Deep Insights (Gimme)
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yes, most certainly, mu opinion.cowboyangel wrote:your opinionSimply Joel wrote:i don't know, ask CA.samtzu wrote:what the hell are we doing talking about this on the "Deep Insights" thread? This is not "Deep Insight".
and you are correct, most of the previous comments regarding politics on this thread has not been deep insight.
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Agreed.. met you there....Simply Joel wrote:yes, most certainly, mu opinion.cowboyangel wrote:your opinionSimply Joel wrote: i don't know, ask CA.
and you are correct, most of the previous comments regarding politics on this thread has not been deep insight.
The revolutionary does not grow up because he cannot grow, while the creative individual cannot grow up because he keeps growing ~~ Eric Hoffer
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Unfortunatly, Democracy did work this way.... Now we need to reach out to these people and educate their fear away... If we can get them out of the emotional response to something 'differn't" and get them to live the "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you" ethic that the namesake of the Christian Church preached, then the current political climate will be changed.stuart wrote:here's a deep insight for you
a small majority in this country are christian homophobes.
the majority got a president who reflects those values
Democracy worked. Really.
Of course, we will have to practice the same ethic to show them we are sincere.
The revolutionary does not grow up because he cannot grow, while the creative individual cannot grow up because he keeps growing ~~ Eric Hoffer
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Well As R. Crumbs, Mr. Natural says, "twas ever thus". I'm impressed by how Nov. 2 , plunged so many good folks into depression. As if having a Democrat in office would make things all right. This has never been so. Most may not remember Kerry as the lesser of two evils, and not our savior. Freedom from all these feelings of fear and depression have more to do with how each of us thinks about things rather than what has happened in the last couple of days. I myself don't know what life is up to and so don't know what is best for the evolution of our little Universe. Bush being Pres right now may be very important for the unfolding of human evolution, and in that sense would be the highest good. To think that thinks could go wrong, is not to trust in the process of life. Darkness wrong, Light Good, ugh. It's all one Universe. To want Light to reign, is to sign yerself up for a lifetime of suffering. (One of the little tricks of the Cultural ego, to keep you forever chasing the carrot of being in control) We're not in control and don't even have answers to why anything is happening. Love, Joy, Delight, Peace, has much more to do with how you view things than anything that is happening outside of your inner being. We all will die as far as I know. Accept that fully and you don't have to worry about anyone else and their views. This is just my view and of course could be wrong for anyone else. I have though, come to these conclusions by actual experiment. I'm alot happier with Bush in office than I was when Jimmy Carter ( my personal favorite), was Pres. I've changed, the world has not and does not need to. Be of good Cheer. All IS going according to Chaos. Love is all around!
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More Deep Insights.....
ONE. Give people more than they expect and do it cheerfully.
TWO. Marry a man/woman you love to talk to. As you get older, their conversational skills will be as important as any other.
THREE. Don't believe all you hear, spend all you have and sleep all you want.
FOUR. When you say, "I love you," mean it.
FIVE. When you say, "I'm sorry," look the person in the eye.
SIX. Be engaged at least six months before you get married.
SEVEN. Believe in love at first sight.
EIGHT. Never laugh at anyone's dreams. People who don't have dreams don't have much.
NINE. Love deeply and passionately. You might get hurt but it's the only way to live life completely.
TEN. In disagreements, fight fairly. No name calling.
ELEVEN. Don't judge people by their relatives. (Especially MINE)
TWELVE. Talk slowly but think quickly.
THIRTEEN. When someone asks you a question you don't want to answer, smile and ask, "Why do you want to know?"
FOURTEEN. Remember that great love and great achievements involve great risk.
FIFTEEN. Say "bless you" when you hear someone sneeze. (Even if it's your dog or cat.)
SIXTEEN. When you lose, don't lose the lesson.
SEVENTEEN. Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; and Responsibility for all your actions.
EIGHTEEN. Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship.
NINETEEN. When you realize you've made a mistake, take immediate steps to correct it.
TWENTY. Smile when picking up the phone. The caller will hear it in your voice.
TWENTY-ONE. Spend some time alone.
TWO. Marry a man/woman you love to talk to. As you get older, their conversational skills will be as important as any other.
THREE. Don't believe all you hear, spend all you have and sleep all you want.
FOUR. When you say, "I love you," mean it.
