invitation to badger, truth about lake bed damage visit us

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 2:34 pm

<snort!!!>

obscurotron · Post by **obscurotron** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:23 pm

[quote="Badger"][quote]coem on out to trego during the event and we can discuss both sides of the argument abotu whether Burning Man uts the lake bed. [/quote]

Sorry asshat. I don't wrestle with pigs. I'm sure you're familiar with the analogy...

Seeing as you no doubt smell the sweet offal of media convergence on the event coupled with the (requesite) 'must have' anti-BM slant, I'm not surprised you choose this point to slither forth from beneath your damp little rock to issue your intellectually necrotic challenge.

Toss your baited little hook somewhere else Mr. Gump.

I've better things to sharpen my nails on than your fucktard ruminations on 'playa serpents' and 'wetland destruction.' Come back with a high school diploma and maybe you'll get to tango with the big boy. Until then I'm using your post as a viable alternative to the occasional sleeping pill.

You bore me.[/quote]

Dear Badger,

I think you have a big, bad case of "internet balls". You know, that habit of growing brave and strong when there's a keyboard, screen, several dozen router hops and miles of fiber optic and copper cabling stand between you and your target/adversary.

Now then, I truly despise people with "internet balls". That said, I am meeting up with Metric on Thursday, Sept. 1st, approximately 8am on Guru Lane to take a look at the storm damage, check a couple of things out and perhaps strategize on what can be done to restore the area to something resembling it's previous 'state of art'. All the while, you are more than welcome to come over, introduce yourself to a real human, not a sock puppet, and talk about any of this you might want to. I'm not here to threaten you or 'call you out' or any other juvenile nonsense like that. You want a real person to vent at, one of the real people behind SBM? Here's your target, if you feel truly capable and up to it. You won't hurt my feelings or my sensibilities. Who knows, it might make for a good debate or a good show.

Anyway, *I* will be there on unrelated matters. This is your chance to vent what you want to vent in public, to someone's face.

-ob

obscurotron · Post by **obscurotron** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:25 pm

Clicked 'submit' a few times too many. Oops.

obscurotron · Post by **obscurotron** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:27 pm

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swampdog · Post by **swampdog** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:55 pm

Oh just shut up. Stop BM org is demonstrably not about environmental conditions in the black rock playa, it's about stopping BM for whatever petty reason these guys have.

On this thread: http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... highlight= respecttheplanet starts talking about how BM's coordination with BLM and other government orgs is raising the bar and making it tougher for Burnin' Bush. If you were consistent in your concern for the playa, you'd want the bar raised for all parties, not raised for BM and lowered for BB. (oh, respecttheplanet disappears after a few posts to be replaced by obscurotron. Nice work there! It might fool my 9 year old daughter, but my 12 year old is on to you)

The biggest environmental threat to the playa is the coal fired plant proposal. Show me what action you're taking against them.

(btw, for newcomers, these guys pop up every year to try to sow doubt and discord amongst newbies. I got suckered into taking them semi-seriously and did some research about it last year, they're full of hot air. BM is by far the cleanest event of its size nationally and is raising the bar for other events. Stop BM org never post any direct answer to a direct question, so nobody here is taking them particularly seriously. Their leader, Rex Scates (Allanon2) developed his deep love and respect for the desert by racing Neons on the playa, altho he swears over and over that he's repented and now just wants to protect. But clearly he just wants to, well, stop BM. Like he says.)

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:13 pm

Clicked 'submit' a few times too many.

That seems oddly appropro.

At the risk of yet another fish centered sh*t storm, I wanna say that the saddest thing about this group is that between the lot of them they have about as much social sence as 1 asperger's case.

Okay, it's the funniest thing about them as well. Badger with internet balls. Rest assured, Badger's ballsy in person and competent to boot.

respecttheplanet · Post by **respecttheplanet** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:05 pm

swampdog wrote:Oh just shut up. Stop BM org is demonstrably not about environmental conditions in the black rock playa, it's about stopping BM for whatever petty reason these guys have.

