Burning Man Vs. ?

diane o'thirst · Post by **diane o'thirst** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:30 pm

Club 33's not secret. You're offered a membership if you buy Disney stock.

Chai Guy · Post by **Chai Guy** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:30 am

Club 33's not secret. You're offered a membership if you buy Disney stock.

Ahhhh yes, let us not speak of the many post-Eisner atrocities that have brought shame upon the magic kingdom. Walt is spinning in his cryogenic chamber above the Firehouse even as we speak.

Here are some ways to really enjoy disneyland.

1. Get there EARLY, and go on all the "big rides" first. I'd start with "Indiana Jones" then skip on over to Tomorrow Land for Space Mountain, then the Matterhorn and then Big Thunder Railroad, and then finally that Log Jam ride where they ripped off all the Characters from "America Sings".

2. Don't eat any meals in the park, the food is horrible and over-priced. Sneak your own food in with you (trail-mix, snacks, fruit, whatever you can fit in a small bag). Take the Monorail to the hotel and eat there or walk from the hotel to a local restaurant. If you absolutely have to eat in the park, splurge and eat the Blue Bayou. It's expensive but at least the food is edible and you can watch all the people ride by in the Pirates of the Caribbean ride.

3. Eat a few space cakes before you go in.

Hope this helps.

Chai Guy · Post by **Chai Guy** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:42 am

Oh yeah,

4. Go on Super Bowl Sunday, the park will be EMPTY!

diane o'thirst · Post by **diane o'thirst** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:51 pm

I'd skip Big Thunder Mountain. Very LIMP in terms of rollercoasters.

I read somewhere to go on the rides during the fireworks. I followed that advice and it ROCKS!

You don't really miss the fireworks, either, they actually get more effective.

And I'd disagree on the park food. It's not bad, and I have a pretty sensitive/sophisticated palate. They hire good people (I know because they visited my school on a recruitment venture). But I can subsist on finger food for most of the day, just grab a cookie and a drink and run.

Chai Guy · Post by **Chai Guy** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 5:19 pm

This weeks "Vs."

Burning Man Vs. "Jonestown"

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:58 pm

Chai guy , you're in top form. Now you have to watch out for those guys who have a lump in their suit under the left armpit. NO kool-aid for you!!!
Dan
PS. do you mind if I take out life insurance on you,,,maybe 50K ???

joel the ornery · Post by **joel the ornery** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 7:10 pm

Chai, i wouldn't eat or drink at first camp...

nice work....

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 7:19 pm

Not quite sure how we were going to handle the Apocalypse at Kamp Apkolptika this year I did happen to bring two canisters of Kool-Aid and some boxes of Nilla wafers as sacraments,...... Guess I’ll keep them till next year you never know when a congressman might happen by and we’ll need them.

Chai Guy · Post by **Chai Guy** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:45 pm

SF Mayor Willie Brown declares July 29 to be "No Spectators Day"

SF Mayor George Moscone and Jim Jones meet Walter Mondale at SFO - Willie Brown attributed Moscone's electoral victory to Jones.

Chai Guy · Post by **Chai Guy** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:14 am

Mmm.... Kool-Aid!!!

It’s become a cult. And it’s about time we all woke the fuck up and recognized it.

I’m not saying a cult is a bad thing, mind you. Christianity started as a
cult, as did Mormonism, the Quakers, and Freemasonry. Mohammed was believed to be starting a cult in the deserts of Arabia – one that swept out and conquered the known world, moving from cult to religion in record time. Cults can be forces for enormous good in the world. But the Scientologists are going through their cult stage now – in another hundred years they’ll be richer and more mainstream than the Mormons, I predict.

Why has it become a cult? Well, that’s actually really easy to explain: Black Rock City is a crucible, combined, more often than not, with intense doses of psychedelic drugs. If you were going to design an environment for brainwashing, you’d be hard pressed to come across a more effective situation than already exists in Black Rock City. The environment is harsh and forces people to cooperate, relaxing their normal ego-boundaries. The drugs intensify this ego-dissolution, and voila! You’ve got all the makings for a post-apocalyptic Catharism.

http://www.tripzine.com/articles.asp?id=mcburners

Yeah, I don't think I'm going to be invited to any First Camp Parties next year either.

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:09 am

Chai, this is getting pretty entertaining. Don't forget "radical inclusion" Is there some way that you can pick on Scientology and ESTeroids. That should make for great laughs. Maybe if you hit the right nerve, you could be as infamous as Salman Rushdie. Larry Harvey and Tom Cruise might jump you in some dark alley.
Whoaa, imagine the carnage!!!
Dan

Chai Guy · Post by **Chai Guy** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:32 am

Chai, this is getting pretty entertaining. Don't forget "radical inclusion" Is there some way that you can pick on Scientology and ESTeroids.

