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calsur · Post by **calsur** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:57 pm

This is a heads up and it is not pretty. The fox network show “Malcolm in the middle” is airing its season premier and it is suppose to take place at Burning Man. The trailer is disgusting in that the dialog went something like this “Naked women, alcohol, naked women, drugs, naked women, sex…..art”. Ten thousand new yahoos and frat boys next year. Did anyone else see this trailer? Does the ORG know about it?

And so you do not think less of me for watching fox, I am a die hard COPS fan.

Magikal · Post by **Magikal** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 1:33 am

So what else is new? The uninitiate fixate on the nekkid women. Once they get there, and discover that it's not "stripper paradise", they lose interest. By the very nature of it (harsh environment, weird people, ordinary folx with their clothes off), the unworthy quickly lose interest, while those who are worth a damn are fascinated by the art & the spirit of the event. It is a self-correcting problem.

Karma · Post by **Karma** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:16 am

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Originally aired: Friday September 30, 2005 on FOX

Director: Peter Lauer
Guest Stars: Rosanna Arquette (unknown)
Production Code: 06-05-701

When Hal and Lois discover Malcolm and Reese's plan to sneak off to the Burning Man festival, they decide to make it a family outing, with predictably disastrous results.

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There's a scene with a rickshaw. On one of the takes during filming, Jane Kaczmarek accidentally thumps her trumpet on the head of the Asian Guy running next to the rickshaw. It wasn't planned in the scene, and happened near the end of the scene so it didn't mess up the take. But it was funny and she was so nice and apologetic. It won't make it on the episode on tv probably, but it might be on the DVD blooper reel. This just shows what a wonderful person Jane is and how she is nothing like her character in real life. As a sidenote, I was that Asian guy. (Edit)

Did you know... that the Burning Man Festival was actually filmed at a private ranch in Santa Clarita, CA called Mystery Mesa Sanctuary? Spielberg is noted as having a history with the location where it was also used in the movie, "War of the Worlds." (Edit)

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Karma · Post by **Karma** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:18 am

Actually, I think it sounds kinda funny.
Plus, ya know, Rosanna Arquette ! ^_^

Dusty Pony · Post by **Dusty Pony** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:54 pm

I just saw the commercial - YIKES! OK, Malcolm is one of my favorite shows and never fails to make me laugh - but WHAT?!?!?!?! Burning Man! The only other shows I have heard of mentioning it were American Dad (animated) and Reno 911, but supposedly the show is about them trying unsuccessfully to get there.

I guses we'll just have to wait and see on this one. I suppose they're allowed to do that? To use the BM name and stuff for the show?

Thanks Karma, for the synopsis. It's cool to know where they filmed it (since it obviously wasn't there) and will be interesting to see how they interpret the costumes, etc...

geez, I hope this doesn't turn me off from Malcolm- it is a really good show!

LicaLicious · Post by **LicaLicious** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:08 pm

There was a Simpsons reference I thought was hilarious - Lisa is hanging out with a bunch of hippies who "pocket mulch" and they are trying to save a tree from being cut down. Hippie guy says that whoever volunteers to live in the tree can't come down, "not even for burning man". Lisa is the only one to volunteer.

DaBomb · Post by **DaBomb** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:49 pm

This is a satire about Burning Man, and at least the Bmorg did not sell us out in this case. Malcolm can get away with this the "one time fair use" clause as stipulated in US copyright laws.

But the BMorg did sell us out to the Discovery Channel/New York Times.

The full details: http://www.savebrc.org

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As a community, I urge you to get on the internet and save Black Rock City. Please be sure to sign the petition. The direct link is:

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Love and Rockets,
DaBomb

Post by **AntiM** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:35 am

There's a Dharma and Greg episode where they're looking at photos, and say something along the lines of "Oh Greg, look there you are on the motocycle with Snake at Burning Man." The show was set in SF, so it seemed appropriate somehow.

So, is Fox Network trying to be cool, or is there a burner screenwriter whose personal mission is to get burning man into every show at least once? A personal joke spiraling out of control?

Anfd I swear the banana bike in the preview is very familiar.

Post by **AntiM** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 8:07 am

I found this synopsis on one of the Fox sites:

In the "Burning Man" episode, Malcolm and Reese try to sneak off to the Burning Man festival, but when Lois and Hal catch wind of their plans, they decide to borrow an RV and make it a family trip. At the festival, sparks fly between Malcolm and an older shaman (Arquette), Lois learns the joy of hemp and goes topless, and Hal becomes performance art. The festivities come to a screeching halt when the RV goes up in flames.

Dammit, it actually sounds funny. Dammit.

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:01 am

I believe most people are going to recognize it for what it is; comedy. Those that actually look to Malcom in the Middle for an honest and accurate view of the world have, uhm, bigger issues. In fact, I would bet the producers would get a big kick out of getting petitions and such. They will probably laugh their asses off that anyone would take it seriously.

