Throat Singing Music from Tuva

Mister Jellyfish Mister · Post by **Mister Jellyfish Mister** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 8:12 am

I love this stuff. It's like the chanting of the monks of Tibet, but it's got a good beat and you can dance or ride an art car to it. Got any good links? Here's a few:

http://www.fotuva.org/music/t-perf.html

http://www.huunhuurtu.com/

http://www.fotuva.org/music/t-perf.html

http://www.genghisblues.com/cd/index.html

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... ce&s=music

robotland · Post by **robotland** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 9:53 am

I can perform a rough approximation of Tuvan throatsinging after about eight cans of Milwaukee's Best Light.....my record's "most of the way through the alphabet".....

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 3:42 pm

yes! Tuvan throat singing rules. Ever see Ghengis Blues"? about Paul Pena? Paul came to my highschool once upon a time to sing.....he was great.

Mister Jellyfish Mister · Post by **Mister Jellyfish Mister** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 7:41 pm

cowboyangel wrote:yes! Tuvan throat singing rules. Ever see Ghengis Blues"? about Paul Pena? Paul came to my highschool once upon a time to sing.....he was great.

Yep, that was a cool flick. He reminded me of our elustrious camp leader, Hageymon. Leave it to a blind guy to figure it out better than anybody.

People ask me how I got good at voice impressions and I tell them that when I hear my voice recorded on tape it sounds like me to me. That's the trick. To know what you sound like outside of your own reverberating skull. Hey, I'm on the theme now.

Robotland: You want the ass singing topic because I know that beer doesn't make you belch. Raising a glass of Keystone Lite... here's looking up your alphabet.

gigglesnort · Post by **gigglesnort** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 11:01 am

I think I heard a blippit about throat singing on NPR once. I know the beau sings when I use my throat to......uh, nevermind...... :oops:

diane o'thirst · Post by **diane o'thirst** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 7:09 pm

We used to have Tuvan throatsinging workshops in Opera Camp. One of the guys who camped with us, Arjuna, is a Hawai'ian guy who gives lessons in Berkeley from time to time. Brilliant, wonderful guy. I thought I couldn't sing until I took one of his workshops in camp and came out with my throat opened.

A side-effect of learning to throat sing is that my wolf howls got better, I realized that OM and wolf howls are virtually the same process (wolf and human vocal tracts are essentially identical) and I taught myself how to purr. Like a cat, down in my throat. My cat goes nuts when I do it; I can actually purr and talk at the same time. So much for the theory that hyoid bones interfere with it. Arjuna taught me how to utilize my entire pulmonary system, from the diaphragm all the way up to my lips.

Throat-singing is a great thing to do in any type of ritual, too. It lends an otherworldly air to the proceedings, almost as if the spirits are present and singing.

Mister Jellyfish Mister · Post by **Mister Jellyfish Mister** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:07 pm

diane o'thirst wrote:We used to have Tuvan throatsinging workshops in Opera Camp. One of the guys who camped with us, Arjuna, is a Hawai'ian guy who gives lessons in Berkeley from time to time. Brilliant, wonderful guy. I thought I couldn't sing until I took one of his workshops in camp and came out with my throat opened.

A side-effect of learning to throat sing is that my wolf howls got better, I realized that OM and wolf howls are virtually the same process (wolf and human vocal tracts are essentially identical) and I taught myself how to purr. Like a cat, down in my throat. My cat goes nuts when I do it; I can actually purr and talk at the same time. So much for the theory that hyoid bones interfere with it. Arjuna taught me how to utilize my entire pulmonary system, from the diaphragm all the way up to my lips.

Throat-singing is a great thing to do in any type of ritual, too. It lends an otherworldly air to the proceedings, almost as if the spirits are present and singing.

Kewl! 'Love to meet Arjuna some time. From what part of your body does the overtone resonate?

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:52 pm

Throat music from Tuva kind of reminded me of Butt music from a Tuba. All you should have to do is replace the mouthpiece with a funnel and you should be in business. Call it the Flatuphone.

Or am I totally out of line here?

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:58 pm

you are way out of line...throat singing is also the techique Tbetan monks use in their world famous chanting...why don't you try it sometime?
can imagine what comment Rob would add here......oh well
Love, Cowboyangel

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:59 pm

He is an engineering type, would probably tell me that it would require the enlargement and renaming of the "spit valve" or the placement of a screen at the neck of the funnel.

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:01 pm

see...we all have elements of Rob consciousness within

diane o'thirst · Post by **diane o'thirst** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:17 pm

Here, let me try it...

[ait up straight, lick lips, get in the space, try to tune out "Death and the Maiden" or at least hum along with it]

I can't quite place where the overtone's coming from with Tuvan, let me try an OM (little more powerful)

[Adjust mindtune to a more Himalayan space, think Wolf, think singing bowls, think Macchendra, pretend I'm flying on a lotus while the third eye is opening]

[COUGH! COUGH! COUGH!] Ack. Need to drink water and lube the pipes...

Apparently, the overtone's coming from my sinus cavities, but I did feel it in the three-way stitch up in my brainbox. But to compare Tuvan throat singing and Tantric chanting isn't entirely right, the latter is a good deal more gutteral though I have heard some monks do a kind of glissando, like a wolf howl.

Arjuna likes to chant into didges, conches and has a real, honest-to-Buddha Tibetan horn. That sucker's 15' long and he used to keep it in my yurt when it was camp infrastructure. He also held the workshops there until he got too many people coming in. It's only 16' feet and one day we had people piled three deep. It was at that point where we decided that, however on-topic and atmospheric it was, it was time to move out of the yurt...

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:21 pm

diane o'thirst wrote:Apparently, the overtone's coming from my sinus cavities, but I did feel it in the three-way stitch up in my brainbox. But to compare Tuvan throat singing and Tantric chanting isn't entirely right, the latter is a good deal more gutteral though I have heard some monks do a kind of glissando, like a wolf howl...

Yeah, I figured the tuba thing was easier.

diane o'thirst · Post by **diane o'thirst** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:30 pm

Nonsense! It's like humming with your lips slightly parted.