Even I'm afraid of Scientologists. I once picked up one of their little gizmos, those "e-meter" thingies. I was going to do a mini-theme camp based on giving people "readings" with mock literature and stuff. Then someone suggested that it might not be such a good idea, you know, if I wanted to come back from the desert.

Things that sound dirty, but aren't:

Larry Harvey and Tom Cruise might jump you in some dark alley

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:34 am

Chai Guy wrote:
Chai, this is getting pretty entertaining. Don't forget "radical inclusion" Is there some way that you can pick on Scientology and ESTeroids.
Even I'm afraid of Scientologists. I once picked up one of their little gizmos, those "e-meter" thingies. I was going to do a mini-theme camp based on giving people "readings" with mock literature and stuff. Then someone suggested that it might not be such a good idea, you know, if I wanted to come back from the desert.

Dang. Is it okay to plagerize from people you don't speak to anymore? Cause BM sounds like a perfect place for "Artentology."

EvilDustBooger · Post by **EvilDustBooger** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:44 am

theCryptofishist wrote: "Artentology."

The study of tents at an art exhibition?

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:55 am

""Even I'm afraid of Scientologists. I once picked up one of their little gizmos, those "e-meter" thingies. I was going to do a mini-theme camp based on giving people "readings" with mock literature and stuff. Then someone suggested that it might not be such a good idea, you know, if I wanted to come[i] back[/i] from the desert. ""

I entered "scientology + threat" in google and got more than a half million pages. Dang, now i'm going to have to keep my 44 carbine loaded.

[b]Things that sound dirty, but aren't: [/b]

[quote]Larry Harvey and Tom Cruise might jump you in some dark alley[/quote][/quote]

ZaphodBurner · Post by **ZaphodBurner** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:38 am

can't sit still wrote: I entered "scientology + threat" in google and got more than a half million pages. Dang, now i'm going to have to keep my 44 carbine loaded.

TCoS's modus operandi is to sue or threaten to sue everybody who violates there will. As an abuse administrator for a network provider, I used to have a special file for Scientology threats...they'd threaten to sue a major network because one user somewhere posted disparaging remarks about Scientology on some newsgroup or discussion board.

As to Larry Harvey vs. Jonestown, my mother got in with some Jim Jones friends-of-Jesus types the police were harrassing in Mississippi and started talking about going down to a religious center in South America. Didn't happen, (of course) 'cause she recognized they were trying to brainwash both of us. I haven't realized that you people are brainwashing me yet, so Burning Man wins.

-c

stuart · Post by **stuart** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:52 am

My BM experiences and my DL experiences are often very similar.

DL: stay up late. in the dark, working hard to entertain
BM: stay up late, in the dark, partying, working hard to entertain

DL: sit around figuring out ways to make something work
BM: sit around, high, figuring out ways to make something work

DL: stare at a computer for hours doing media design for attractions
BM: stare at a computer for hours doing media design for theme camps

DL: folks complain about Eisner and the board
BM: folks complain about Harvey and the borg

DL: people don't get Burning Man
BM: people don't get Disneyland

here's where they differ

DL: get paid
BM: bleed cash

DL: jeans and a t-shirt
BM: faux fur chaps

DL: coworkers drag brood to church on Sunday morning
BM: coworkers watch sunrise after dancing all night

Chai Guy · Post by **Chai Guy** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:59 am

Hey Stuart,

I was hoping you would weigh in on this thread!

DL: jeans and a t-shirt
BM: faux fur chaps

You just shattered the mental picture I had of you with sitting at your computer wearing the chaps and Mouse ears.

Oh well...

Hey can't you just claim that the chaps are helping you to "get into character"??

dragonfly Jafe · Post by **dragonfly Jafe** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:10 am

Chai Guy wrote:Hey can't you just claim that the chaps are helping you to "get into character"??

IIRC, there were epsiodes with Goofy in chaps....

btw - nice start Chai, cannot wait to see where it goes from here!

Chai Guy · Post by **Chai Guy** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:07 pm

THE 10 WARNING SIGNS OF A CULT:
1. The spiritual group claims to have received special instructions from one or more "messengers from the sky."

The playa in winter forbids you.
It keeps secrets for too profound for humans.
The ancient gods and goddesses fly midnight kites with ice tails.
Whipping winds will freeze even flames out there.
The black block of night turns our martian summer into Neptune where the sun is the size of a morning star.
http://www.burningman.com/blackrockcity ... 2_i01.html

2.The spiritual group uses a special set of rules that you must obey or be cast out.

2005 Survival Guide
http://www.burningman.com/preparation/e ... index.html

3.The spiritual group promises eternal life in a paradise if you obey its set of rules, and threatens eternal suffering if you do not obey its set of rules.