On this thread: http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... highlight= respecttheplanet starts talking about how BM's coordination with BLM and other government orgs is raising the bar and making it tougher for Burnin' Bush. If you were consistent in your concern for the playa, you'd want the bar raised for all parties, not raised for BM and lowered for BB. (oh, respecttheplanet disappears after a few posts to be replaced by obscurotron. Nice work there! It might fool my 9 year old daughter, but my 12 year old is on to you)

God, you people are such thick headed idiots. I swear. *sigh* Anyway, your claims of "sock puppet" are once again (as usual) completely incorrect.

See if your 12 year old can figure out "Daddy thinks he knows everything but instead is just another internet asshat."

Have fun, children. Keep avoiding the issues. Keep your heads stuck into the sand.

If all you can really do is come up with some comments bashing the Dodge Neon, that's pretty pathetic. So, MissNev. "Rather than taking on such a huge event (Burning Man), why not start with a smaller, more intrusive group to target" - that's the same attitude that I've seen here time & time again. Here's what I see:

* "You are all wrong. We want proof! Proof! Link us to the proof!" Just because it's not in a little clicky link on the internet doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. We have *THOUSANDS* of pages from an FOIA request.
* "You're all just sock puppets." Again, completely incorrect, but if you people want to sit around and think otherwise, that's your perogative.
* "Why don't you go pick on some other event?" Nice way to try to divert attention out of your backyard instead of actually dealing with it. for the record, we have been paying attention to other events and are strongly opposed to the Sempra Energy power plant that's scheduled to be built near Gerlach. Fact remains, there are no other events that drag 40,000 people up there. So, MissNev, if there were any comparable events, we'd be looking into them as well. Your pithy little comments about Dodge Neons is about 5 years too late. Nice try, though.

That being said, have fun with your event. Clearly you are all such rugged desert warriors that know everything. *eyeroll*

(oh, if this is a duplicate post.. fix your piece of crap BB!

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Badger · Post by **Badger** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:19 pm

that's the same attitude that I've seen here time & time again. Here's what I see:

* "You are all wrong....

* "Why don't you go pick on...

Ooops. I think you forgot one. The point which suggests

* "Go fuck yourselves."

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:31 pm

Badger! I'm surprised at you! Bill Frist endorsed that proof!

swampdog · Post by **swampdog** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:33 pm

Sorry, all out of troll food. Thanks for proving again that you can't argue with a closed mind.

ZaphodBurner · Post by **ZaphodBurner** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:41 pm

There are fossils around the playa, right? And where there are large amounts of fossil deposits, there is often oil, right?

I'm just sayin'. Run a drill straight down the center of the Man, could be black gold, baby! SPLOOOOOOOGE!!! Gushing straight up into the air, showering down on everybody, turning the playa the color of ink...

...the BLM would love us 'cause Uncle Dubya would make them love us. Or, they could declare war on us except they'd miss and carpetbomb Empire.

There's a great big lakebed in south-central Nevada that the gummint has made a pretty big mess of, so perhaps these anti-Burn folks ought to go down to the Ranch and take issue with the REAL man.

Be brave. Be brave!
-c

JezebelinHell · Post by **JezebelinHell** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:10 am

Kinetic IV wrote:Rex:
Instead of pulling Badger out there to meet you how about you come and meet us? I'll buy your ticket and arrange for it to be at Will Call for you. All you have to do is show up. Now I can't guarantee you an audience with Badger, I can't even get that myself...but you would get a new perspective of the event and of some of us. My offer stands until 5 pm Pacific time August 18, 2005.

K

Um...hey...I like to drive stupid cars around deserts and splle badlee and think yer all stooopid. Can I have a free ticket?

capjbadger · Post by **capjbadger** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:07 am

JezebelinHell wrote:Um...hey...I like to drive stupid cars around deserts and splle badlee and think yer all stooopid. Can I have a free ticket?

LMAO...

