The Bar

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:46 am

Martiansky wrote:I don't think I want to buy a truck with higher miles on it then my truck but a low price.......I want a V6 because my little 4 cyl seems under powered.
Oh, the g-man is mad, he just had to back all the way down the street because of the street is blocked by two cars parked across from one another!

I wanna v8 because my little f250 v6 seems underpowered. Man, I miss Tania's power!

Sandwichman · Post by **Sandwichman** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:58 am

Rob the Wop wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:
Sandwichman wrote: A person who shits on anothers dreams is usually digging for a way to make them feel better about their own social inadequecies. The first time my father told me he was proud of me was when I was 22. Can you imagine 22 years without any real sense of knowing if you were accepted by one of the most influential figures of your life. He has slowly come to learn that he cannot force his shortcomings or inability to follow his dreams upon my life. I learned over years to stop sharing my dreams with those negative people. I only share my successes and try to learn from my failures.

That is my late night wisdom for ya. Your mileage may vary.

Jason

PS I think I am out for the night. Thanks for all who listened in. If I am stuck home tomorrow expect more.
"Beware of people who _______your dreams, small people do that." I forgot the rest of the quote and the author. Mark Twain comes to mind, but maybe that's another quote on the same subject. I have a couple of ex boyfriends that that applied to. (only 70some pages to go.)
Uhm. Depends. I have to admit to shitting on a couple people's dreams. Sometimes you have to sit someone down and say "Your idea of opening a X shop/business/invention is nice, but have you actually thought about more than just the concept?"

My ex and my brother are perfect examples. My ex wanted to make a living selling artisitic greeting cards. Granted, they are very cool, but a quick financial analysis shown that there was no way in hell that she could make enough to live on unless she sold them for $10 a piece- and at around 150 per week. I had to naviate the sticky path of convincing her to not rely on it without hurting her feelings.

My brother, on the other hand, had an idea for an invention. All he had to do was get investors to give him 1/4 million. Uh, no. I had to sit him down and ask tougher questions- do you have a concrete business proposal with market evidence showing it could truely sell? Do you have distributers that would sell the item for you (he was planning on selling a million units)? Do you have a place to store these million huge ass pieces of equipment? Can you convince investors that an non-degreed draftsman can produce a profit for them in a volatile market? One that has never run a business, or been in marketing? How much was alloted to advertizing and marketing (ie. how would people know to buy it)? If someone steals your design, do you have a lawyer and funds to go after them?

Needless to say, the answer was no.

There is a definite difference between shitting on ones dreams and helping them see what may stand in the way. It is good to show people obstacles that may lie ahead, as long you are willing to offer solution or another way of thought. Now Rob if you were to tell your brother or your Ex that their dreams were stupid and that it was idiotic to think it could ever work, then you would be guilty of truly shitting on their dreams. I think what you offered was a reality check that may have helped them grow to possibly in the future realize their dreams with more insight.

Jason

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:01 am

Hey there! Time for an afternoon quicky.

But booze will have to suffice since this isn't the ePlaya Brothel.

tisha2 · Post by **tisha2** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:02 am

hmmmm....eplaya brothel.... maybe i need to diversify...

what can i getcha, sput?

drink, dj?

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:02 am

geekster wrote:I can put myself into natural insulin shock fairly easily. All I need to do is wake up late run around getting kids to school head to work and grab a soda and a candy bar out of the machine. About 45 minutes later I will have burned up all that sugar but my little old pancreas is still pumping out the insulin ... cold sweat, weakness, trembling, irregular heartbeat ... I need juice NOW! And then something a little more complex that takes longer to break down. I had that happen to me once on the freeway and I wasn't sure I was going to make it home.

Ah, you can clean up your act, or you can stock the car with some juice boxes and glucose tablets and nuts. Or something.

Martiansky · Post by **Martiansky** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:03 am

*M walks into the bar...notices a quarantine section. HHMM....she walks around the bar and sits as far away from it as possible*

Hello! How is everyone today? I think I'll have a chocolate Udder Cola for now.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:03 am

GuinivereElise wrote:mine happen really fast... 30-60 seconds from the time I feel dizzy and nasueas until I pass out, cold...

scary...

Take care and consider a medic alert bracelet in case you collapse unattended.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:07 am

tonytohono wrote:nothing wrong with gettin' crafty.

What's the good word?

Yeah, i'm one of those who feel that the division between "art" and "craft" has something to do with maintaining the status of certain dead white men.

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:09 am

Sandwichman wrote:

There is a definite difference between shitting on ones dreams and helping them see what may stand in the way. It is good to show people obstacles that may lie ahead, as long you are willing to offer solution or another way of thought. Now Rob if you were to tell your brother or your Ex that their dreams were stupid and that it was idiotic to think it could ever work, then you would be guilty of truly shitting on their dreams. I think what you offered was a reality check that may have helped them grow to possibly in the future realize their dreams with more insight.

Jason

my god, man, don't tell him that. you'll break his heart. and be guilty of shitting on his dreams.

bad dj. wanna paddling?

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:09 am

Tisha! So nice to see you. Been a long time. How about a vodka on the rocks?

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:09 am

tonytohono wrote:So it would seem DVD! Tohono isn't actually my last name though. It is actually an American Indian Tribe (Tohono O'odham) from the south west. It was also the name of one of my bands, and that is where I picked up the nickname.

I will say it is nice to have you around again.