The Rules and Consequences:
http://www.burningman.com/preparation/e ... ement.html

4.The spiritual group demands that you give up as much of your assests and your yearly income to it as possible.

“Wish List” http://www.burningman.com/participate/wishlist.html

5. The members of the spiritual group call each other "brother" and "sister," even when they aren't related at all.

“So there you have it, my Brothers and Sisters of the Burning Man”
http://www.burningman.com/preparation/t ... nical.html

6. The spiritual group is led by a group of enlightened masters who wear strange clothes and speak in esoteric parables.

http://www.burningman.com/whatisburning ... /viva.html http://www.burningman.com/whatisburning ... a_vie.html

7. The spiritual group demands that you accept its teachings without reservation, even when those teachings are in direct conflict with your understanding of basic scientific knowledge.
The 10 Principles: http://www.burningman.com/whatisburning ... iples.html

8. The spiritual group demands that you select your spouse and your closest friends from its membership.
Costco Soulmate Trading Outlet
http://www.thespoon.com/costco/
http://www.burningman.com/preparation/e ... ships.html

9. The spiritual group demands that you place your children in its training program.
Kidsville: http://www.burningman.com/preparation/e ... .html#kids

10. The spiritual group teaches that giving up your life for the sake of the spiritual group may become necessary sometime in the future.

“You Voluntarily assume the risk of serious injury or death by attending”

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:39 pm

Hey chai--you forgot the part when the spiritual group invites you for a weekend and doesn't feed you any protean so you can't think. Plus the sleep dep.

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 2:11 pm

Chai,your creativity is running amuck. Another week of this and you'll be in a witness protection program.....or you'll be food for the worms.

Keep up the good work.

Dan

The Count · Post by **The Count** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:37 pm

<Any other thoughts on taking the burn to Mickey withouth letting the commercialism or materialism turn you off?>

Just think of it like phone sex.

Just a LITTLE more money for a LITTLE more time and THEN you're finally gonna GET what you came for. In the next three minutes it's all gonna happen baby.....

Learn to embrace the joy in being broke, humiliated, and unfulfilled.

lazarus · Post by **lazarus** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:47 pm

The Count wrote:<Any other thoughts on taking the burn to Mickey withouth letting the commercialism or materialism turn you off?>

Just think of it like phone sex.

Just a LITTLE more money for a LITTLE more time and THEN you're finally gonna GET what you came for. In the next three minutes it's all gonna happen baby.....

Learn to embrace the joy in being broke, humiliated, and unfulfilled.

Perhaps all the sex you can get in the corn fed wilderness is on the phone. Hence the ability to even remember what that is.

The Count · Post by **The Count** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:24 am

You have NO idea....

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:06 pm

Chai,,,,,, we're waiting for the next instalment of BM VS ??
What happen??? the cancelbunny get you too??

http://thingy.apana.org.au/~fjc/scn/dis ... aq.html#Q5
Dan

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:02 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falles

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:56 pm

Ms Crypto, that is really a winner. I lived in Spain for a while and never heard of it. The Spanish really cut loose. Personal safety is rarely a concern. I'll bet their fireworks are plenty dangerous. I went to the running of the bulls and they made that as dangerous as they could.

I went to their forum for falles. It looks interesting. Unfortunately, I can't read Catalan or Basque. I think that I can figure out enough to navigate. I'm going to take it upon myself to invite them to come to Burning Man.
A couple hundred kilos of black powder could put the man in orbit,,,at least temporarily. Imagine something the size of the Contessa,,,,rigged to blow.
Dan

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:39 pm

Well 2 1/2 hrs later, I've invited all of Valencia to come to Burning Man. I told them that we have free sangria. I can't believe how smooth eplaya is compared to the Falles forum.
What a nightmare. I posted in Castillian. Whenever I went back to do a spelling correction,it would wait a while and undo my correction. Then an AOL banner came up and erased 1hr of work.
1/2 hr to register and 2 hrs to do 12 lines. I had a lot more than 12 lines but after 2 erasures I gave up.They have really cool avatars and smilies. They have 1 smilie where a guy covers himself with gas and lights himself. My kind of fun. Dan

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:36 pm

Well, the Spanish have evidently been looking at BM. They posted a link to a BM foto. Not too surprisingly it was a shot of 3 windmills,,,,a la Don Quixote.
I also got a reply from someone who speaks english.

"Thanks for the invitation, Dan. It's Very interesting to find out about traditions from other places in the world, especially when fire is involved, as we valencians are "absolutely crazy" about it...
Welcome to our forum. If you need any help with understanding something about "fallas", let us know"
AMPA

crazy about fire,,,,,sounds like they would fit right in to BM.
Dan