Breathe ... it's just a silly TV show, it isn't real life. Being able to laugh at yourself is one of the keys to being a little less uptight in life. Complaining about it would be like complaining that a caricature doesn't look exactly like you. It's like ... duh!

ZaphodBurner · Post by **ZaphodBurner** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:52 pm

Dusty Pony wrote: The only other shows I have heard of mentioning it were American Dad (animated) and Reno 911, but supposedly the show is about them trying unsuccessfully to get there.

The Reno 911 episode is about them going to do an undercover LSD bust, so they dress up in flourescent yellow fairy or bondage outfits, et al, stop at a restaurant in rural Nevada to eat (in said flourescent fairy clothes), realize that nobody brought a wallet since they didn't have anywhere to carry them, so they have to dine-and-dash. Then they run out of gas in the middle of the desert, try to convince the highway patrol that they're police (still in flourescent fairy clothes) and end up getting arrested before they get there.

It's a spoof of COPS. Pretty amusing, actually.

"Okay, this thong is starting to ride up my crack, so I really just want to get there and get this over with." -- Dangle

-c

Dusty Pony · Post by **Dusty Pony** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:46 pm

Thanks Geekster - you're right, it is a silly show and we should laugh. One of my fave episodes is when the Dad gets cought up playing Dance Dance Revolution and enters a contest danceing against teenage girls. heehee, ah.

OMG -Zaphod I would love to see that Reno 911 episode - that sounds hilarious! Aw, those guys from the State just rock. Make sure and see Wet Hot American Summer if you like them!

We'll just have to wait and see on this one.... ;)

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:18 pm

Wonder if he will get caught up playing Dance Dance Immolation ....

calsur · Post by **calsur** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:51 pm

Karma,

Thanks for the info. Do you know what episode it was when Malcolm mixes 2 chemicals in a science class, the scene cuts to a low Earth orbit and you see a mushroom cloud and then cuts back to the school being decontaminated by people in class 5 biohazard? I was laughing so hard I almost fell out of my chair.

geekster,

I really believe that the reason it is comedy is that there is something so similar in your life that it makes you go “That is like when Uncle Warren got drunk and threw Mom’s head into the fish tank.” Basically you can relate.

And before anyone asks, I really did not know the pound of Sodium (metallic) that I flushed down the toilet would break the 8” sewer main and render El Toro High School uninhabitable for 2 days by State law. I was just trying to give all the dope smoking jocks a POWER wash. Think of it as a reverse bidet.

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:03 am

Holy mother of FUCK! A POUND of sodium? I dropped a couple of grams into a beaker of water. It exploded and little glowing pieces of sodium were embedded in the acoustic tile in the ceiling. They didn't like that.

calsur · Post by **calsur** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:17 am

Yes, a pound distributed over six toilets. I think the reason it did not work as I had planned is it was still in a very heavy oil when I dumped it into the pots. The sewer failure was blamed on obstruction in the pipe that was a good two hundred feet from the bathroom. I think it all get flushed, collected at the obstruction and then blew when the oil finally got washed off.

Does this make me an urban terrorist? It was 1976 and I think that is still classified as a prank as I was trying to mess with jocks.

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:27 am

HA! Mine was in like 1974 ... wait a sec, I will tell you exactly ... yeah, 1974. Another funny thing happened that year, I was in a private religious school that year. It was the first year the school had been in existance. They had a brand new stage. They had a school play. They wanted to know how to make smoke. I told them to mix saltpeter and sugar 50/50 and that would do the trick. I came in on monday and they were mad at me. They had the play on Sunday. They mixed way too large of a batch. It burned completely through the stage. Evacuation ensued. It was "my fault" . I said "How much did you make?" they said well, we took the container of saltpeter and mixed it with an equal amount of sugar. I said "THE WHOLE CONTAINER?" they were like "well, yeah" and I was like "Man, all you needed was like a fucking BOTTLE CAP full" and so I got in trouble for saying "fucking" too.

ZaphodBurner · Post by **ZaphodBurner** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:04 am

geekster wrote:Holy mother of FUCK! A POUND of sodium?

That's big fun right there. In my dumber days we used to cut slices off a one-pound cylindrical brick of it and skip them across an old industrial lake (wearing gloves) to watch them flame up and then finally pop as they submerged. One day, my friend dropped the the mason jar container and it rolled into the water. We flew out of there like bats out of hell.

Spectacular.

Also great fun in college fountains because after the explosion, there's no evidence. Pure speculation, of course.

-c

robotland · Post by **robotland** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:28 am

I was all about black powder and cannon fuse when I was a kid....Knowing that I did magic shows, the minister of the Unitarian church that I went to as a kid asked me to "make Santa appear" for the Christmas service, and I obliged for a couple of years. Then he told me that the upcoming year would be the last, and I took the opportunity to cap off a huge fireball that scorched the seat of his Santa suit and filled the church with brimstone stench. For me, Christmas will ALWAYS smell like a freshly-detonated flashpot.....

