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Re: Politics, Everyday, All day... morning, noon and night....II

Post by DVD Burner » Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:02 am

I myself have known about it for over 25 years now.

#FACT!

And it's been going on for over that now.
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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:06 am

Canoe wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:01 am
Canoe wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:33 am
Russian killed-in-action numbers are stunning.
🇺🇸 In 20 years of fighting in Afghanistan, the U.S. lost roughly 2,000 troops in combat.
🇷🇺 The Russians, in just over two weeks, have lost at least 4,000 and possibly more.
[Ukrainians estimate Russian losses at 12,000+]
https://twitter.com/bopinion/status/1504103634509967364
New York Times
More than 7,000 Russian troops have died since Russia's invasion of Ukraine began, according to American intelligence estimates. The number is greater than that of American troops who have been killed over 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan combined.

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1504268811016540164
[old; March 13]
Bodies of Russian Soldiers Filling Up Belarusian Morgues, Residents Say
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-belarus- ... 50455.html
"Judging from the destroyed and abandoned armor, Ukrainian forces, which comprised local volunteers and the professional military, eliminated most of a Russian battalion tactical group on March 2 and 3."
A Ukrainian Town Deals Russia One of the War’s Most Decisive Routs
In the two-day battle of Voznesensk, local volunteers and the military repelled the invaders, who fled leaving behind armor and dead soldiers
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-ru ... 1647444734?
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1504151583256416263



LIKE I SAID.

YOU FOLKS HAVE NO IDEA THE HISTORY OF

UKRAINE!


The NYT ARTICLE YOU POSTED?
IS FOR SUCKERS!


I ALREADY TOLD YOU, THIS WAR DID NOT START 3 WEEKS AGO!

#FACT!


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Don't Like The Intercept?

Post by DVD Burner » Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:14 am

Try disputing the Business insider.

https://www.businessinsider.com/faceboo ... ces-2022-2

I Got more.

WHY?


BECAUSE THERE IS DECADES OF INFO ON THIS!

#FACT!



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YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

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AND YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.


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Re: Politics, Everyday, All day... morning, noon and night....II

Post by Canoe » Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:18 am

Ukraine peace talks: Can Russia be trusted? | DW Interview
[from youtube transcript]

I have a fundamental problem and that is that over the years there have been many agreements reached with Russia.
* I remind you of the so-called Budapest memorandum in 94 where Russia guaranteed the sovereignty and territory integrity of Ukraine and Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons.
* Recall the Minsk agreement where which was concluded after last time Russia invaded Ukraine. It was an agreement which said that there should be a ceasefire and they should withdraw their heavy weapons and the monitors should be allowed to actually have you know their freeway through all of the Donbas and Russia didn't observe any of this.

So my problem is that to agree with Russia today is very difficult because Russia under Putin has lost all credibility. Nobody trusts that Russia will actually then implement an agreement it entered into.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WED0x3CNSsI
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I KNOW ALMOST ABOUT 100 YEARS OF UKRAINES HISTORY!

DO YOU?
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Canoe wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:18 am
Ukraine peace talks: Can Russia be trusted? | DW Interview
[from youtube transcript]

I have a fundamental problem and that is that over the years there have been many agreements reached with Russia.
* I remind you of the so-called Budapest memorandum in 94 where Russia guaranteed the sovereignty and territory integrity of Ukraine and Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons.
* Recall the Minsk agreement where which was concluded after last time Russia invaded Ukraine. It was an agreement which said that there should be a ceasefire and they should withdraw their heavy weapons and the monitors should be allowed to actually have you know their freeway through all of the Donbas and Russia didn't observe any of this.

So my problem is that to agree with Russia today is very difficult because Russia under Putin has lost all credibility. Nobody trusts that Russia will actually then implement an agreement it entered into.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WED0x3CNSsI
Looks like I may be older than you and been around a bit more.

I've been doin Deutsche Welle for a few Decades now.


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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:25 am

Deutsche Welle has been SORTA lying since February 24th.

THIS IS A

#FACT!

