Confessions.

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 2:18 am

I confess that Susan a certain bartender at a certain place in Sunnyvale, California is a total fucking sweetheart and has Kristine totally smitten. Me too. Damn!

Kristines · Post by **Kristines** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 2:29 am

geekster wrote:I confess that Susan a certain bartender at a certain place in Sunnyvale, California is a total fucking sweetheart and has Kristine totally smitten. Me too. Damn!

I confessed I swooned when she gave me flowers this evening ... sigh.

What a living doll!!

k

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 5:27 am

tonytohono wrote:
stuart wrote:
libraries
buy books from authors (artists)
libraries do not allow you to leave with a xeroxed copy of a book. Bad analogy.
Yes, but you are allowed to check them out freely. If it is any good then you can go buy it, if not you've lost nothing.

My problem is that the record companies market so much shit out there on the strength of one song it's no wonder no one wants to risk buying it. I have been burned so many times I'm sick of it myself.

Bad analogy or not, it was one of the richest pig bands in the world to start the entire parade.

Anyway, the record companies are glad you are in their corner Stuart.

For your information I pay for all of my downloads.

What's your opinion on open source?

Not trying to beat a dead hourse but,

I confess I feel like I'm about to beat a dead horse but I feel that this fact is missing,

If the record companies had foreseen what was coming with technology then they would have spent....no invested in programmers that already posses the applications/talent to make storefront, safe and secure sites for users to download tunes for a small amount of money. That way programmers would not feel any animosity and maybe just maybe they will buy from the site and their friends would buy from the site and so on and so on.......

Hey wait a minute……doesn’t Apple do that?

The executives....so called, were so greedy they mooched off the musicians so much that they forgot they were in a business and not a leaching a rock star dry bill collector.

Maybe it’s the greedy musicians taking their rage out on users/fans because they don’t have enough millions to feed their nasty habits and beyond their needs living needs.

Donita · Post by **Donita** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:18 am

I confess I watched my first autopsy video late last night on TV.
I confess I watched 25% of it through my fingers that were covering my face.
I confess some of it gave me the heebie-jeebies and I slept with the night light on.

I confess that even though I know there's no BoogeyMan, I get afraid of the dark after watching scary, creepy, gross things on TV.

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 11:09 am

I saw one too..it was hard to get through it. Interesting how some folks seem to be immune to these things. I imagine war is like this to some extent.

Donita · Post by **Donita** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 12:28 pm

I confess that sometimes when people dare me to do something or say DO IT, DO IT, DO IT, I end up doing it.

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 12:32 pm

cowboyangel wrote:I saw one too..it was hard to get through it. Interesting how some folks seem to be immune to these things. I imagine war is like this to some extent.

No, cowboy, I think they are completely different. Combat is probably what caused humans to be so successful as a species. It reduced populations and selected out stronger individuals and individuals with stronger immune systems. Imagine combat in ancient Roman times. 60,000 killed in a single battle on a single day ... you didn't walk off the field of battle without an injury of some sort. You were pretty much guaranteed an infection of some sort.

When a culture becomes short of some resource, it fights. This reduces the pressure on the resource and might obtain more of it. Negotiating would probably result in more pressure on scarce resources and weaker genetic stock making them ripe to be wiped out by some invading "barbarians" who will kill their males, plunder their riches and pass their genes to the females.

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 5:14 pm

sure thing geeko, exceptin if the army is an army of the moron king...I don't want those genes and I think many would agree with me.

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 5:15 pm

BTW how did the moron king manage to loose 9 billion in Iraq?????? Hmmmmm Social Security must be the problem.......

Isotopia · Post by **Isotopia** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:10 pm

Combat is probably what caused humans to be so successful as a species.

Thumbs.

Thumbs, Germs and Steel.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... 6?v=glance

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:04 pm

cowboyangel wrote:BTW how did the moron king manage to loose 9 billion in Iraq?????? Hmmmmm Social Security must be the problem.......

Did you actually READ the rebuttal comments? It wasn't "lost", it simply wasnt accounted for. It was decided that it was in the best interest to pay out the money before the accounting system was in place. It was decided that it was better to pay the department guards, for example, than to not pay them and have even more angry armed young men running around. Also, in the initial stages, many families were completely dependent on these payments to survive. Simply cutting off payment until an accounting system was in place would have been cruel, stupid, and something only some anal retentive bureaucrat would consider.

Ranger Genius · Post by **Ranger Genius** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:10 pm

How is "unaccounted for" different from "lost?" And doesn't it by definition tell us that we don't necessarily know it went where they're telling us it went?

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:23 pm

"Lost" would imply that it never went to its intended destination. Not written down on the books means just that. Accounted for in the finance sense is what I am talking about.

