why wait? you're a sacto boy, i'm an east bay girl. match made in heaven, really.TestesInSac wrote:See, now that makes me wanna go in 2k4.princess strych-9 wrote:dude, i was kidding. i have no real desire to piss blood or kick you anywhere. i would, however, love to share a cocktail with you. and lip balm, sunscreen, h20, food, beer, and anything else i have.
i'm being sincere, ya fuckin noob!!!!!!
I'm so fickle.
WAR! What is it good for?
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I just found my first good reason to add Sacto to my list of places I'd move if I go West!princess strych-9 wrote:why wait? you're a sacto boy, i'm an east bay girl. match made in heaven, really.TestesInSac wrote:See, now that makes me wanna go in 2k4.princess strych-9 wrote:dude, i was kidding. i have no real desire to piss blood or kick you anywhere. i would, however, love to share a cocktail with you. and lip balm, sunscreen, h20, food, beer, and anything else i have.
i'm being sincere, ya fuckin noob!!!!!!
I'm so fickle.
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Like your post -
Just to set something straight though -The issue of Dr. David Kelly - It is the BBC and the goverment who are on opposite sides of the fence here and it is the MOD who are being pilloried in the inquiry for making this guy a scapegoat and causing his suicide - It is one of the most fucked up things in the history of the UK - Basically Kelly said in an interview with Andrew Gilligan (BBC) that Alistair Campbell, Blair's right hand man who has now resigned 'Sexed Up' the dossier that was used to justify war on Iraq - pointedly Kelly is alleged to have said that the WMD deployment in 45 mins claim was inserted against his and other experts wishes as there was simply no evidence to suggest that it was true. He was our top man on WMD and had interviewed dozens of Iraqi scientists, he felt the later attack on Iraq was a betrayal of their confidence.
At the time the BBC ran the story the goverment demanded that th organisation retracted it - The BBC refused, in fact during the conflict the BBC had come up against the government constantly who claimed its reporting of the conflict was negative. Eventually after a veritable withchhunt the Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon ousted Kelly as the probable source for the story, not the BBC. There are now calls for Hoon to resign. The whole affair has all got very confusing now - even Blair himself has had to give evidence to the Hutton inquiry, can you imagine Bush doing this? amongst his backbenchers Blair is facing a massive rebellion.
The whole invasion was made on this claim of WMD and the ability to deploy as set out in the dossier. The dossier was used by the US and UK to make the case for war to the UN. If it is proved to be absolute bullshit inserted into the dossier then that is a mighty big deal no?
The point I am making is this, simply that the "goverment's own BBC did this..." as you seem to suggest, is not true
It is the goverment and the BBC who are at war here. It has destabilized the goverment in the eyes of the public who feel lied to and the inquiry may well yet prove that they were despite clearing Campbell. The BBC are certainly not in the pocket of the govenrment.
Best to ya,
Chimp
BTW I am sick of being called patronising Badger et al - I simply wished to generate real informed discussion (thus the use of reliable information) about one of the biggest issues of our time - sadly it seems most people can't take the argument beyond whether that should be done on the eplaya. That is why I am dubious of the so-called political edge of BM.
Like your post -
Just to set something straight though -The issue of Dr. David Kelly - It is the BBC and the goverment who are on opposite sides of the fence here and it is the MOD who are being pilloried in the inquiry for making this guy a scapegoat and causing his suicide - It is one of the most fucked up things in the history of the UK - Basically Kelly said in an interview with Andrew Gilligan (BBC) that Alistair Campbell, Blair's right hand man who has now resigned 'Sexed Up' the dossier that was used to justify war on Iraq - pointedly Kelly is alleged to have said that the WMD deployment in 45 mins claim was inserted against his and other experts wishes as there was simply no evidence to suggest that it was true. He was our top man on WMD and had interviewed dozens of Iraqi scientists, he felt the later attack on Iraq was a betrayal of their confidence.
At the time the BBC ran the story the goverment demanded that th organisation retracted it - The BBC refused, in fact during the conflict the BBC had come up against the government constantly who claimed its reporting of the conflict was negative. Eventually after a veritable withchhunt the Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon ousted Kelly as the probable source for the story, not the BBC. There are now calls for Hoon to resign. The whole affair has all got very confusing now - even Blair himself has had to give evidence to the Hutton inquiry, can you imagine Bush doing this? amongst his backbenchers Blair is facing a massive rebellion.
