The Bar

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:47 pm

Ooops, it was only 112 degrees. I just went out and took a ground temp, 137. The "official" air temperature at heli's Grapevine Ranger Station Ranch and Resort is now 104 degrees, humidity a whopping 3 percent. Too damn humid.
Rian, all is good. Been working on clothing for the playa and playing with our new laptop.

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:48 pm

Catch ya all later.

buckethead alien · Post by **buckethead alien** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:50 pm

R-Jack, you know you have a standing invitation.

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:04 pm

Thanks BuckIt! Bye, Sput!

What have ya been making, Heli? I just made a bunch of crap, and got to wear the orange chaps and the silver skirt that you probably saw pics of from the stitch and bitch last month.

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:04 pm

Hey, Bucket, we can raise the gifting issue here, if someone hasn't already. I haven't looked around much to see what's new. I am kinda with those that want to discourage the trinkets.

buckethead alien · Post by **buckethead alien** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:07 pm

I took a crack at it in the Philosophy of Burning Man forum (I think that's what it's called.) I will go look for the link. It's funny, I feel like Rip Van Winkle; I woke up one day and people were giving away crap left and right.

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:09 pm

Been working on Interrogation Uniforms. mmmmmmmmmm nice.
Here is a gift beer Geekster.

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:10 pm

I just want to scream LEAVE YOUR FUCKING CRAP AT HOME!!!

I mean, handmade art is one thing... but I'm also on a campaign to have less meaningless stuff in my life. Gift experience. For the love of god and all that is (un)holy!

buckethead alien · Post by **buckethead alien** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:10 pm

Here it is for what it's worth.

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:26 pm

Oh dear. I'm a pedant, BuckIt.

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:36 pm

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:36 pm

Thanks for the beer!

I will check it out in a few, I am headed over to home despot to get some more pieces parts. I don't like the trinket giving. I don't mind receiving a gift, but it should the the result of an interaction between people, not the purpose of it. Some just handing out things to someone just happening to walk by isn't what I think it should be about. One of the nicest "trinkets" I got, though, was the result of mistaken identity. I saw someone there that I thought I knew and hadn't seen in a long time. It turns out it was someone else but we sat and talked about life and stuff. She gave me a necklace she had made herself. Nothing fancy, plastic beads on monofiliment fishing line. I haven't taken it off since.

The gift came as a result of our interaction and is a symbol of a bond, however fleeting, that we shared for a few minutes of talking in the cafe. The gift wasn't the purpose of the interaction. Even a trinket can be special if there is something of the giver attached to it in some way. If someone walks up on the street and hands me a trinket, will I remember who gave it to me in three hours time? If someone walks over and engages in conversation, maybe shares some stories or a meal or drink before continuing on their way, yeah, I think maybe the trinket will be more memorable because it serves as a reminder of the person.

If you haven't taken the time to talk to me for 5 minutes or even tell me your name ... please, don't give me the trinket. Save it for when you have a more worthwhile interaction with someone.

stuart · Post by **stuart** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:38 pm

I see one libertarian advocating a restriction of the free market on the playa.

tsk tsk.

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:41 pm

Huh?

Fuck it, lets drink.

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:43 pm

Oh, anyone has the right to offer anything to anyone. I don't have to accept it, though. In fact, you just gave me an idea. Maybe if someone is just handing crap out to people walking by and tries to hand me one, maybe I will make them earn that giving. Maybe I will require a little more interaction before I accept it because the other side of the story is ... if you are just standing there handing things out, are you going to remember who you gave them to in 10 minutes time? Both sides of the transaction should be meaningful. If someone is just handing out things to passersby and the transactions have no meaning and aren't remembered than the gift, no matter how much it cost in mony is really meaningless. Why would I want to collect meaningless gifts? It has almost become a parody of giving by over-giving.

joel the ornery · Post by **joel the ornery** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:46 pm

for the continued benevolence of a supreme being.... give me a beer, please.

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:48 pm

Jeeebus H Fenimore, lets talk about fun stuff in this bar like world rockin sex or something else interesting, now drink up.

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:49 pm

A large Schlitz for Joel, here ya go!

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:49 pm

It has almost become a parody of

ITYM it has.

Not that I don't encourage thoughtful giving.... but it seems like it might not be the wisest plan to promote thoughtless giving.

Beer for ya, Joel. Guinness today or something else?

buckethead alien · Post by **buckethead alien** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:51 pm

Ho-kay. Sex. You start.

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:52 pm

Gees people aahh I’ll have a beer please,...

joel the ornery · Post by **joel the ornery** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:53 pm

today is Irish Tuesday at Mike & Molly's... i imagine i'll be quaffing guinness and/or free busch beer at a friend's

how is everyone, looks like class reunion day on the ole' e-playa.

and yea, i would like to hear about all the sex heli wants to BRAG about (lucky bastard)

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:54 pm

There I was, looking into the bluest eyes I have ever seen and she was writhing in extacy as I ..................

joel the ornery · Post by **joel the ornery** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:57 pm

bastard!

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:57 pm

Blah blah blah. Am i barwench for the night?

buckethead alien · Post by **buckethead alien** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:57 pm

Barwench. That has a lovely ring to it.

joel the ornery · Post by **joel the ornery** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:58 pm

cute bar wench

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:59 pm

You are the bar wench then, I'll have a carrot juice.
Thanks Joel. Is that a gift?

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:01 pm

I can see it now, all us peeps in the Kantina Apokiliptika, some of us getting interrogated, some getting trashed, some watching the action on the pole, things are gonna rock.

joel the ornery · Post by **joel the ornery** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:02 pm

yup... as are the images of the saucy wench you are seeing, the bar wench, the wench that started the bar in the first place.

time for me to wander on home...

take care all...

joel, ornerier than thou.