For example, when forces first arrived, a high priority was getting basic services back up and running. That is water and power. Large sums of cash were taken by US forces to power plants, water works, etc. People were told there was work and pay if they would show up. They showed up and were given a cash payment on the spot. Exactly who got how much was not entered into any computer anywhere because there wasn't any electricity to run them.

There is also a much more important aspect to it. The economy at that moment it time was pretty much non-existant. There was a fiat currency with no government to back it up. People needed to buy food, water, etc. A mechanism for injecting a hard currency into the economy that would be accepted for goods had to be established and that was it.

$9B wasn't lost ... 100% of it was dumped into the Iraqi economy exactly as intended. What can not be known is exactly who got how much of what and at this point it is moot anyway. It doesn't matter. It served it's purpose at the time. There are many aspect such as psychological, general economic aspects, and simply paying people for work that they actually did so they wouldn't feel treated as slave labor.

To expect a complete accounting system to be up and running ahead of an invasion and be ready and waiting for all payments to be properly tallied and balanced is just silly. In war you put people that you think you can trust in positions of great responsibility and they have the power to do things such as distribute cash that are quite unlike a normal peacetime economy. Doing anything else would have resulted in an even greater disaster for the Iraqi people.

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:38 pm

You can't go into a country that has had it's central bank literally physically looted by the former leadership, has no operating banking system, have people whose jobs have evaporated ... and expect to get some kind of economy up and running in a few weeks in an environment where there is no infrastructure and abide by standard American generally accepted accounting procedures. Not when your goal is to infuse the money into the economy. You don't really care how it leaks out and you just do your best to try to see that nobody grabs a big chunk of it unfairly but frankly, I would not be the slightest bit surprised if someone did and it should not come as a shock to anyone. That is a risk that was probably recognized and accepted since the alternative would have been to delay payments and prolong suffering and hardship for millions of people. Fuck it, that they can't say exactly who got every penny of that money doesn't bother me. I bet they CAN say in broader terms where it went. $X thousand was destributed at <blah> power plant on <blah> date. $Y thousand given to informants. But exactly who got how much? Nobody is ever going to know so you might as well not worry about it.

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:48 pm

Here's where your $9Billion went:

Lydia Love · Post by **Lydia Love** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:33 pm

I confess that I don't read any of the political threads on any board.

**ahem**

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:42 pm

Lydia Love wrote:I confess that I don't read any of the political threads on any board.

**ahem**

I confess that is a very good thing.

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:58 pm

ya don't know what yor missun...like
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20 ... scheer1221

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 11:30 pm

I've been thinking about it... why the fuck should I confess to anything? Guilt is like money, I don't worry about not having it unless I start spending it.

Rob the Wop · Post by **Rob the Wop** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 11:38 pm

I confess I am evil, but fun occasionally.

I confess that I wouldn't have it any other way.

I further confess that I think electric blankets are an absolutely divine inspiration.

I confess I deliberately made someone uncomfortable at the Caco meeting tonight. When a new couple came to the meeting, we described the upcoming 'stripper bingo' on Valentine's day. We dress in our finest attire, formal suits and evening gowns, and have dinner at a strip club. We then are passed Bingo sheets with squares marked, "curtains match carpet", "pierced clit", "nipples lick", "stilletto heels", etc. When the girl does her thing- you yell out 'Bingo!' and get a prize.

Immediately after describing the event, the gal in the couple gave a disgusting look and said, "No. We won't be going to THAT event. Can you do that somewhere else, like make something for a grocery store or something?"
To which I replied, "Well you can't exploit women in a grocery store, so where's the fun in that?"

Please note that I get points for not saying, "And it's much more fun to win bingo when strippers are crying..."

RingO'Fire · Post by **RingO'Fire** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:31 am

Lydia Love wrote:I confess that I don't read any of the political threads on any board.

**ahem**

I confess, I'm with Lydia on this one. I personally refer to one thread in question as "The Politics Out-the-Ass Thread." I did read it a few times before the election, but after a while, it's just the same-old-same-old.

**yawn**

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:50 am

I confess I don't read the most recent drivel on the politics thread that I created oh-so-long-ago but I have been tempted lately due to the recent successful elections... yet, I digress.

I confess I wish I were as evil as Rob, and had half as much fun as he does.

I confess I am proud that my country gave common Iraqi citizens the opporunity for self-rule.

I confess I submitted a TOS query regarding CowboyAngel's commercial avatar.

I confess I hope he has the good sense to remove it, thereby salvaging any minute amount of credibility he ever possessed.

