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diane o'thirst · Post by **diane o'thirst** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:40 pm

Just saw the poster tonight when I went to the movies...

Tim Burton, Danny Elfman, Johnny Depp, Christopher Lee, loud stripes, weird curly-cues, THIS IS GONNA BE RIGHTEOUS!

CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY.

Tim specifically told the scriptwriter to NOT see the original film, go straight to the book. Danny Elfman is doing the Oompa-Loompa voices and singing the Oompa-Loompa songs. I can't fuckin' wait to see how he does the Chocolate Room. 

Word has it that Nicholas Cage and Michael Keaton were considered for the role of Wonka but I know Johnny will sucketh not.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 11:28 pm

Depp is awesome in everything. But what I'm really interested in checking out is ocean's 12.

GuinivereElise · Post by **GuinivereElise** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:26 am

diane o'thirst wrote:Just saw the poster tonight when I went to the movies...

Tim Burton, Danny Elfman, Johnny Depp, Christopher Lee, loud stripes, weird curly-cues, THIS IS GONNA BE RIGHTEOUS!

CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY.

Tim specifically told the scriptwriter to NOT see the original film, go straight to the book. Danny Elfman is doing the Oompa-Loompa voices and singing the Oompa-Loompa songs. I can't fuckin' wait to see how he does the Chocolate Room. 

Word has it that Nicholas Cage and Michael Keaton were considered for the role of Wonka but I know Johnny will sucketh not.

I've been WAITING very impatiently for this to come out..... Johnny is faboo...

Donita · Post by **Donita** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:26 pm

I loved the original.

Who's playing Charlie? And I wonder who will play the
naughty bratty kids this time... I just wanted to pulverize
the spoiled red-headed girl who wanted "daddy" to give her everything.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:33 pm

Straight from the book ought to be interesting. Dahl was so strange and the original movie was a disappointment to me. It's a good team. For hollywood. (Sorry Stu.)

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:42 pm

Some word on the cast
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367594/

Not much on the official site
http://chocolatefactorymovie.warnerbros.com/#

Burton fan site
http://www.timburtoncollective.com/charlie.html

Cast photos
http://movieweb.com/news/news.php?id=5884

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:43 pm

stop me before I google again. . .

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:37 am

came up in another thread so

bump

Sandwichman · Post by **Sandwichman** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:21 pm

The trailer just had me giggling in the office fairly loudly.

http://chocolatefactorymovie.warnerbros.com

lothien · Post by **lothien** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 5:34 pm

i hear johnny plays him creepy...

now, admittedly, i would watch johnny wash dishes..
but
i love roald dahl's stuff, and i look forward to see the result of the dahl/burton/depp/elfman combo...

diane o'thirst · Post by **diane o'thirst** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 5:55 pm

Good! Wonka's supposed to be kind of creepy. Wilder really brought an off-the-hook weirdness to the role and he did a great job of carrying it, but I know Depp was dead-on casting. I have every confidence in him

I saw some production stills on the Yahoo!Movies website for it, it's totally Burtonized. Curlycues and contrasting stripes all over the place, poster previews, he's even got a cameo of the Nightmare Before Christmas hill in the Chocolate Room.

The problem with the '70s movie was that it looked so....well, Seventies. The kid who played Charlie Bucket — he wasn't acting, that was just him. He didn't look convincing as a kid from a dirt-poor family. Veruca looks like a little bitch, Mike Teevee looks like your typical video games punk. It looks like Augustus Gloop is going to be dizz-gustingly piggish, too.

Can't wait to hear Elfman's Oompah Loompahs, either

GuinivereElise · Post by **GuinivereElise** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 8:43 pm

heard that they trained a bunch of fucking squirrels for the nut room.... holy sheeit!

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:09 pm

That's what always got me from the book - Wonka was paycho... Wonkers, as it were... to play him even remotely normal, well... Gene WIlder had him down *so* good, I can't wait to see JD in it.

Remember, it was WOnka who doidn't care if the kids dies on their grand tour - as far as he was concerned, they got any harm coming to them. ANd shot the elevator through the *side* or *roof* of the building...

The only thing that confuses me... Who is Veruca? It was Veronica. Should keep the names right, at least!!

BBS

diane o'thirst · Post by **diane o'thirst** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 12:02 pm

Nope, it's Veruca. As in "a wart." In the book, Wonka made a kind-of sideways diss at her for that when she first came up and introduced herself.

The poster describes Wonka as "semi-sweet and a little nuts."

Force · Post by **Force** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:15 pm

Agreed, Depp is an incredible actor, he even made the weird-ass "Dead man" enjoyable. He should soar in this movie, so the only problems I see are;

Expecting too much from him

and

finding a kid who can play the spoiled brat without making me want to spontaneously combust.

With Burton directing, all should be well.

Anyone up for signing a petition to get Hollywood to remake "Hellboy" and let Burton direct this time so it can be done right? Not that it sucked or anything, but I just think it would have been better with Burton's touch. As it is, it was a good hollywood action/special effects pic.

