David Best & the San Rafael Temple

Tiara · Post by **Tiara** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:47 pm

What I understand happened is the woman came unglued and said things like "I dont want 'those people' on my property" or something to that effect.

That's some pretty inflammatory language. Do you have a cite or a source for your "understanding"?

Patience · Post by **Patience** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 5:16 pm

It's not just the property owner's issues at stake here, either. From the source you cited:

Multiple violations involving, height, setbacks, a lack of permission from the fire marshal and no permit, among other things, garnered a "red tag" stop-work order Monday from Code Enforcement Manager Lynda Ferris.

Sounds to me like the responsiblity for what happened here rests squarely in the Best camp.

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:02 pm

The more I reflect on this event the more I would agree with Susan from my interview. We build temporary structures anyway. Fire is only one way to transition them. David brought a beautiful thing out into a hidden, stressed and vital part of our community with wonderful intentions- the end result was more press than anyone could have imagined. Those good intentions strengthen our Burningman community on the whole. This is a success.

http://www.brightpathvideo.com/Burningman.htm

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 10:39 pm

Patience wrote:It's not just the property owner's issues at stake here, either. From the source you cited:

Multiple violations involving, height, setbacks, a lack of permission from the fire marshal and no permit, among other things, garnered a "red tag" stop-work order Monday from Code Enforcement Manager Lynda Ferris.
Sounds to me like the responsiblity for what happened here rests squarely in the Best camp.

Close. It is squarely with the curator of the art display that this was a part of. They told David they had the proper permission. David believed them. As far as I know, nobody had any idea that the woman who owns the business at the market didn't have authority to give permission. The curator thought they had proper permission and didn't need permits. They told David that everything was fine and to go ahead.

A lot of lessons learned.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 10:51 am

cowboyangel wrote:The more I reflect on this event the more I would agree with Susan from my interview. We build temporary structures anyway. Fire is only one way to transition them. David brought a beautiful thing out into a hidden, stressed and vital part of our community with wonderful intentions- the end result was more press than anyone could have imagined. Those good intentions strengthen our Burningman community on the whole. This is a success.

http://www.brightpathvideo.com/Burningman.htm

Brave Combo wrote:Nothing is permanent
Nothing will last forever
Nothing is permanent

Rain falls and turns to mud
And then it dries and blows away, away
Grass grows in yards of green
And then it gets too tall and causes worry

Need leads to satsified
Which doesn't last so long and well
You know

All things, always change
And change is fast if it's not slow

Nothing is permanent
Nothing will last forever
Nothing is permanent

Where was the neighborhood
Before they marked off all the streets and roads
Who came to live here first
And does it really matter
I don't think so
New stores of new design
Look old and dated long before they fall
Buildings of any sort are just lean-tos and that's all

Nothing is permanent
Nothing will last forever
Nothing is permanent

b00m3rang · Post by **b00m3rang** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 11:42 am

geekster wrote:Close. It is squarely with the curator of the art display that this was a part of. They told David they had the proper permission. David believed them.

You've got to be careful with that. I provided a sound system for a forest party, for which I was assured permits were acquired, and I was convicted of "contracting services on government property without a permit".

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 9:43 pm

cowboyangel wrote:http://www.brightpathvideo.com/Local_News.htm
here's the link to my website and the interview I just shot with David. He says to send a special message of love to all you guys at eplaya, gee this guy is beautiful!
pics in another post.

gizray · Post by **gizray** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:43 am

"I've done this, I've done that...."

David did what he did, did what he does and turned off folks who didn't get it.

Don't question David, if you question his intentions, you don't know where his heart is, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Sounds harsh, but lets discuss, ehh?

I don't know David either, but I KNOW (i think i know) where his heart is. I feel his heart and I know what that means.....

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 4:11 am

gizray wrote:"I've done this, I've done that...."

David did what he did, did what he does and turned off folks who didn't get it.

Don't question David, if you question his intentions, you don't know where his heart is, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Sounds harsh, but lets discuss, ehh?

I don't know David either, but I KNOW (i think i know) where his heart is. I feel his heart and I know what that means.....

You know what? I like this guy.

(not because of his avatar. ........well....I like the avatar.)

Discosybil · Post by **Discosybil** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:58 am

That was a great interview. Please check my e-mail........my heart jumped when I saw your video. I know Reno is not Marin but we're moving forward and it might be worth sending your video to our Mayor.

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:37 pm

I just had the thought that maybe they could leave just the statue, a bench and a table. No structure. Well, maybe a short wall, say 6 feet high. Too late now, though, I am guessing.

bullD · Post by **bullD** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:39 pm

I was just down there and it was as if nothing was ever there.

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:58 pm

don't worry, we'll be back in some way shape or form. This got more press than Arnold did last week.

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:04 pm

bullD wrote:I was just down there and it was as if nothing was ever there.

And that in itself ought to impress some people with the city govt.

DaMan · Post by **DaMan** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:20 pm

When it comes down to it very few people know all of the facts

This non profit art group wanted to have various artists place their art on city owned property None of the artwork was ever supposed to be placed on private property

David's work was originally designed to be placed in Pickleweed park for all to enjoy

Davids work (along with a few other pieces presented to the city council) was not approved to be built on city property (the park or anywhere else) from the get go due to various city, building and fire codes

Also, the fact that it was to be burned down when the community tired of it did not thril the city

The art group scrambled to find a different location for this piece and that is how it ended up in this mess The true blame lies with the head of the art group that originally commissioned this piece

Im sure after seeing the other pieces throughout the city, the property owners would have been more than happy to have any of the pieces on their property The other pieces were of a much smaller scale (not thirty feet tall) and didnt involve open flame or burning anything down

Also, this chapel was not originally titled the Chapel of the Laborer That was just what it was titled after the fact so that it would drum up as much publcity as possible for David Best

The request was also put out for anyone to volunteer their property for this sculpture to be moved onto There were no takers Enough said

David Best & the San Rafael Temple

Truth