The Bar

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:01 am

My brother e-mailed me that they had the teacher conference about my nieces Iowa basic skills test. She's in third grade and she scored in the 99th percentile, but her school work doesn't reflect that,.. she isn't working up to her ability.... My brother said " sound familiar " I had to laugh, I heard that my whole life

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:03 am

Me too.

Hmmm, it can be hard to type when the cat is meadering across your lap

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:05 am

that's supposed to say meandering

Elemental666 · Post by **Elemental666** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:07 am

In highschool you allowed yourself to fail.

Now its time to allow yourself to succeed. If you don't challenge yourself, how do you grow?

*gets big excited eyes!!!*

Looky what I found!

*produces a case of red bull and a bottle o sky*

Who's with me?!!!!!!

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:09 am

With my inability to spell I hadn't noticed

My niece is a drugged kid success story she's on Ritalin, and likes school a lot more and feels a lot better about herself and her abilities.

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:14 am

as much as I'd like to El ... the cat is calling me to bed. Gosh, it's already 3:30 here.

Yea, my mom wants to put me on drugs. But what she doesn't realize is that they won't be the right ones. She refuses to learn about ADD, so she just wants to put me on anti depressants or anti anxiety drugs like she's been on before. Which won't work because I'm more frustrated than depressed or anxious.

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:16 am

Plus, my physican can't give me ADD drugs. We've already talked about it. And finding another therapist, is to daunting for me right now. Especially, since I'm not sure how long I'll have insurance.

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:18 am

Rock stars? I need to get to sleep soon.
* takes last sip of coffee *
I need to heading out, you all have a good night, I'll likely see you tomorrow.

I was on antidepressants a few years ago, they only sort of worked, I mean I was in the middle of a divorce it was a depressing time,.. and it was suppose to be.

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:20 am

yea, I need to go too. Before it gets any later.

Sorry to leave you all by your lonesome El. Nice to meet you. Lock up when you leave.

Good night Z

and good night El.

Elemental666 · Post by **Elemental666** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:33 am

My elementry school tried to convince my mom I had ADD and tried to put me on ritalen (sp?). My mom's response was, before you consider my son's attention span a liability and put him on drugs, try challenging him more. You see, I was finishing my homework in class and breezing through most of my assignments, leaving me with nothing to do while the rest of the class caught up to me. What do children with idle minds do? They entertain themselves. My problem wasn't my attention span, it was my method of self entertainment. I think a large number of people classified with ADD are in this boat. They are super intellegent and highly creative and without proper motivation they tend to wonder away from the subject at hand in search of something more interesting. So I taught myself to look at things from different points of view and give myself personal reward for drudging through the mundane. I've never thought that drugs were a good answer for attention disorders, it turns you into a mindless drone. A better answer is to evaluate what you are doing now and find out what it is that bores you so. Then replace that aspect with something more productive and more interesting.

Its like Z said, about being your own worst enemy. There is no need for that. Find out what it is that is holding you back and go to work on it.

*thinks these smoothies are having an extacy effect on him*

*mixes up and red bull n vodka and dangles it in front of Z*

*looks around and notices he's all alone*

*downs the drink and locks up*

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:00 am

It's coffee time!

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:18 am

It IS coffee time... got mine right here... but unfortunately I have a job (heavy equipment/cranes) that allows NO Baileys or Kahlua in my morning coffee... THAT'S a rough deal... Oh the pain...

There's that flavor syrup stuff... tastes like ... well, not like Baileys...

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:50 am

Well cap'n, we wouldn't want you dropping anything heavy on someone.

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:52 am

Oh hell, I almost never do that.

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:57 am

Coffee me, the stronger the better.

gigglesnort · Post by **gigglesnort** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:28 am

blglfmrph. blah. {pours extrastrength coffee into heli's mug}

gigglesnort · Post by **gigglesnort** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:51 am

{rummages in her marypoppins bag and comes out with a bamboo cane pole, baits the hook, and tosses it into the stream absentmindedly}

Ranger Genius · Post by **Ranger Genius** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:02 am

Stream? There's a stream in here? Are there any crawdads in it?