FIVE. When you say, "I'm sorry," look the person in the eye.
SIX. Be engaged at least six months before you get married.
SEVEN. Believe in love at first sight.
EIGHT. Never laugh at anyone's dreams. People who don't have dreams don't have much.
NINE. Love deeply and passionately. You might get hurt but it's the only way to live life completely.
TEN. In disagreements, fight fairly. No name calling.
ELEVEN. Don't judge people by their relatives. (Especially MINE)
TWELVE. Talk slowly but think quickly.
THIRTEEN. When someone asks you a question you don't want to answer, smile and ask, "Why do you want to know?"
FOURTEEN. Remember that great love and great achievements involve great risk.
FIFTEEN. Say "bless you" when you hear someone sneeze. (Even if it's your dog or cat.)
SIXTEEN. When you lose, don't lose the lesson.
SEVENTEEN. Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; and Responsibility for all your actions.
EIGHTEEN. Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship.
NINETEEN. When you realize you've made a mistake, take immediate steps to correct it.
TWENTY. Smile when picking up the phone. The caller will hear it in your voice.
TWENTY-ONE. Spend some time alone.
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No... well... only to make the air smell better....cowboyangel wrote:fuck you sam you goddamn swami, I know you're hiding in your damn orange robes way up there in North Landia.....does woodrow burn the incense?
Incense is the symbol of our prayers rising to "God"... but if we are that diety... then... where are they really going? To Heaven? We are Heaven... Naw, Woodrow just burns it to smell better. He's a pragmatist.
I, on the other hand, burn nothing... except brain cells. Prayer winds up being self directed, and contemplation is the only true Religion. Awareness is Oneness... and we are all the fucking Buddha...
Deep Insight? I had some once... but then I farted and it went away...
The revolutionary does not grow up because he cannot grow, while the creative individual cannot grow up because he keeps growing ~~ Eric Hoffer
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FUCK!!! That's funny!!! I choked on that one! Thanks, Heli, I needed that.helitack wrote:I'm was thinking today what if Steinbeck had written"Of Mimes and Men" instead. Wadda ya think? ht
The revolutionary does not grow up because he cannot grow, while the creative individual cannot grow up because he keeps growing ~~ Eric Hoffer
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howzis fer deep
The person in front of you, behind you, or to your left or right may do something unbelievably stupid and/or dangerous at any given moment.
Yes, even more than the shrub
Especially that guy in the mirror.
I've seen that guy do some absolutely RETARDED shit without the benefit of a single drop of alcohol to use as an excuse later.
And he does seem to be the one guy whose actions tend to affect my life the most...
I've seen that guy do some absolutely RETARDED shit without the benefit of a single drop of alcohol to use as an excuse later.
And he does seem to be the one guy whose actions tend to affect my life the most...
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Today's Chinese Proverb:"We're fools whether we dance or not, so we might as well dance."
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http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon_11_15_04td.html
Theodore Dalrymple wrote: Why Theo Van Gogh Was Murdered
The filmmaker focused on the shameful abuse of Muslim women by Muslim men in Europe. | 15 November 2004
The slaughter of filmmaker Theo Van Gogh on the streets of Amsterdam, in broad daylight, by a young man of Moroccan origin bent on jihad, has at last dented Dutch confidence that unconditional tolerance can be on its own the unifying principle of a viable society. For tolerance to work, it must be reciprocal; tolerance appears to the intolerant jihadist mere weakness and lack of belief in anything. Unilateral tolerance in a world of intolerance is like unilateral disarmament in a world of armed camps: it regards hope as a better basis for policy than reality.
Like most people in Western democracies, Van Gogh, by all accounts a brash and combative man, took his freedom of expression for granted. Most of us most of the time do not reflect much on the fact that such freedom is an historical exception rather than an historical rule, a reversible achievement rather than a free gift of God. There are still many who would rather kill than brook any contradiction of their opinions or beliefs, even while they live in the most tolerant of societies.
But why kill Theo Van Gogh, of all the people who have expressed hostility to radical Islam? Perhaps it was mere chance, but more likely it resulted from his work’s exposure of a very raw nerve of Muslim identity in Western Europe: the abuse of women. This abuse is now essential for people of Muslim descent for maintaining any sense of separate cultural identity in the homogenizing solution of modern mass society.