The whole invasion was made on this claim of WMD and the ability to deploy as set out in the dossier. The dossier was used by the US and UK to make the case for war to the UN. If it is proved to be absolute bullshit inserted into the dossier then that is a mighty big deal no?
The point I am making is this, simply that the "goverment's own BBC did this..." as you seem to suggest, is not true
It is the goverment and the BBC who are at war here. It has destabilized the goverment in the eyes of the public who feel lied to and the inquiry may well yet prove that they were despite clearing Campbell. The BBC are certainly not in the pocket of the govenrment.
Best to ya,
Chimp
BTW I am sick of being called patronising Badger et al - I simply wished to generate real informed discussion (thus the use of reliable information) about one of the biggest issues of our time - sadly it seems most people can't take the argument beyond whether that should be done on the eplaya. That is why I am dubious of the so-called political edge of BM.
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There are some people who should NOT have children. My impression is your not one of them.princess strych-9 wrote:hey badger, what if i promise to get my tubes tied before the decompression?Badger wrote:Think of the children. The mind reels.why wait? you're a sacto boy, i'm an east bay girl. match made in heaven, really.
In other words why in the world would you wanna do that? Not that it's my business but still.
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how kind of you to say so.Kinetic wrote:
There are some people who should NOT have children. My impression is your not one of them.
In other words why in the world would you wanna do that? Not that it's my business but still.
the truth is that i don't want kids and that to me is all the justication i need to get my wires cut.
besides, schreck doesn't feel comfortable getting a vasectomy. since i respect his fears, and since he would never, ever ask me to do something i wouldn't want to do ( for whatever reason ), it seems a small sacrifice indeed.
princess strych-9 wrote: i don't want kids and that to me is all the justication i need to get my wires cut.
besides, schreck doesn't feel comfortable getting a vasectomy. since i respect his fears, and since he would never, ever ask me to do something i wouldn't want to do ( for whatever reason ), it seems a small sacrifice indeed.
I have acquaintences with vasectomies, and others with tubal ligations. Unquestionably the invasivenesss of the tubal ligation causes far more severe and longer-lasting pain than does a vasectomy. It's almost an external medical procedure for males--they could probably do it in a drive-through arrangement. (Quick, convenient, and besides most dudes love to drive.) Not so the tubal ligation--that's an invasive procedure undertaken deep within your guts.
You could probably sway him by pointing out how having had a vasectomy and the resulting elimination of pregnancy fears is an incredible turn-on for frisky chicks.
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we're both well aware of the facts. it still creeps him out and it doesn't bother me in the slightest.PJ wrote:I have acquaintences with vasectomies, and others with tubal ligations. Unquestionably the invasivenesss of the tubal ligation causes far more severe and longer-lasting pain than does a vasectomy. It's almost an external medical procedure for males--they could probably do it in a drive-through arrangement. (Quick, convenient, and besides most dudes love to drive.) Not so the tubal ligation--that's an invasive procedure undertaken deep within your guts.
You could probably sway him by pointing out how having had a vasectomy and the resulting elimination of pregnancy fears is an incredible turn-on for frisky chicks.
incidentally, niether one of us really *need* to have the surgery; although we both thoroughly enjoyed going bareback for the 7 months i was on the pill (hrt for polycystic ovarian syndrome), schreck has never minded using condoms. in fact, the likelihood of my being able to conceive at all is pretty slim (endometriosis).
but better safe than sorry.
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we have blue cross california - they've been excellent about covering something like 90% of hospital expenses ( been under the knife twice in the past 12 months - i'm a quick healer, by all accounts ).TestesInSac wrote:Thing I like about vasectomies is that they're pretty cheap, as procedures go. Even at the upper end uninsured, which is around $700, that's half what I would've paid to get my left bird finger stitched up after chopping through it with a sharp chisel.
watch where you go sticking those fingers, testes - i'm sure making out with stumps leaves something to be desired.
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ok, fuck schreck, fuck the wedding in four weeks - kinetic, i think *we* should run away to vegas.Kinetic wrote:Vasectomies are not perfect, I have a cousin who had one and had some complications from it. Surgery is still surgery, and any clipping off of the plumbing is best taken seriously. Still I'd do it before asking a woman to go through that.
our only problem, as i see it, it who's going to wear the dress
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Funny quote -
During short stint at The Independent after studying journalism I was sitting on the news desk ringing MPs about the notion of targeted bombing in Afghanistan being disingenuos (spelling)
The News Editor comes crashing through the office bellowing "There's just no legs in this war!"
meaning it was becoming dull to report on.