Try again to challenge me on this.



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Re: Politics, Everyday, All day... morning, noon and night....II

Post by Canoe » Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:27 am

Three independent sources report that the deputy chief of Russia's Rosgvardia (a unit of RU's interior army which has had tremendous losses in Ukraine), Gen. Roman Gavrilov has been detained by FSB. Gavrilov had also previously worked in FSO, Putin's security service. The reason for the detention is unclear: per one source he was detained by FSB's military counter-intelligence department over "leaks of military info that led to loss of life", while two others say it was "wasteful squandering of fuel", ahem. While it's hard to guess what exactly the purge/reshuffling at the top of the siloviks will result in, one thing is clear: it's doubtless that Putin recognizes the deep s**t this operation is in. I.e. it's so bad that he changes horses in midstream - a big no-no during war.
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu ... 5352349700
One unexpected "fog of war" side effect is that Russian army forgot they were pretending they didn't invade Ukraine in 2014. In this fresh obit, the RU officer is described as having been in Ukraine "first in 2014 on assignment".

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu ... 3595146241
The Russian fast-food chain that Russian parliament's speaker has proposed replace @McDonalds
has filed for this trademark. Not kidding.
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu ... 7426294785
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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:28 am

Ask Peter Thiel, Mark Pincus and Zuckerboy!
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Canoe wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:27 am
Three independent sources report that the deputy chief of Russia's Rosgvardia (a unit of RU's interior army which has had tremendous losses in Ukraine), Gen. Roman Gavrilov has been detained by FSB. Gavrilov had also previously worked in FSO, Putin's security service. The reason for the detention is unclear: per one source he was detained by FSB's military counter-intelligence department over "leaks of military info that led to loss of life", while two others say it was "wasteful squandering of fuel", ahem. While it's hard to guess what exactly the purge/reshuffling at the top of the siloviks will result in, one thing is clear: it's doubtless that Putin recognizes the deep s**t this operation is in. I.e. it's so bad that he changes horses in midstream - a big no-no during war.
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu ... 5352349700
One unexpected "fog of war" side effect is that Russian army forgot they were pretending they didn't invade Ukraine in 2014. In this fresh obit, the RU officer is described as having been in Ukraine "first in 2014 on assignment".

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu ... 3595146241
The Russian fast-food chain that Russian parliament's speaker has proposed replace @McDonalds
has filed for this trademark. Not kidding.
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu ... 7426294785
@Canoe: Think about this for a second if you get to read this......


It's 2022.

The technology that is available today?
With all the types of satellites?
Should be NO PROBLEM to be able to prove what they say.

IN REAL TIME!


Where's any evidence of anything?

I know the evidence I've posted can't be disputed.
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I AM A TECHNICIAN SPECIALIST!

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AS DEFINED BY GOVERNMENT DEFENCE!


WHERE IS THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE?
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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:37 am

OF ANYTHING?
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Should have posted the evidence before I posted mine.
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HERE ARE THE FACTS!

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Re: Politics, Everyday, All day... morning, noon and night....II

Post by Canoe » Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:44 am

Canoe wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:50 am
In Mariupol, a jet (assumed to be Russian) dropped a bomb/munition on the city's main drama theater. According to the city council, hundreds were sheltering inside. Casualties currently unclear.
Four hours old.
This was hoped for
According to the recent news, the shelter didn’t collapse and people survived. Firefighters already started helping people to get out

https://twitter.com/KatieLysenko/status ... 6668003337
An hour old
130 survivors saved so far from ruins of Mariupol Drama Theater, which Russians hit with massive bomb on March 16.

The theater was known to house hundreds of women and children. Its bomb shelter reportedly survived the attack. The rescue efforts continue.

