearms and led an armed resistance against their SS guards. -and if you think that Hitler didn't have all kinds of gun laws, you don't know your history.

Fact 3) If there will always be firearms, so-called gun laws will only be followed by law abiding individuals which will leave them helpless victims to the criminals who have always disregard laws.

Fact 4) What is commonly called "gun control" is actually in practical application nothing more than victim disarmament.

[Simon of the Playa]

he just did, but it's not answers or logic you want.

it's simply to disturb this board.

if that is your agenda, and im quite certain it is as you have admitted it to be so, then you can fuck right the fuck off.

and yes, this is the way i normally speak, i swear a lot, and if i come face to face with you ill tell you to do the same.

you are not clever, you are not entertaining, and most importantly, you are fucking wrong as a three dollar bill on sunday.

the only one beating off on his dead horse here is you, boyo.


go ahead, copy paste your bullshit again....

[Montanarchist]

What Is a Good Rebuttal?


In a debate, a rebuttal is the part where you explain what is flawed about the other side’s argument. Some essays and persuasive speeches also have rebuttal sections, in which you anticipate and refute possible arguments against your thesis. Either way, the key to a good rebuttal is proving that the opposing argument is irrelevant or contains logical fallacies. A great rebuttal is organized and easy to follow, and it includes the following:

A statement of the counterargument

A statement of your position and why it differs from the counterargument

Evidence to support your position

https://examples.yourdictionary.com/str ... ssays.html

[Montanarchist]

Moving the goalposts is an informal fallacy in which evidence presented in response to a specific claim is dismissed and some other (often greater) evidence is demanded. That is, after an attempt has been made to score a goal, the goalposts are moved to exclude the attempt.[11] The problem with changing the rules of the game is that the meaning of the result is changed, too.[12]

[Montanarchist]

I feel like I've banged enough brains for the day so I'm going to forego the daily victim- but I reserve the right to continue if I don't see a reduction in the echoes.

*Mutters* did they miss the evil monolog, no applause or even a gasp*

[Simon of the Playa]

"I feel like I've banged enough brains for the day"


MODS!

MODS!

I'D LIKE TO REPORT VIOLENCE

I HAVE A FUCKING MIGRAINE FROM THIS SHIT!

AIEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

INVESTIGATE!!! INVESTIGATE!!!

[Montanarchist]

*ignores complete mental meltdown*

Anyone have any logical rebuttals?

[Skuzzy61]

"I feel like I've banged enough brains for the day"


MODS!

MODS!

I'D LIKE TO REPORT VIOLENCE

I HAVE A FUCKING MIGRAINE FROM THIS SHIT!

AIEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

INVESTIGATE!!! INVESTIGATE!!!

Okay, that is funny.

As much as I detest feeding trolls, I feel like a class needs to be held, for the benefit of all who may wander into this muck.

Teacher: Class, today we are going to discuss the differences between fact and opinion. Who can tell me what separates a fact from opinion?
Johnny waves hand: A fact is immutable!
Teacher: That is correct. It is what differentiates opinion from fact. Can someone give me an example of a fact?
Mary gushes forth: Some apples are red!
Teacher: Correct Mary! We know some apples are red and some are green. That statement of fact cannot be challenged. It is immutable. Can someone give me an example of an opinion?
Bobby gives it a go: All apples are red!
Teacher: What do you base that on?
Bobby shows a picture of a red apple.
Teacher: Can that be disputed?
Mary shows off and raises a picture of a green apple.
Teacher: Very good Mary. This negates Bobby's assertion, making it an opinion, at best. You see, a single data point may support any assertion, but it does not serve to make the assertion a fact.

Gee this is fun, let's do it some more!

[^Rhino!]

My only comment on guns is this:

Guns are tools to a responsible owner. They are tools for hunting and fishing. Yes, fishing. you shoot a shark or alligator gar before bringing either onto a boat. The reason is that the shark and gar have dangerous teeth that will hurt you, perhaps severely if you should bring a live fish on board. Attempting to catch alligator is also called "fishing" ,and considering that the alligator has many teeth and the force of 2000 pounds per square inch in its bite, you damn well better shoot the big lizard before you bring it on board a boat.

When I was with the Missouri Department of Transportation, there was one gun on the inventory statewide. It was kept in a locked cabinet with the firing pin removed. It was only used to shoot icicles that hung down off the cliff overhangs on Routes 59 and 76 near Noel, Missouri. If one of the longer icicles fell during a thaw, the icicle weight might be sufficient to pierce a car or the cab of a truck. Icicles were shot off the cliffs, closing the route for about an hour in late morning or early afternoon. Ice that fell onto the road was scooped up with a front-end loader and dumped into the Elk River. Again, a tool to get the job done.

Sharpshooters from the Coast Guard and Highway Patrol shot down electric lines whenever there was a danger of contact with the water during the Flood of 1993, making things safe for rescuers in urban and rural areas. Again, a TOOL.

I use knives all the time as TOOLS : in the kitchen, fo chopping, dicing and cutting; I carried a Swiss Army knife at Burningman (it had a corkscrew for wine bottles): I've used a Leatherman multipurpose tool to put up ceiling fans - I only needed to bring the one tool up the ladder. I even have a knife in my safety deposit box - inlaid with turquoise, precious coral and lapis lazuli by a Navajo craftsman - an heirloom by any stretch of the imagination.

My point is this: WHATEVER YOU OWN, whatever you do, however you act, do so while accepting the personal responsibility that comes with ownership.

Here endeth the lesson.

[ranger magnum]

Troll or not, most of these “facts” can’t be refuted. You can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube. Guns are forever a part of our society.

Even if all guns were outlawed today, there are simply too many in circulation to ever eradicate them.

Guns will always be made, even if all domestic manufacturers closed their doors right now, as ghost guns will simply take their place. It is also not too difficult to make any type of gun if you possess machining skills. It’s the home built guns that are more frightening, as there is no regulation re size, capacity, etc. From a metallurgical aspect, they are inferior to their mass produced counterparts. Lastly, there would be no traceability.

As for guns at burningman, I would prefer there were none, as I don’t see any reason for them, save for LE.

Now tell me more about these heroin dealing gangs….(asking for a friend)

[Miura-7]

Now we have drones that can take your eye out with a pellet.“So What!” I’d rather debate, or challenge people to make the least amount of power to survive. Lighten the load, and lighten the stress.”Enjoy Life.”