GuinivereElise · Post by **GuinivereElise** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:12 am

popping my head in for a quick Hello! and some coffee...

hey all...

I'm off to the shower now!

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:17 am

blueniteowl wrote:I'm not qualified for anything.

Can we examine that a little?

blueniteowl wrote:I've wasted the last five years doing nothing. I'm probably going to waste the next five years. I feel guilty and ashamed. <snip>
I'm just frustrated and very unhappy.

Um, you remind me of my 20s and 30s and major depression and the whole horrible shebang. I'd like to say that things do change. I don't have much advise without knowing more of the specifics. Oddly enough my first bought with depression was brought on by a broken arm, which is not unheard of. May or may not be an issue with your position right now--I'm trying not to project toooooo much. You probalbaly have a bunch of skills and interests that could be packaged into something more. Retail is horrible, not only don't you earn enough money, but a lot of people feel they have the right to treat you as trash. And to some extent you have to smile and take it. Emotional Labor its' called. Don't fool yourself that it isn't labor, either. Just try to think of the wine job as a chance to earn some cash and not be so pressed while you contemplate your next move.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:18 am

blueniteowl wrote:and no offense jaydub, but I am sooooo sick of people telling me that. Because there is no guarantee, and just saying "it'll get better" doesn't help me at all. I just makes me feel worse.

Ooooops. Sorry.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:21 am

Zulegoona wrote: That kicking myself about all my short comings, inability's, and things that didn't work out as planed in the past, gets old and it doesn't do anything to help motivate me,

So very, very true.

Learning to be kind to yourself is one of the biggest steps towards happiness.

gigglesnort · Post by **gigglesnort** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:23 am

{kicks her arse offa the tree stump, props her cane pole up with some heavy rocks, and splashes off down the stream}

Oooh, chilly water. See ya'll in a bit.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:26 am

blueniteowl wrote:Ahh, gee thanks El. *smooches*

Z, Something like that scares me though with no prior experience. Because I only have limited experience with photoshop and illustrator. I haven't used either program since '01. And I don't think I could handle that kind of pressure, being uncomfortable with my own abilities. I'm not good with deadlines.

I hate deadlines too. One of the things I've realized is that minorly psychotic (in a very loose sence) people have this advantage because one in your position would go to the interview and bluff it. And possibly get the job. Remember in a lot of places, it might be better to get a person who fits the office and train them in the skills than to get someone who has the skills but is alwyas gonna be a misfit personality. Would making a promise to yourself to start taking classes that will go towards developing your skills and interests make the wine job better--make it less like treading water?

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:28 am

blueniteowl wrote:as much as I'd like to El ... the cat is calling me to bed. Gosh, it's already 3:30 here.

Yea, my mom wants to put me on drugs. But what she doesn't realize is that they won't be the right ones. She refuses to learn about ADD, so she just wants to put me on anti depressants or anti anxiety drugs like she's been on before. Which won't work because I'm more frustrated than depressed or anxious.

Um you are over 18 and a doctor would be prescribing. If you're mom is willing to support drug therepy maybe you can have the doctor explain that this ist he appropriate treatment.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:30 am

sputnik wrote:It's coffee time!

INdeed! *fishy gets herself LARGE mug of Kenya AA* Thanks, sput and sorry I missed you last week. *fishy coughs a bit* Put your ears next to my chest--no longer enough clicks and whistles to qualify as Flipper.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:32 am

Blue--sorry for all the unsolicited advise. A lot of it comes from my experience. I had to learn the hard way, but sometimes I regret the years of spinning wheels. Try and take it as affection and soothing my own demons, not as coming down on you.

Please.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:33 am

Ranger Genius wrote:Stream? There's a stream in here?

Well Duh. *fishy splashes RG with water*

Ranger Genius · Post by **Ranger Genius** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:05 am

But are there any frelling crawdads in it?

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:08 am

We got effin crawdads and we got frellin crayfish. But for some reason, no frellin crawdads.