I confess I don't give a Good God Damn about what DVD or CowboyAngel have to think or say... about anything, which actually means in some small way I actually believe they have the ability to think. (foolish me)

I confess writing and posting this has made my blood pressure rise, and that is why (rising blood pressure) I don't post all that much anymore.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:41 am

Simply Joel wrote:I confess I don't read the most recent drivel on the politics thread that I created oh-so-long-ago but I have been tempted lately due to the recent successful elections... yet, I digress.

I confess I wish I were as evil as Rob, and had half as much fun as he does.

I confess I am proud that my country gave common Iraqi citizens the opporunity for self-rule.

I confess I submitted a TOS query regarding CowboyAngel's commercial avatar.

I confess I hope he has the good sense to remove it, thereby salvaging any minute amount of credibility he ever possessed.

I confess I don't give a Good God Damn about what DVD or CowboyAngel have to think or say... about anything, which actually means in some small way I actually believe they have the ability to think. (foolish me)

I confess writing and posting this has made my blood pressure rise, and that is why (rising blood pressure) I don't post all that much anymore.

I confess it cracks me up hearing about your blood preasure rising over petty things.
I confess any high blood preasure raised over some of the dumbist shit cracks me up.
I confess I dont give a fuck about who thinks I'm credible or not.
I confess I'm sucsessfull at what I do no mater how ones blood boils or not.

stuart · Post by **stuart** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:21 am

I confess I shouldn't but I can't help myself

If the record companies had foreseen what was coming with technology then they would have spent....no invested in programmers that already posses the applications/talent to make storefront, safe and secure sites for users to download tunes for a small amount of money. That way programmers would not feel any animosity and maybe just maybe they will buy from the site and their friends would buy from the site and so on and so on.......

so, what I see you saying here is that because you think the record companies were nasty and had no foresight you feel justified in taking money out of recording artists pockets. What the fuck does computer geek animosity have to do with theft?

The executives....so called, were so greedy they mooched off the musicians so much that they forgot they were in a business and not a leaching a rock star dry bill collector.

it's a business. Let's say you go out and have a nice dinner. While taking a trip to a restroom you pass by a window and notice the owner of the place getting in to his $180,000 sports car. Do you now feel justified doing a dine and dodge, stiffing all the service staff in the process, because you feel the proprieter has too much money?

Maybe it’s the greedy musicians taking their rage out on users/fans because they don’t have enough millions to feed their nasty habits and beyond their needs living needs.

as soon as an artist makes enough dough to live above the poverty line you advocate that their work should be public domain?

You can piss and moan all you want about the music industry. You aint gonna find many people more agitated by them than me. Still, I am not gonna take $2 bucks out of Brian Eno's pocket because I think the parent company of his label is run by assholes. Eno deserves my money if I want to listen to his kick ass music. He does not deserve some bullshit rationalization for theft.

stuart · Post by **stuart** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:37 pm

I confess that when I first read Sam's holy war comment I thought he might be referring to me. I confess that as I review this post I find it still could be the case.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:44 pm

I confess that when I read Stuart's confeesssion just above I got real confused--I thought he was talking about Woodrow.

I confess that while I don't have the background to properly review much of Stuart's comments, it doesn't set of my bs alarm the way psuedointellectual crap might.

bullD · Post by **bullD** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:52 pm

I confess to nothing today. except that I think that this superglue I'm working with has me feeling a bit swervy.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:32 pm

No time to answer the others but I have time to answer this one:

stuart wrote: You can piss and moan all you want about the music industry. You aint gonna find many people more agitated by them than me. Still, I am not gonna take $2 bucks out of Brian Eno's pocket because I think the parent company of his label is run by assholes. Eno deserves my money if I want to listen to his kick ass music. He does not deserve some bullshit rationalization for theft.

Well believe you me I can be just as and more agitated than you. I was raised in the industry.

As far as the thefty part, I subscribe to the limp biscuit and Rage philosophy, "Put it on Napster and they will buy".

And you know what? It worked.

I confess that that will annoy a few because they may not have tried it the right way.

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:48 pm

I confess I had not bought any music in years before Napster happened. Then I started listening to, and buying, music again after a few years of just being too damned busy to care. Yeah, I downloaded a lot of it. But you know what? Almost 100% of it was music that I had already bought and paid for at some point in the past anyway. I basically compiled a directory of my favorite cuts from my own record library.

I say yay for sharing. It's no wose than asking someone to give you a cassette of their new album like we did 20 years ago as far as I am concerned.

stuart · Post by **stuart** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:07 pm

I find it odd to see a self described libertarian advocating a somewhat marxist approach to intellectual property.

Almost 100% of it was music that I had already bought and paid for at some point in the past anyway.

hey, last time I went shopping, almost 100% of what I left the store with I paid for.

Confessions.

I confess I wish I didn't feel compelled to care...

Re: I confess I wish I didn't feel compelled to care...