*Adds JezebelinHell to his christmas list*

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:39 am

I'm outta here.

Off to the playa.

Allanon, don't hold your breath. I will extend an invitation to meet you at Thunderdome at any time. Only requirement is that you wear your mom's panties. It'll make for an interetsing part of the epic which'll no doubt be penned.

Isotopia · Post by **Isotopia** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:41 am

I'm outta here.

Off to the playa.

Hey, wait for me fucker!

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:30 pm

Smooches to both of you. Have a safe journey and I'll see ya there.

allanon2 · Post by **allanon2** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:21 pm

Badger wrote:I'm outta here.

Off to the playa.

Allanon, don't hold your breath. I will extend an invitation to meet you at Thunderdome at any time. Only requirement is that you wear your mom's panties. It'll make for an interetsing part of the epic which'll no doubt be penned.

so if I wore them we coudl take this to thunder dome? I will take that. Not sure hwo i will get them from my mom.

and badger just a fyi I do SCA and fight 300 pounds men in full armor with ratan swords and never get hit. SCA is a medevil group that has wars and such.

so yes I will take this to thunder dome if you are serious. I doubt you are. It woudl be fun. So thunder dome rules aply whoever wins is correct? aso if i win then yes BM damages the pliya and you agree to go to BLM and back me up. and if you win I will say they dotn daamge the pliya. Not very scientific but hey. whatever suits your fancy.

take care-
rex

Fat SAM · Post by **Fat SAM** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:56 pm

Hey Rex...it's me again. Your editor. I told you to run this shit by me, dude.

I'm very disappointed in you and slightly tossed on wine, so I'm too lazy to come up with anything funny to say to you. Instead, I'll just ask politely that you go to hell. You suck and you can't spell and you're obviously a mogoloid of some sort. Please kill yourself and take us all out of your misery.

Bitch.

Fat SAM · Post by **Fat SAM** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:00 pm

allanon2 wrote: so if I wore them we coudl take this to thunder dome? I will take that. Not sure hwo i will get them from my mom.

and badger just a fyi I do SCA and fight 300 pounds men in full armor with ratan swords and never get hit.

so yes I will take this to thunder dome if you are serious. I doubt you are.

take care-
rex

I hadn't even seen this when i posted. You are such a dick. I fight 300 pound men...For what? Who gets to go first on the train? Get a job. Get a life. Get out of the house you pathetic simpleton. If you spend your time better, you'll feel better about yourself and others.

I don't hate you, but I really don't like you. You're a walking turd. You have no more import in this world than used food. You're taking up the valuable space that styrofoam peanuts could be using. You're like the dark matter of humanity.

allanon2 · Post by **allanon2** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:22 pm

Fat SAM wrote:
allanon2 wrote: so if I wore them we coudl take this to thunder dome? I will take that. Not sure hwo i will get them from my mom.

and badger just a fyi I do SCA and fight 300 pounds men in full armor with ratan swords and never get hit.

so yes I will take this to thunder dome if you are serious. I doubt you are.

take care-
rex
I hadn't even seen this when i posted. You are such a dick. I fight 300 pound men...For what? Who gets to go first on the train? Get a job. Get a life. Get out of the house you pathetic simpleton. If you spend your time better, you'll feel better about yourself and others.

I don't hate you, but I really don't like you. You're a walking turd. You have no more import in this world than used food. You're taking up the valuable space that styrofoam peanuts could be using. You're like the dark matter of humanity.

wow i never been called a simpleton before. that is a new one.
and before you think SCA is for simpletons I would look into what it really is. In fact we have maybe 15K or more registerd combatents with full sets of amrour.

dark matetr of humanity. so that means i represent the majority of society? remebr dark matetr is what 5 times more common that visible matter? so my view points represents 80% of humanity. thanks for the ocmpliment.

have a nice day
-allanon

Kinetic IV · Post by **Kinetic IV** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:35 pm

There's nothing wrong with SCA. There's some pretty talented and nice people in that organization too.

dragonfly Jafe · Post by **dragonfly Jafe** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:51 am

If Rex does SCA on a regular basis, that would be an interesting match. Don't know about Badger though (never met him), but badgers can be mean and spirited (at least where I grew up). Of course, the elastic ropes you hang from changes things a bit.