I am assuming this time Borris that you are being satirical - We did a satirical section last November in Dazed called 'Hellno', a pisstake of Hello mag - it was pretty much anti war and won us an award
This was the stuff I wrote for the 'War on television' page last November, an alternative TV listings - sure you will all hate it...might make some of you laugh though, hope so
Unfortunately a lot of the humour applies to English TV programmes - check it out
20.30 Newsnight Special
Casey Kasem, former US Billboard Chart presenter, is unmasked as a pivotal Al Qaeda figure in the War on Terror (TM) It is thought he may have been behind much of the movements' activities since his forced departure from US screens in the early nineties when he shocked the world by speaking out against the US led war on Iraq of the time. Also it is believed that the failure of Van Halen to remain in the Top Ten on a regular basis may have compounded his feelings of bitterness toward Western Consumer culture.
02.00 BBC Learning Zone: History Night
US government funded show that this morning teaches how The Confederacy bravely won the US Civil War and the Second World War (Fought chiefly against Russia) while extolling the virtues of McCarthy and Nixon as voices of radical libertarian idealism in the Sixties. Also featured is the tale of American hero John Rambo who single handedly overthrew the pesky Viet Cong in three stages and an interview with WWF Wrestler 'The Rock' said to be the American secret weapon in the War On Terror(TM)
21.30 The League Of Nations
Dark satire in this twisted offbeat comedy, In this episode Madeleine Albright loses all of her precious pens, not to be missed.
22.00 Saddam the Infidel Slayer
Sarah Michelle Geller is back as the immortal dictator with a bitchin' attitude in this much loved series.
23.00 The Blue Planet
David Attenborough gives us a taste of what life will be like on the open seas post atomic destruction / devastation.
20.30 Panorama
Investigation into claims that a covert troop of French Left Bank existentialists were deployed in the Afghan conflict to convince the Taliban of the non existence of god. The Sartre brigade (or Black Berets) are alleged to have effectively spread doubt, despondency and existential anomie among the enemy by establishing a number of cafes at strategic points and talking animatedly with impossibly beautiful girlfriends about the absurd nature of existence.
7.00 Talibannies
Colourful gibberish show for under fives.
11.00 Bob's Full House
Bob Monkhouse invites us in to his home to meet his rare collection of international refugees.
16.30 Jackanory
Saddam hussein allows weapons inspectors full access to his baby milk factories and declares his undying devotion to the freedom, liberty and the American Way
19.00 Location, Location, Location
The Property experts ask the burning question, just where the hell is Osama Bin Laden.
21.30 Big Brother
Texan favourite, George Bush, presents a new fly on the wall documentary show that allows ordinary folks to see the day-to-day trials faced in the smooth running of the state of Florida. The task set the members of the big brother state this week is how to make sure voting forms remain unintelligible to those dark skinned immigrant types that threaten the very fabric of Democracy(TM)
19.30 The A team
Hannibal and the gang succesfully overturn the Iraqi regime with a truck that shoots vegetables from a cannon made out of paper and bits of old tin, incredibly no one is hurt.
10.OO Antiques Roadshow
Is that a genuine piece of Ancient Babylonian stonework or a later 'Glory Be To Saddam' inscribed imitation.
10.30 Changing rooms
Lawrence Lewellyn Bowen takes one Palestininian bombed out hovel and gives it a contemporary makeover. This episode is a must for all those interested in giving their urban Spaces that post Israeli occupation force chic that is so very de riguer.
11.00 Songs Of Praise
Thora Hird in a rare interview with Mullah Omar discusses faith and the role of women in the 21st Century.
12.00 Police Stop!
Follow the hectic life of the Iraqi Presidential Guards as they try to outwit those foxy UN Inspectors while getting on with the ceaseless day to day business of weeding out civilian families accused of treason, and hanging them in public spaces.
1.00 The Money Programme
How much are those Iraqi reserves going to be worth and when is the best time to invest in shares. Your favourite fat faced capitalist piggy presenter answers your queries.
22.00 Black Adder
Rowan Atkinson is back this season as a sharp-witted weapons inspector who yearns for the quiet life. Hilarity ensues in this pilot episode when his half-witted radioactive partner 'Bald Rick' has to evade a possible hostage situation by way of a cunning plan involving baby milk, cyanide and weapons-grade uranium.