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/sta ... 0598749185
I hope Ukrainians learn the lessons Syrians had to against Russia fast. Never reveal the locations of shelters for women and children, field clinics or greadlies. Russia will target them first. Don't reveal the locations to the UN. Russia will access them, and target them first. They will not spare your children, they will target them first. Syrians have lived through 8 years of this already.
https://twitter.com/kubicki_mary/status ... 0649060352
How about if someone writes “Ukrainian children inside” on the outside of the Kremlin?
https://twitter.com/GFortnitr/status/15 ... 6718860288
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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:46 am

Canoe wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:44 am
Canoe wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:50 am
In Mariupol, a jet (assumed to be Russian) dropped a bomb/munition on the city's main drama theater. According to the city council, hundreds were sheltering inside. Casualties currently unclear.
Four hours old.


This was hoped for
According to the recent news, the shelter didn’t collapse and people survived. Firefighters already started helping people to get out

https://twitter.com/KatieLysenko/status ... 6668003337
An hour old
130 survivors saved so far from ruins of Mariupol Drama Theater, which Russians hit with massive bomb on March 16.

The theater was known to house hundreds of women and children. Its bomb shelter reportedly survived the attack. The rescue efforts continue.

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/sta ... 0598749185
I hope Ukrainians learn the lessons Syrians had to against Russia fast. Never reveal the locations of shelters for women and children, field clinics or greadlies. Russia will target them first. Don't reveal the locations to the UN. Russia will access them, and target them first. They will not spare your children, they will target them first. Syrians have lived through 8 years of this already.
https://twitter.com/kubicki_mary/status ... 0649060352
https://twitter.com/GFortnitr/status/15 ... 6718860288

And your evidence is?

IT'S 2022!

We can get this info in real-time on video.

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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:49 am

So Far Canoe, I've been able to dispute your sources.

Can you dispute mine?
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LIVE IN A STATE OF DENIAL ALL YOU LIKE!

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FACT IS....


THIS WAR IS NOTHING NEW TO ME!

SHOULD NOT BE NEW TO YOU!

After all... it's been going on for DECADES NOW!

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My apologies.

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Post by Canoe » Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:36 am

We've seen the usual Russian kidnappings tactic, with the kidnapping of Ukrainian mayors this past week. (And one exchanged for nine Russian conscript soldier captives.)

Now it looks like the usual Russian disappearances tactic may have started already.
In A Ukrainian Region Occupied By Russian Forces, People Are Disappearing. Locals Fear It's About To Get Worse.
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-invasio ... 56418.html
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Post by Canoe » Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:41 am

Bridge at a #Ukrainian-Romanian border crossing.

Border guards left toys for Ukrainian children so that every child passing could take a toy with them.

https://twitter.com/DariaSipigina/statu ... 1088436228
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Post by Simon of the Playa » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:07 am

"It is, indeed, unimaginable what destruction Putin has rained down on Ukraine in less than three weeks: just today we learned that Russians deliberately bombed a theater where more than 1000 people, including many children, had taken shelter, apparently revisiting the technique of targeting children and civilians he developed in Chechnya and Syria. Zelensky showed a six-minute video of the destruction in Ukraine, showing how a country that only three weeks ago was full of people just going about their lives has turned into a war zone.

“Peace in your country doesn’t depend anymore only on you and your people,” Zelensky said. “It depends on those next to you and those who are strong. Strong doesn’t mean big. Strong is brave and ready to fight for the life of his citizens and citizens of the world. For human rights, for freedom, for the right to live decently, and to die when your time comes, and not when it’s wanted by someone else, by your neighbor.”

“Today, the Ukrainian people are defending not only Ukraine,” Zelensky said, “we are fighting for the values of Europe and the world, sacrificing our lives in the name of the future. That’s why today the American people are helping not just Ukraine, but Europe and the world to give the planet the life to keep justice in history.” He called attention to how very young he is to be leading the global fight for self-determination, and the extraordinary weight he is bearing. “Now, I am almost 45 years old; today, my age stopped when the hearts of more than 100 children stopped beating. I see no sense in life if it cannot stop the deaths. And this is my main issue as the leader of my people, great Ukrainians.”

“And as the leader of my nation, I am addressing… President Biden, you are the leader of… your great nation. I wish you to be the leader of the world; being the leader of the world means to be the leader of peace. Thank you. Glory to Ukraine. Thank you for your support. Thank you.”

