Why do people walk straight thru camps?

Ms.Y.Depraved · Post by **Ms.Y.Depraved** » Sun Dec 14, 2003 8:32 pm

it is funny chai guy and i give it my blessing.

I was just resonding in some silly hippy voice being sarcastic. you didn't think i was serious about the ice cream and kittens???

Zane5100 · Post by **Zane5100** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 12:29 pm

Ms.Y.Depraved wrote:I was just resonding in some silly hippy voice being sarcastic. you didn't think i was serious about the ice cream and kittens???

You mean you were kidding around about kittens?

fuck

Ms.Y.Depraved · Post by **Ms.Y.Depraved** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 1:58 pm

Yes ! even though I am a cat lover

herrdirektor · Post by **herrdirektor** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 2:27 pm

JezebelinHell wrote:Or you could just dig a big hole, cover it with a blanket, and capture people walking through your theme camps. Bonus points if you can get a troll to guard it.

Saddam Hussein tried this. Didn't work

Zane5100 · Post by **Zane5100** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 8:05 am

JezebelinHell wrote:Or you could just dig a big hole, cover it with a blanket, and capture people walking through your theme camps. Bonus points if you can get a troll to guard it.

I still like the "Enchanted Rebar Forest" idea.

harleyb · Post by **harleyb** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:42 pm

No, not that kind. Just a giant piece of fishnet secured across the gaps. Immune to wind and a real surprize in the dark!

MoisturePup · Post by **MoisturePup** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:30 pm

DogBoy wrote:I would like to hear some opinions/experiences with regard to the people that just walk in a straight line to where they are going, regardless of if that path takes them right through someone elses' camp. Our camp saw an amazing number of these people this year. They just truck on past, no hello, no wave, nothing.

Uhm... duh, this is clearly the best way to find things to steal.

Gothalot · Post by **Gothalot** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:09 am

Lydia Love wrote:I think it's because we all know the property lines will vanish in a week.

Property just doesn't feel real out there, you know?

Regardless, I always sought the road-route first and had to restrain my husband - on numerous occaisions - from just toodling through someone else's front yard. I just couldn't get him to understand that people feel territorial about their camps. Maybe I'll have to ask him what he thinks about it.

When people went through our camp I just made them converse with me for a second. "Hi there! How are you, my name is Lydia, what's yours? Wow what a great outfit darling, you look delicious!"

I didn't really care whether or not they "got it" that they were going through my camp - I just made interaction of some sort my own personal toll for going through.

Lydia has it really. We don't "OWN" anything at Burning Man. It would be one thing if those very same people that walked through your camp came into your trailer or tent and made themselves at home, but, the didnt. Let your borders down fer &*%$s sake. Have faith and understand that the same rules dont aply in one world as the do in another. Do what Lydia did and make a friend!

SoulFreak_pdx · Post by **SoulFreak_pdx** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 10:37 pm

This is really far down the page but if anybody reads this I have a solution. Picture this in your mind... You are walking down the playa and you see a camp that is entirely elevated and has little wheel chair ramps next to the stairs. But it seems like the wheel chair ramps are really steep. And you think to yourself...how nice politically correctness even on the playa. Then you think to yourself....wait maybe this is
"skateboarders like to leave their camp really quickly, camp" and nobody would even think twice of walking through there.

dragonfly Jafe · Post by **dragonfly Jafe** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:15 am

Markov Chaney wrote:
DogBoy wrote:..raver trap..
That is one of the funniest things I've heard on the eplaya. If you don't make one, I just might.

An idea that is waiting for the right time would be to make an attractive looking mutated vehicle that appears from the outside to be an installation/art piece. Lots of glowing lights, etc. proclaiming "FREE GIFT" inside.

Once inside, there is an array of Playa-candy type gifts for Ravers. Lightsticks, candy necklaces, etc.

As soon as anything is touched, the door shuts (and locks), and the vehicle starts up and begins to drive off. A taped message explains what is happening. The vehicle drives to a random spot (or some Raver-type camp), then "releases" the subject.

A "Live Trap & Release" program for the Playa.

Obviously some legal issues to work out....

mars · Post by **mars** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 5:27 pm

Yah, I would much prefer people to walk crooked through my camp. That straight shit is sooo boring.

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 5:25 pm

serpentine ~~~~~~~~~~

Killbuck · Post by **Killbuck** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 8:13 pm

Hmmm...

The idea that we suspend our personal notions of space ownership and "my space" is compelling, yet I can see how this can rub the wrong way for some.