Dusty Pony · Post by **Dusty Pony** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:21 pm

Wow - you guys made the best pranks! Now i wish I had been a boy, so I would have thought of stuff like that. But I was too busy riding horses to try and blow things up, so I can't complain! Geekster - I think it was totally the schools fault for not trying out your suggestion on a smaller scale first - a little common sense. geez. Its like paint - you take a little and try mixing and see if two colors will make what you want before dumping gallons of paint together.
Robot land - hmmm.... are you near NYC? cause hopefully Santacon is gonna happen this year again - then you can make 400 Santas appear! come out and play!!!!

calsur · Post by **calsur** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:31 pm

Dusty Pony,

It is never too late to start.

Rabbi Dali Rick · Post by **Rabbi Dali Rick** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:39 am

and blowing shit up, or setting things on fire are not a gender thing.... some of the best blower uppres and fire-er-ers are girls. The've taken over the clubhouse and kicked the boys out.

you're bestest pal,
the rebbi

Dusty Pony · Post by **Dusty Pony** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:16 pm

I just saw the episode (I'm on the East Coast ha ha)
It was really good! Hooray! The writing was excellent - Malcolm never fails to dissapoint. I loved that Hal was revered for his unintentional Suburban Dad Performance Art, and there were wierd things that made it funny too- like Malcolm stepping on a cactus, the shiny professional look of everyone's costume and how super clean everyone was! Reese not wanting to burn the man was classic.

BTW, Lois kicks ass.

How does everyone else feel about it? Did you like it or not?

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:27 pm

I pretty much agree with Dusty Pony, I don’t see the show regularly, but I thought it was good even with the humor at kind of expressing some of the spirit of burning man,... and the transformations that can happen to some people. and how others seem unaffected .... well sort of

griffin · Post by **griffin** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:20 pm

The best part of the episode was dinetly the transformations shown. Loise making friends at the porta potties was great. I also liked the seemingly hours long conversation that Malcolm had with Rosanna A. Those conversations are so common.

I thought there would be more jokes about the dust factor, but Hal was so obsessed with keeping the RV spotless, that there weren't time for those jokes.

All in all, I think they depicted a fairly accurate representation of burning man, while staying withing the confines of a situation comedy.

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:42 pm

I liked it. Gave me a playa jones.

souldancer · Post by **souldancer** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:59 pm

I knew it would be hilarious! I have always liked the show, so I was super excited to see this episode.

I liked the way they said "Burning Man" about a hundred times in less than 30 minutes. It was great. And yes, I LOVED how Reese responded. (Especially since he was the one telling Dewey how it was about Art...Naked women...expression...naked women...community...naked women - and I gotta say, it was funny when he said, "all you heard me say was naked women, wasn't it?" or something like that) And how he didn't want to burn the man! How classic. Reminds me of the "Save the Man" protesters! YAY for them! Did you notice that Dewey was totally dusty the first time you saw him after they got there? Maybe DIRTY is more accurate, but who cares? I thought it was really funny! I can't wait to see reruns!

Dusty Pony · Post by **Dusty Pony** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:08 am

Another aspect I liked was that the only characters who really had fun were the ones who PARTICPATED!!!!!!!! Poor Dewey. At least he enjoyed the fire at the end :)

Lorgasm · Post by **Lorgasm** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 7:42 am

When I heard from a co-worker about the Malcolm episode coming up, I must admit my interest was piqued. I contacted my friend (a fellow burner) and we watched it together. We did get a kick out of the dad and his RV and how the burners thought his actions were more of a performance art. I liked the part where the RV blew up and was burning.

Listening to the dad's rants was similiar to some of the rants I've heard from others in the default world who just do not understand or who just do not want to understand. They are scared.

At any rate, it was a bit wierd to see an entire's sitcom who's basis was that of the festival. What's next, Sesame Street?

Bad Kitty · Post by **Bad Kitty** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 10:39 am

Dusty Pony wrote:I just saw the episode (I'm on the East Coast ha ha)
It was really good! Hooray! The writing was excellent - Malcolm never fails to dissapoint. I loved that Hal was revered for his unintentional Suburban Dad Performance Art, and there were wierd things that made it funny too- like Malcolm stepping on a cactus, the shiny professional look of everyone's costume and how super clean everyone was! Reese not wanting to burn the man was classic.

BTW, Lois kicks ass.

How does everyone else feel about it? Did you like it or not?

I thought it was funny, and accurate in a caricature-ish kind of way, ie. taking the most well-known aspects and exaggerating them. I loved it that Lois and Reese totally got it. And the almost-but-not-quite Larry Harvey character was hilarious! Also watching that RV go up in flames was more cathartic for me than any actual burn has ever been

Bad Kitty

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