In contrast, Russian president Vladimir Putin gave a public speech that Russia specialists saw as the launch of a fascist dictatorship. He continued to defend his invasion of Ukraine and claimed he was in an existential war for his country’s survival. He warned his people that the West was counting on “the so-called fifth column, on national traitors,” to destroy Russia. He identified those people as a culturally weak global elite who did not identify “with our people, not with Russia.” They believe they are better than Russians, he said, and would do anything to keep their lifestyle.

The West, he said, is trying to split Russians and is using that “fifth column” to achieve its goal of destroying Russia. He called for Russians to distinguish true patriots from “scum and traitors”—political opponents and dissidents—and to get rid of the latter like bugs. “I am convinced that such a natural and necessary self-purification of society will only strengthen our country, our solidarity, cohesion and readiness to respond to any challenges.”

Russia specialist Anne Applebaum tweeted: “Putin’s call for a ‘self-purification’ of Russian society can have only one intention: To remind Russians of Stalin and his ‘purges.’ He wants them to be haunted by dark, ancestral memories, to remember their grandparents' stories and to be petrified with fear.” Indeed, Russian authorities promptly launched a crackdown against anyone who showed any sympathy for western culture, beginning with a popular lifestyle blogger who had expressed opposition to the war on Instagram."



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Post by Elorrum » Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:06 am

Simon of the Playa wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:07 am
Russia specialist Anne Applebaum tweeted: “Putin’s call for a ‘self-purification’ of Russian society can have only one intention: To remind Russians of Stalin and his ‘purges.’ He wants them to be haunted by dark, ancestral memories, to remember their grandparents' stories and to be petrified with fear.”
Why can’t we listen to the grandparents’ stories? My grandmother told me about a deadly flu which I did not believe.

Putin stated he wants to spit people out “like a fly that flew in one’s mouth.” His countrymen.

I was trying to find out how many died in Stalin’s purges. I saw a number around 775,000 executed.

Quoting from Wikipedia on excess deaths in Stalin’s Russia: “…Writing in Slavic Review, demographers Barbara Anderson and Brian Silver maintained that limited census data make a precise death count impossible. Instead, they offer a probable range of 3.2 to 5.5 million excess deaths for the entire Soviet Union from 1926 to 1939, a period that covers collectivization, the civil war in the countryside, the purges of the late 1930s and major epidemics of typhus and malaria.”
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Post by Token » Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:21 am

Real good article; a bit of history, allot of now-reality.

Not sure if it’s paywalled as I’m a subscriber.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/15/opin ... r-iii.html

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Post by Canoe » Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:15 pm

Wow. I didn't expect to see anything like this, with all that's going on.
The electricity grids of #Ukraine & #Moldova have been successfully synchronised with the Continental European Grid. This will help🇺🇦to keep their electricity system stable & lights on. It is a historic milestone for our relationship – in this area, Ukraine is now part of Europe!

https://twitter.com/kadrisimson/status/ ... 1520877571
Today, the electricity grids of Ukraine and Moldova have been successfully synchronised with the Continental European Grid. This will help Ukraine to keep their electricity system stable, homes warm and lights on during these dark times. It is also a historic milestone for the EU-Ukraine relationship – in this area, Ukraine is now part of Europe.

This project has shown extraordinary cooperation and determination from everyone involved. I want to thank the European Network of Transmission System Operators for Electricity (ENTSO E) for doing a year's work in two weeks to make this happen. I want to thank the French Presidency of the Council and Member States for their support to this project that is not without risks. And I want to thank our Ukrainian partners – Minister Galushchenko and Ukrenergo in particular – for their heroic efforts in keeping the Ukrainian energy systems working in the middle of a terrible war.

The EU will continue to support Ukraine in the energy sector, by ensuring the reverse flows of gas to the country and the delivery of energy supplies that are badly needed. We are also looking forward to the time when we can continue our excellent cooperation on the green transition and market reforms.
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/pressco ... nt_22_1789
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