Aha! I'd wondered about that. Tohono O'odham means the People. But then most tribal names do. . .

tisha2 · Post by **tisha2** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:11 am

Hi Sput!! music today??
you got it, baby!! Skyy okay?? *tinkle, splash, pour * lime?

Martiansky · Post by **Martiansky** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:12 am

Hey Fishy...here's something in your honor! For a little while anyways.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:13 am

samtzu wrote:Hack! Hack! Phtuu! See ya' sweetie....

Could I get a scotch and penicillan please?

Careful! You may have to drink that for a week!

(Plus it can keep your birth control from working)

Sandwichman · Post by **Sandwichman** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:15 am

tisha2 wrote:drink, dj?

Bartenders choice for now. Thank you

Jason

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:15 am

tisha2 wrote:Hi Sput!! music today??
you got it, baby!! Skyy okay?? *tinkle, splash, pour * lime?

Lime? hmmmm...sure.

Maybe music will be running a little later.

Sandwichman · Post by **Sandwichman** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:16 am

Rian Jackson wrote:
Sandwichman wrote:

There is a definite difference between shitting on ones dreams and helping them see what may stand in the way. It is good to show people obstacles that may lie ahead, as long you are willing to offer solution or another way of thought. Now Rob if you were to tell your brother or your Ex that their dreams were stupid and that it was idiotic to think it could ever work, then you would be guilty of truly shitting on their dreams. I think what you offered was a reality check that may have helped them grow to possibly in the future realize their dreams with more insight.

Jason
my god, man, don't tell him that. you'll break his heart. and be guilty of shitting on his dreams.

bad dj. wanna paddling?

But you just shit on my dreams.

And shouldn't that paddle only be used on you today?

Jason

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:16 am

helitack wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:
helitack wrote:No BDU's, gray shirt, green pants, flat hat, you know, Park Ranger uniforms.
Do you ever get to dress up as Smoky?
Nope, different agency. Wrong message too, remember lightning is good, fire is our friend.

Forest Service? Actually, my collegue former BLM did the Smokey thing.

Yeah, I know fire is your friend, yet Smokey seems as unstoppable as the energizer bunny.

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:16 am

theCryptofishist wrote:
samtzu wrote:Hack! Hack! Phtuu! See ya' sweetie....

Could I get a scotch and penicillan please?
Careful! You may have to drink that for a week!

(Plus it can keep your birth control from working)

Penicyllin keeps 'doms from working?

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:19 am

helitack wrote:Here is what my friend the tree sez about the "Healthy Forest Initiative"
http://www.tonyrogers.com/humor/images/ ... g_bird.jpg

Here's what Orwell has to say:

Orwell wrote:Doubleplusgood use of newspeak.

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:20 am

Sandwichman wrote:

And shouldn't that paddle only be used on you today?

darlin' I'm already getting a psychological paddling. i just added another tenth of a point to the breakup drama counter, my friends are at war, and the world is being blown up.

still having a good day though. i think that's mostly 'cause of getting to yell at yellow cab again. but i'm sure i still have some excess energy to lay into this paddle....

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:20 am

Martiansky wrote:Hey Fishy...here's something in your honor! For a little while anyways.

I noticed that! Thank you!

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:22 am

theCryptofishist wrote:
helitack wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:Do you ever get to dress up as Smoky?
Nope, different agency. Wrong message too, remember lightning is good, fire is our friend.
Forest Service? Actually, my collegue former BLM did the Smokey thing.

Yeah, I know fire is your friend, yet Smokey seems as unstoppable as the energizer bunny.

remember I am NPS, we have just a little different take on things.

Martiansky · Post by **Martiansky** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:23 am

You're welcome!

Fishy, I love your avatar! One day when I'm not so computer illiterate maybe I can have a animated one!

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:23 am

I like it, M-Sky. Actually, please don't go animated... fishy's is one of the only ones that doesn't drive me up the friggin' wall.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:24 am

Martiansky wrote:You're welcome!

Fishy, I love your avatar! One day when I'm not so computer illiterate maybe I can have a animated one!

Google free animated gif and see what you get--that's how I got this one and the bluebirdpoof one.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:25 am

helitack wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:
helitack wrote: Nope, different agency. Wrong message too, remember lightning is good, fire is our friend.
Forest Service? Actually, my collegue former BLM did the Smokey thing.

Yeah, I know fire is your friend, yet Smokey seems as unstoppable as the energizer bunny.
remember I am NPS, we have just a little different take on things.

Yeah, an actual obligation to take care of the land--or at least the land that draws tourists.

Sandwichman · Post by **Sandwichman** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:27 am

Rian Jackson wrote:
Sandwichman wrote:

And shouldn't that paddle only be used on you today?

darlin' I'm already getting a psychological paddling. i just added another tenth of a point to the breakup drama counter, my friends are at war, and the world is being blown up.

still having a good day though. i think that's mostly 'cause of getting to yell at yellow cab again. but i'm sure i still have some excess energy to lay into this paddle....

In that case may I get your tab today? I will be happy to help you drink your sorrows away at least for an afternoon.

Jason

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:31 am

well, surely you may, sammich.
but i'm going for 'not sorrowful' today, so i think it will have to be celebratory drinking instead.

i refuse to spend today being upset about shit.

Martiansky · Post by **Martiansky** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:32 am

OH COOL! Thanks Fishy!

RJ...sorry I just had to try it!