In fact, Islam is as vulnerable in Europe to the forces of secularization as Christianity has proved to be. The majority of Muslims in Europe, particularly the young, have a weak and tenuous connection to their ancestral religion. Their level and intensity of belief is low; pop music interests them more. Far from being fanatics, they are lukewarm believers at best. Were it not for the abuse of women, Islam would go the way of the Church of England.
The abuse of women has often, if not always, appealed to men, because it gives them a sense of power, however humiliated they may feel in other spheres of their life. And the oppression of women by Muslim men in Western Europe gives those men at the same time a sexual partner, a domestic servant, and a gratifying sense of power, while allowing them also to live an otherwise westernized life. For the men, it is convenient; interestingly, but perhaps not surprisingly, almost the only openly hostile expressions toward Islam from British-born Muslims that I hear come from young women, some of whom loathe it passionately because they blame it for their servitude.
Religious sanction for the oppression of women (whether theologically justified or not) is hence the main attraction of Islam to young men in an increasingly secular world. This explains why a divide often opens between brothers and sisters in the same European Muslim family; the sisters want liberty, but the brothers enforce the old rules. They have to, or the whole gratifying system breaks down.
This, I suspect, is the source of the rage against Theo Van Gogh.
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There is more to us than the nuts and bolts found in the space time continuum... there are patterns, fractals of intent, that move us and are moved by us. But, is there something else out there? Something that moves in concert, and in dissonance, that takes us from our highest ideals to our deepest fears, lusts, and hatreds? Although I am tempted (very strongly) to believe that we are nothing more than an upright bag of chemicals that has gone horribly wrong, I suspect that the same thing that happens between photons (instantaneous communication of information across space/time) happens with us in ways that are not good for this planet.
BM is an attempt (or, was an attempt) to get that information flow to head into creative and positive directions. I wonder where it will actually end up. I see the battle between the BORG and BORG2 as just that same old information flow going horribly wrong...
... that's it for now... more later.
BM is an attempt (or, was an attempt) to get that information flow to head into creative and positive directions. I wonder where it will actually end up. I see the battle between the BORG and BORG2 as just that same old information flow going horribly wrong...
... that's it for now... more later.
The revolutionary does not grow up because he cannot grow, while the creative individual cannot grow up because he keeps growing ~~ Eric Hoffer
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I have but the most general understanding of the whole borg/borg 2 thing being an outsider far removed from it all. However, it tickles my mind into thinking about yin/yang, rising/falling, creation/destruction.
It helps for me not to put good/bad value on these things but to appreciate the duality which keeps the whole ball rolling (although I'm not always able to accomplish emotional detachment). It also helps to seed the seed of one within the other to recognize the interdependence.
What fun is a ball game without opposing teams? Much energy is created in this way of opposition.
It helps for me not to put good/bad value on these things but to appreciate the duality which keeps the whole ball rolling (although I'm not always able to accomplish emotional detachment). It also helps to seed the seed of one within the other to recognize the interdependence.
What fun is a ball game without opposing teams? Much energy is created in this way of opposition.
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A contribution from Tom Robbins -Even Cowgirls get the blues
Poetry and magic. At every level. If civilization is ever going to be anything but a grandiose pratfall, anything more than a can of deodorizer in the shithouse of existence, then statesmen are going to have to concern themselves with magic and poetry. Bankers are going to have to concern themselves with magic and poetry. Time magazine is going to have to write about magic and poetry. Factory workers and housewives are going to have to get their lives entangled in magic and poetry.
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Do you think such a thing could ever happen?
If you understood poetry and magic, you'd know it doesn't matter.
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Poetry is nothing more than an intensification or illumination of common objects and everyday events till they shine with their singular nature, until we can experience their power, until we can follow their steps in the dance, until we can discern what part they play in the Great Order of Love. How is this done? By fucking around with syntax.
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didn't want to start a new thread so thisun will do.
Couldn't didn't go to the man this year for a variety of reasons but mainly because it just didn't "feel right" to go. Mom needs a serious opperation so I will be flying east very soon.....glad I now have this time to do that.......
Burningman is a state of mind anyway, I've always felt.....
Couldn't didn't go to the man this year for a variety of reasons but mainly because it just didn't "feel right" to go. Mom needs a serious opperation so I will be flying east very soon.....glad I now have this time to do that.......
Burningman is a state of mind anyway, I've always felt.....
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believe is false."- William Casey, CIA Director 1981