Although we at APOKILIPTIKA will welcome anyone passing though our camp at any time, at any hour, they will have to negotiate barbed wire, a machine gun, a missle battery and at least two heavily armed and voracious Amazons bent on punishing interlopers with devious pleasures of thier own design... which I'm not sure is something to look forward to or not... Hmmm.

Isotopia... ideas?

Consider as we are, the concept of NND- Nieghborhood Nuclear Deterance.

http://www.geocities.com/rx_norman

The Kernul

Mister Orb · Post by **Mister Orb** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 7:16 pm

I realize this point may already have been made, but...
As always, it boils down to courtesy, respect, and manners. If everyone had proper manners, there would be no need for many of the "laws" in the default world.
In BRC the rules of interaction are not put down in black and white (for the most part), rather they are a result of everyone being willing to make the event an enjoyable experience for all. When some jerk stumbles through your private space then screams and yells at you for getting called on it, the enjoyment meter moves back a tic or two.
In a place where the community decides what is proper and acceptable behavior, politeness and manners become that much more important.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:11 am

The manners call is interesting. The problem I have with defining laws as a deficit of manners is that I think (at least in this country) that laws can be more democratic. Did you ever read To Kill a Mockingbird? There we have a mannerly sociaty that is in a certain profound sence unlawful. Also, the manners are largely supported by a certain sort of gossip and everyone knowing everyone else's business. I think you're over simplifying, I guess.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:07 pm

Question?

Why do people walk straight thru camps?

Answer-

To get to the other side!

Cymbal Crash!

All you stupid fucking people couldn't get the joke!!!!!

hehehaha!

AIIZ

Ron · Post by **Ron** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 1:16 pm

Gothalot wrote:...

Lydia has it really. We don't "OWN" anything at Burning Man. It would be one thing if those very same people that walked through your camp came into your trailer or tent and made themselves at home, but, the didnt.

Um, I hate to point it out, but by your own admission, we do own things at burningman. Elsewise it wouldn't be another thing if the wanderer came into the trailer or tent.

In fact, we all do own quite a bit at the burn. We all own our personal experience of the burn, and all have our own needs. I stay at the edge of a large theme camp and see folk cutting through our corners all the time. No worries, no hassles. But if I see someone I don't know in the center of our residental section of camp, late at night, I may very well ask them what they're doing there. In the past, we've had to deal with both attempted sexual assaults and theft and with that in mind I like to know who's walking through my friends' sleeping space. Seems only reasonable to me.

Gothalot wrote:... Let your borders down fer &*%$s sake. Have faith and understand that the same rules dont aply in one world as the do in another. Do what Lydia did and make a friend!

Sure, I'll second all that while also adding that letting your borders down is something intensly subjective and personal. One person's risky venture is another's yawner. Only you can know how far to relax, what to protect, and how much those evalulations will change over your week on the playa. Know thyself, and don't let anyone's opinion on your borders impact your own evaluation of same. :)

Ron

diane o'thirst · Post by **diane o'thirst** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:13 pm

Some dickwad powered his bike through our camp in 2000. At night. With no lights. Wearing dark clothing. I said as he passed my tent, "Hey, lights would be a really good idea!" and he shot back, "Fuck you." Kept going, full speed ahead. I tried to catch him but he just sped up.

Let me tell you, if I'd caught him, I don't know about the rest of us but he'd have <u>definitely</u> seen lights...nice, colourful, star-shaped ones...

HughMungus · Post by **HughMungus** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:43 am

dragonfly Jafe wrote:Obviously some legal issues to work out....

Only if you get caught.

I love the idea of a maze. There was a maze one year which was really kick ass. So now I'm thinking (for some future event) not so much a maze as a fake camp that's really just a huge trap for the thieves and dopes.

Hmmm...this actually is a good idea...if people knew they could get caught stealing, there would be less stealing (especially bikes -- I'm imagining a nice-looking bike with a wireless transmitter on it)...and you could get it all on video...hmm..

HughMungus · Post by **HughMungus** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:48 am

Ron wrote:But if I see someone I don't know in the center of our residental section of camp, late at night, I may very well ask them what they're doing there. In the past, we've had to deal with both attempted sexual assaults and theft and with that in mind I like to know who's walking through my friends' sleeping space. Seems only reasonable to me.

Yep. Part of being a "community" is looking out for your neighbors.

I think the best reaction is courteous confrontation. I live in an area with lots of shifty, window bashing, thieving "homeless" and it's amazing what looking directly at them or otherwise letting them know that you know that they're there does to them. I've had to do this to get them away from friends and neighbors in the past. I don't say, "What the fuck are you doing?" I say, "Hey what's going on. You need something?"

Why do people walk straight thru camps?

Fishnets...

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