But goddammit, if you're spending millions, spend an extra million or two and make a fucking masterpiece, right?

robotland · Post by **robotland** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:33 am

...but keep Perlman.

Ranger Genius · Post by **Ranger Genius** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:26 am

robotland wrote:...but keep Perlman.

Well, obviously. I'm not sure I would like to see Hellboy as a Burton film. I'm a huge Tim Burton fan, but I'm also a huge fan of Hellboy. I've never liked anything else that Guillermo del Toro has done, nore do I generally like comic book films, but really enjoyed that particular film. It's amazing what was done with camera positions and shot composition to make the movie FEEL like a well-illustrated graphic novel, without resorting to cartoon cutscenes a la Sin City or Tank Girl. The sequel is already in pre-production, with del Toro attached as director again.

My toes are twitching in anticipation of the THHGTTG film to be released in the 29th of this month. Don't panic. I'm tempted to have myself cryogenically frozen for the next eleven days so I don't have to wait.

robotland · Post by **robotland** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:58 am

At the rate (GOOD) sci-fi books are being made into (DECENT) movies, I may yet live long enough to see @#! RINGWORLD......

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:14 am

I'd settle for discworld. . .

btw--any thoughts on Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy?

robotland · Post by **robotland** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:18 am

I thought the books were a hoot.....He also wrote a book about endangered species called Last Chance to See that was both funny and touching....When I was a kid I used to eat, breathe and sleep scifi stuff- I saw Star Wars seventy-something times, IN THE THEATER...(Nerdboy was fourteen, had no girlfriend, and nothing better to do all Summer.) Nowadays I don't hover over the making-of magazines and such like I used to, although I've always been into the backstage stuff and still make the odd robot or spacesuit for art fairs. Haven't kept up on the making of Hitchhiker's for fear of being let down. I'm a tough sell on stuff I've already visualized on my own, and I was REALLY worried about Lord Of The Rings, but thought Jackson and Co. pulled that off relatively well. The little glimpses of Hitchhiker's look interesting, and it helps that it's a comedy. Helps to start with A-Grade material, although that's not ALWAYS a guarantee!

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:50 am

I'm a little concerned that when I saw a commercial on the indiot box, someone was introducing himself as Zaphoid Beeblebrox. Only one head and two hands.

Only saw it once and wasn't paying close attention, so I can't swear to it.

Yargh.

Ranger Genius · Post by **Ranger Genius** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:05 pm

Zaphod's second head is UNDER his first one...so he pops it up out of his collar at some point. DNA unabashedly made major plot and character changes between renditions all the time, so not much criticism is valid there. I think they've deliberately hidden zaphod's third arm from view in the trailers, to keep it a surprise. You'll notice you can never see the side of his torso under his right arm in the trailers.

edit: there's a character picture on the movie web page wich looks an awful lot like only two arms. But is that the edge of a boxing glove, possibly one on a third arm, just visible behind his hip? The third arm was for zero-g boxing, wasn't it?

Last Real Burner · Post by **Last Real Burner** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:39 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:someone was introducing himself as Zaphoid Beeblebrox. Only one head and two hands.

I saw the sameone but I recall him introducing himself while holding a glass of wine in one hand, a cigerette in the other while reaching out to shake his hand with another. Only saw it once and wasn't paying close attention, so I can't swear to it.

continually,
the rebbi
Spiritual Guide for the Maidenform Bra

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:39 pm

I know, I"m hyperliterate and prefer teh printed word to celluloid. But still--there are people out there who don't know about the extra head and arm?

Oh well. We'll see what happens. THis could make better sence that some damn puppet on his shoulder for tow hours.

diane o'thirst · Post by **diane o'thirst** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:45 pm

Unless they're doing the extra head and arm in CG, in post-production...

Last Real Burner · Post by **Last Real Burner** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:09 pm

Have you seen the making of "The Chronicles of Narnia" ? Now that is the wait for movie if there ever was one. You think Paul Jackson and LOR movies were awesome this will blow that back to middle-earth.

Here is the link

http://books.narnia.com/

lost and foundly,
the rebbi
Last Minister of the First Church of Minscule Knowledge

diane o'thirst · Post by **diane o'thirst** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:35 pm

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Oh.

My.

Sweet.

Tap-Dancin'.

Gold-Plated.

Ghod.

With a cherry on top.

I was contemplating selling my Disney stock, the only stock I have. I Am Hanging Onto That Sucker For Dear Life.

This will definitely make up for the past couple years. No wonder Disney's been so quiet!

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:55 pm

Wow...

I mean...

like...

Wow.

I am just way too awestruck to say anything else.

That little bit o' news just made this formerly rat of a Monday
a hell of a lot better.

Immensely better.

Gonna dance all the way home, now!!

robotland · Post by **robotland** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:49 am

Just seeing the word WETA on that Narnia site is comforting.

(WETA workshop did all of the FX for LOTR....FYI, A "weta" is like a really, really big New Zealand cricket.)

joel the ornery · Post by **joel the ornery** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:58 am

http://weta.boarsnest.net/index.htm

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