22.30 Porridge
Chirpy Cockney Afghans banter with prison guards in this gritty depiction of life in Camp X Ray (repeat)
23.00 Film: Planespotting
This tale of smack abusing tearaway terrorist factions is a painfully realistic snapshot of life with an outdated US made anti aircraft gun. The good times soon turn sour for the band of poppy loving Afghans when the full might of the American war machine is bought to bear upon their people. Expect the highs as well though as director Danny Boyle imbues the tragedy of heroin addiction with moments of sublime comedy, "For a devout Muslim you're an evil fookin' shot with that AK47 Rents"
Got the stuff for the Panorama bit from a pal in the US
he he he
During short stint at The Independent after studying journalism I was sitting on the news desk ringing MPs about the notion of targeted bombing in Afghanistan being disingenuos (spelling)
The News Editor comes crashing through the office bellowing "There's just no legs in this war!"
meaning it was becoming dull to report on.
I am assuming this time Borris that you are being satirical - We did a satirical section last November in Dazed called 'Hellno', a pisstake of Hello mag - it was pretty much anti war and won us an award
This was the stuff I wrote for the 'War on television' page last November, an alternative TV listings - sure you will all hate it...might make some of you laugh though, hope so
Unfortunately a lot of the humour applies to English TV programmes - check it out
20.30 Newsnight Special
Casey Kasem, former US Billboard Chart presenter, is unmasked as a pivotal Al Qaeda figure in the War on Terror (TM) It is thought he may have been behind much of the movements' activities since his forced departure from US screens in the early nineties when he shocked the world by speaking out against the US led war on Iraq of the time. Also it is believed that the failure of Van Halen to remain in the Top Ten on a regular basis may have compounded his feelings of bitterness toward Western Consumer culture.
02.00 BBC Learning Zone: History Night
US government funded show that this morning teaches how The Confederacy bravely won the US Civil War and the Second World War (Fought chiefly against Russia) while extolling the virtues of McCarthy and Nixon as voices of radical libertarian idealism in the Sixties. Also featured is the tale of American hero John Rambo who single handedly overthrew the pesky Viet Cong in three stages and an interview with WWF Wrestler 'The Rock' said to be the American secret weapon in the War On Terror(TM)
21.30 The League Of Nations
Dark satire in this twisted offbeat comedy, In this episode Madeleine Albright loses all of her precious pens, not to be missed.
22.00 Saddam the Infidel Slayer
Sarah Michelle Geller is back as the immortal dictator with a bitchin' attitude in this much loved series.
23.00 The Blue Planet
David Attenborough gives us a taste of what life will be like on the open seas post atomic destruction / devastation.
20.30 Panorama
Investigation into claims that a covert troop of French Left Bank existentialists were deployed in the Afghan conflict to convince the Taliban of the non existence of god. The Sartre brigade (or Black Berets) are alleged to have effectively spread doubt, despondency and existential anomie among the enemy by establishing a number of cafes at strategic points and talking animatedly with impossibly beautiful girlfriends about the absurd nature of existence.
7.00 Talibannies
Colourful gibberish show for under fives.
11.00 Bob's Full House
Bob Monkhouse invites us in to his home to meet his rare collection of international refugees.
16.30 Jackanory
Saddam hussein allows weapons inspectors full access to his baby milk factories and declares his undying devotion to the freedom, liberty and the American Way
19.00 Location, Location, Location
The Property experts ask the burning question, just where the hell is Osama Bin Laden.
21.30 Big Brother
Texan favourite, George Bush, presents a new fly on the wall documentary show that allows ordinary folks to see the day-to-day trials faced in the smooth running of the state of Florida. The task set the members of the big brother state this week is how to make sure voting forms remain unintelligible to those dark skinned immigrant types that threaten the very fabric of Democracy(TM)
19.30 The A team
Hannibal and the gang succesfully overturn the Iraqi regime with a truck that shoots vegetables from a cannon made out of paper and bits of old tin, incredibly no one is hurt.
10.OO Antiques Roadshow
Is that a genuine piece of Ancient Babylonian stonework or a later 'Glory Be To Saddam' inscribed imitation.
10.30 Changing rooms
Lawrence Lewellyn Bowen takes one Palestininian bombed out hovel and gives it a contemporary makeover. This episode is a must for all those interested in giving their urban Spaces that post Israeli occupation force chic that is so very de riguer.
11.00 Songs Of Praise
Thora Hird in a rare interview with Mullah Omar discusses faith and the role of women in the 21st Century.
12.00 Police Stop!
Follow the hectic life of the Iraqi Presidential Guards as they try to outwit those foxy UN Inspectors while getting on with the ceaseless day to day business of weeding out civilian families accused of treason, and hanging them in public spaces.