Fat SAM · Post by **Fat SAM** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 6:55 am

Didn't say that there's anything wrong with SCA. Just with being a gian dildo.

Fat SAM · Post by **Fat SAM** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 6:56 am

Didn't say that there's anything wrong with SCA. Just with being a gian dildo. And you are a simpleton, Rex. You can't spell any better than a retareded ape and you may be the worst debater I've ever some across. If it's a new one on you, it's because you must be surrounded by VERY gentle, forgiving people.

TheJudge · Post by **TheJudge** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:04 am

allanon2 wrote:so if I wore them we coudl take this to thunder dome? I will take that. Not sure hwo i will get them from my mom.

I dont know, she seemed pretty willing to give them to me.

Sorry, I couldnt resist.

TheJudge · Post by **TheJudge** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:06 am

Hey Rex, now that I think about it, what are you doing to help prevent a gigantic coal-burning power plant from invading the precious playa you protect so dilligently? What have you done to prevent a serious pollution problem from occuring?

...Other than not driving your Neon, I mean.

Kinetic IV · Post by **Kinetic IV** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:56 am

TheJudge wrote:Hey Rex, now that I think about it, what are you doing to help prevent a gigantic coal-burning power plant from invading the precious playa you protect so dilligently? What have you done to prevent a serious pollution problem from occuring?

...Other than not driving your Neon, I mean.

Oh that's easy for anyone to answer. Not a damn thing. It's Stop BurningMan. Protection of the pliya only comes up as it's a weapon they can employ to further their agenda. They have a more single track focus than the UP does running alongside Jungo Road. Single track all the way baby!

All they want is their dragstrip back, oops, I meant unsullied playa, oops, I meant unsullied pliya back to roll those screaming Neons on. Sorry....it's not going to happen. But I'll take my scooter out next to the trash fence, take the muffle out of the exhaust and do an out and back pass in your honor.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:11 am

Are you kidding. They are actually going to be putting extra mercury in the air during the event in the hopes that the heavy metals kill us off so they can have the playa back for themselves. It's stopbmbyanymeansnessesary.org, after all.

Observer · Post by **Observer** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:56 pm

obscurotron wrote: Dear Badger,

I think you have a big, bad case of "internet balls". You know, that habit of growing brave and strong when there's a keyboard, screen, several dozen router hops and miles of fiber optic and copper cabling stand between you and your target/adversary.

Maybe yes, maybe no. Either way, beside the point.

Rex keeps returning to this board, as regular as clockwork, posting the same arguments time after time, even after they've been shot down time after time, in an obvious attempt to win through sheer persistence. And now we have him all but yelling "I double dog dare you", in a spirit of "the argument isn't over until I say its over, and don't you dare ignore me"

That's going to irritate almost anybody, and it doesn't merit a kind or gentle response. If you want Rex to get a friendlier response, how about if you get him to stop playing the broken record game?

nevadadrifter · Post by **nevadadrifter** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:17 pm

MissNev wrote:Allanon,

Rather than taking on such a huge event (Burning Man), why not start with a smaller, more intrusive group to target. I understand that there is a group of playa destroyers who converge on the desert with pussy littly Dodge Neon cars for races. Oil dripping, tire scarring, and noise polluting are some of the harmful effects to the pristine playa. Perhaps you can persuade these menaces just how harmful they are. After that, you can move up to the weekend campers who overtake the desert for selfish use. If you're successful with the smaller groups, you may gain the experience to take on the larger groups.

Are you referring to the ones that did this? Photos courtesy of Google Earth

playa scars 1

playa scars 2

Please forgive my ignorance, I would have just posted the damn photos, but the Img tags don't seem to be working for me!

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