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Man GPS Point and Detailed Dimensions for 2024?

Post by bigbluedoggy » Thu Jun 06, 2024 3:57 pm

Hey all,
Each year a page appears on the BM site with the Man coordinates and a more detailed description of the city dimensions than what appears on the Map page. Has anyone found that yet? I did a bit of a search but couldn't locate it. Thanks.
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Re: Man GPS Point and Detailed Dimensions for 2024?

Post by Elorrum » Thu Jun 06, 2024 9:24 pm

Hey there! Big Blue Doggy.

I’m reading some recent reports of very bad surface conditions in the city footprint from last year. I wonder if that is delaying a location posting.

I do not know.
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Re: Man GPS Point and Detailed Dimensions for 2024?

Post by some seeing eye » Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:09 am

The Golden Spike is the BRC origin. The GPS coordinates and shapefiles for the rest of the city are released when the spike is driven in early August: July has data on the city plan. https://innovate.burningman.org/datasets-page/

Another piece of data is the What, Where, When database. https://playaevents.burningman.org/
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Re: Man GPS Point and Detailed Dimensions for 2024?

Post by Sham » Fri Jun 07, 2024 7:44 am

Elorrum wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2024 9:24 pm
Hey there! Big Blue Doggy.

I’m reading some recent reports of very bad surface conditions in the city footprint from last year. I wonder if that is delaying a location posting.

I do not know.
My understanding is that there are 3 locations on the playa that can be used as Black Rock City. They may (or may not) be in a rotation depending on the wear and tear of the playa. 2023 beat the crap out of the surface, so 2024 may magically happen in another spot. This may be completely erroneous information.

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Re: Man GPS Point and Detailed Dimensions for 2024?

Post by bigbluedoggy » Fri Jun 07, 2024 5:48 pm

Greatly appreciating all of the info. As I've done for the last few years, I drew the entire city in Vectorworks and discovered some very notable but subtle differences. The Center Camp change is obvious. The widths of all of the ring streets dropped from 40' to 30' this year except for Esplanade and K. And they did tell us that there are no longer any 200' deep blocks if you were paying attention. There are only the 400'(A to B), 450'(E to F), 150'(I thru K), and 250' (all others) depths. The entire footprint has shrunk a bit as well. It appears that the trash fence is now 9800' per side. Last year it was closer to 9965' The radial streets remain at 40' in width.

I'm in the process of laying in the placement grid based on last year's MOOP map. If anyone finds this interesting I'm happy to share the file when done on a one to one basis. I won't be posting a link.

We're not even bringing our camp this year, but I'm still very attached to the process, lol.
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Re: Man GPS Point and Detailed Dimensions for 2024?

Post by bigbluedoggy » Wed Jul 03, 2024 5:49 pm

That datasets page now shows all of the info for 2024. Thanks for the link!
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Re: Man GPS Point and Detailed Dimensions for 2024?

Post by bigbluedoggy » Wed Jul 03, 2024 5:53 pm

It looks like the city has moved 400' to the Northwest for this year. Interesting.
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Re: Man GPS Point and Detailed Dimensions for 2024?

Post by some seeing eye » Sat Jul 06, 2024 5:20 pm

The BMORG did an epic de-mooping and leveling of roads from 2023 rain. I would expect with such a small move, the camps would be bumpy.
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Re: Man GPS Point and Detailed Dimensions for 2024?

Post by motskyroonmatick » Sat Jul 06, 2024 9:00 pm

A general estimate of where our camp will be based off of the info on CALTOPO which seems to have an accurate basic layout of the city for last year.... Our camp will be right next to our location of our last year camp. Funny! The CALTOPO map for last year is close based on my bike ride out to G8 and back matching the streets and the distractify map made in my camp when somebody interrupted my walking the camp borders recording the path and i didn't shut off the track till much later. :)
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