1.00 The Money Programme
How much are those Iraqi reserves going to be worth and when is the best time to invest in shares. Your favourite fat faced capitalist piggy presenter answers your queries.
22.00 Black Adder
Rowan Atkinson is back this season as a sharp-witted weapons inspector who yearns for the quiet life. Hilarity ensues in this pilot episode when his half-witted radioactive partner 'Bald Rick' has to evade a possible hostage situation by way of a cunning plan involving baby milk, cyanide and weapons-grade uranium.
22.30 Porridge
Chirpy Cockney Afghans banter with prison guards in this gritty depiction of life in Camp X Ray (repeat)
23.00 Film: Planespotting
This tale of smack abusing tearaway terrorist factions is a painfully realistic snapshot of life with an outdated US made anti aircraft gun. The good times soon turn sour for the band of poppy loving Afghans when the full might of the American war machine is bought to bear upon their people. Expect the highs as well though as director Danny Boyle imbues the tragedy of heroin addiction with moments of sublime comedy, "For a devout Muslim you're an evil fookin' shot with that AK47 Rents"
Got the stuff for the Panorama bit from a pal in the US
he he he
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What, no turnip??Chimp wrote:22.00 Black Adder
Rowan Atkinson is back this season as a sharp-witted weapons inspector who yearns for the quiet life. Hilarity ensues in this pilot episode when his half-witted radioactive partner 'Bald Rick' has to evade a possible hostage situation by way of a cunning plan involving baby milk, cyanide and weapons-grade uranium.
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Outrage in Iraq
The continuing outrage in Iraq. the US spends billions trying to get all the shit working again and Hussein loyalists blow it up. This is their MO. Make their own people suffer and let them blame it on those trying to help.
Raw sewage flowing into the sacred Tigris. UN headquarters bombed again.
Raw sewage flowing into the sacred Tigris. UN headquarters bombed again.
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00:00 late night comedy - Ab-Fab, Edina and Patsy travel to Bagdhad to closeley inspect Sadam Husain's chemicals
00:30 late night comedy continues with Yes President, and this time sir humphrey manages to convince president Bush yet again.......
20:30 Gameshow - The missing link, Anne Robinson weeds out Sadam's scientists.
09:00 Lifestyle gameshow - Clebrity ready steady cook Prepear a gourme meal in 2 minutes (before the rocket hits you)
09:30 Daily soap - Middleastenders.
10:00 Lifestyle - The Life Lawndry, Storage expert Dawna Walter helps Sadam clean up his clutter.
Oh and as to satire, no i wasn't satirical this time, the gulf war has given me a net of 5000$ added income, while the war on terror (and the second intifada with it) has uped my income by about 20,000$ (over the last 2 years)
but I'd gladly forfeit this income in excahnge for global peace if there was even a remote chance of it happening.
00:30 late night comedy continues with Yes President, and this time sir humphrey manages to convince president Bush yet again.......
20:30 Gameshow - The missing link, Anne Robinson weeds out Sadam's scientists.
09:00 Lifestyle gameshow - Clebrity ready steady cook Prepear a gourme meal in 2 minutes (before the rocket hits you)
09:30 Daily soap - Middleastenders.
10:00 Lifestyle - The Life Lawndry, Storage expert Dawna Walter helps Sadam clean up his clutter.
Oh and as to satire, no i wasn't satirical this time, the gulf war has given me a net of 5000$ added income, while the war on terror (and the second intifada with it) has uped my income by about 20,000$ (over the last 2 years)
but I'd gladly forfeit this income in excahnge for global peace if there was even a remote chance of it happening.
Shit, where was i for the last week... ehm...
Since the Americans worked extremely hard to not target infrastructure, and since American weapons' targeting and flight control systems are designed and built (at significant expense) to be as accurate and precise as possible, no.Chimp wrote:-"The US spends billions trying to get all the shit working again"
er, that would be the same shit they spent billions of dollars destroying right?
PJ you have proof of this targeted campaign right? Oh yeah, you mean those grainy black and white pics - BTW dude those 'really clever' weapons aren't even safe for your owns troops to use, two words - 'Depleted Uranium', look it up
Obviously this 'targeted campaign' mindset shows itself as true even down to the incidents of soldiers who shoot interpreters sat next to Italian diplomats.
Don't belive the hype.
Obviously this 'targeted campaign' mindset shows itself as true even down to the incidents of soldiers who shoot interpreters sat next to Italian diplomats.
Don't belive the hype.