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Post by Sean » Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:33 am

From reading the guide it gave me an understanding that there are alot of undercover officers at this event. Is this an exageration or is that reality? And for underage drinking (im of age in canada but wont be down in the U.S. :( ) is it a big big deal or is it like here and the worst thing that can happen is they drive you home and talk to your parents? (unless you really make them mad you can get a $100 fine)

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Post by regionalchaos » Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:57 am

Sean wrote:From reading the guide it gave me an understanding that there are alot of undercover officers at this event. Is this an exageration or is that reality? And for underage drinking (im of age in canada but wont be down in the U.S. :( ) is it a big big deal or is it like here and the worst thing that can happen is they drive you home and talk to your parents? (unless you really make them mad you can get a $100 fine)
As long as your aren't making an ass out of yourself or being obvious you should not have any problems. Although there are a number of people who feel uncomfortable serving people underage, so you might not get drinks poured for you at all the different bars.

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Post by theCryptofishist » Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:33 pm

The word pre-event this year was that anyone serving alchohol to underage drinkers wo uld be in a sh*tload of trouble for violating federal and State law. I don't know how that played out, but I would plan not to drink while in country. There's a whole lot of experiences out there that don't need that sort of "enhancement" and there are not only legal but also in the heat and altitude health risks.
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Post by phil » Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:56 pm

Sean wrote:>SNIP<
And for underage drinking (im of age in canada but wont be down in the U.S.
>SNIP<
I think it's a mistake to come on a public BB and ask about violating the law. I also think it's naive to expect people to tell you how to evade underage drinking laws in a forum where users are registered. My suggestion is that if you're underage in the US, you should expect to behave appropriately and to be treated appropriately. Laws vary from nation to nation, state to state, province to province. We can deal with that.

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Post by Sean » Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:58 pm

i apologize for disrespecting the forum if thats what i did but i have found in many places there are written laws but then there is the way that law inforcement actually treats them and enforces them and i was just trying to find out the laws of then land so to speak

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Post by theCryptofishist » Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:01 pm

A cardianal rule of this board is to assume that all posts will be read by LEOs (law enforcement officers.)
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Post by Lassen Forge » Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:52 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:A cardianal rule of this board is to assume that all posts will be read by LEOs (law enforcement officers.)
Not only read, but posted to as well...

It's OK to ask the question about the law, public board or not. It's NOT ok, however, to talk about your plans to break the law.

BLM and PCSO/WCSO were looking for alcohol law violators last year pretty actively (and not cutting any slack, from what I saw). It's pretty safe to assume they will continue with their "enhanced enforcement" in both the areas of underage drinking and illegal drugs.

My thoughts to you on this...
(1) the legal drinking age in Nevada is 21. If you are caught imbibing and you are not yet 21, you will catch shit, and it probably won't be "pour it out with a warning", but "Pour it out, here's your ticket".
(2) Drugs (including cannabis) are illegal in Nevada. Do it and get caught, see #1 above.
(3) Use discretion in all things. For example, you walk up to a BLM ranger reeking of a splifff and a pocket full of baggie, don't be surprised to get rousted. Don't walk around tthe City openly toking on a fattie. Don't ask some stranger if he wants to buy some (or do some) 'shrooms (and commerce is a no-no, anyway!)... If you look underage and are openly drinking the man may ask you for your ID (which in Nevada you *must* produce, unlike some other states).

BTW, some undercover cops out there look like them. Others look way too cool to be cops. Be aware...

Bottom line - If you wouldn't do it at home, it's probably not too wise to do it at your "other" home!

Hugs and happy trails..
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Post by ZaphodBurner » Tue Nov 15, 2005 4:07 pm

Bay Bridge Sue wrote: Bottom line - If you wouldn't do it at home, it's probably not too wise to do it at your "other" home!

Hugs and happy trails..
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Sucks that this is told to a Canadian coming to America. We are, after all, the land of the free...

Speaking of, I understand that according to San Francisco law, all criminals, robbers, rapists, murderers, dealers, pimps, crackheads, carjackers and crimelords must turn in their handguns along with Aunt Millie and Uncle Bob by April. I'm sure they're all lining right up to do that.

(*tangent grenade*)

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Post by Lassen Forge » Tue Nov 15, 2005 4:35 pm

ZaphodBurner wrote:
Bay Bridge Sue wrote: Bottom line - If you wouldn't do it at home, it's probably not too wise to do it at your "other" home!

Hugs and happy trails..
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Sucks that this is told to a Canadian coming to America. We are, after all, the land of the free...
No joke... well, at one time it wasn't a joke... the land of the free bit...
ZaphodBurner wrote: Speaking of, I understand that according to San Francisco law, all criminals, robbers, rapists, murderers, dealers, pimps, crackheads, carjackers and crimelords must turn in their handguns along with Aunt Millie and Uncle Bob by April. I'm sure they're all lining right up to do that.

(*tangent grenade*)

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Post by Sean » Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:17 pm

[quote]Speaking of, I understand that according to San Francisco law, all criminals, robbers, rapists, murderers, dealers, pimps, crackheads, carjackers and crimelords must turn in their handguns along with Aunt Millie and Uncle Bob by April. I'm sure they're all lining right up to do that.

(*tangent grenade*)
[/quote]

Wouldnt that violate your second amendment rights?

Also would someone be kind enough to inform me of the tobacco laws in the U.S.?

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Post by Sean » Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:18 pm

[quote]Speaking of, I understand that according to San Francisco law, all criminals, robbers, rapists, murderers, dealers, pimps, crackheads, carjackers and crimelords must turn in their handguns along with Aunt Millie and Uncle Bob by April. I'm sure they're all lining right up to do that.

(*tangent grenade*)
[/quote]

Wouldnt that violate your second amendment rights?

Also would someone be kind enough to inform me of the tobacco laws in the U.S.?

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Post by Sean » Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:23 pm

sorry for the double post ive been having all sorts of problems with my internet lately

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Post by Lassen Forge » Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:01 pm

Smoking laws - as remember it's 18 in all states now. Used to vary but now it doesn't. That's for Tobacco. The other stuff isn't. Legal. Anywhere. In BRC. Because it's Federal land. And the feds say so...

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Post by Sean » Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:08 pm

Also would someone that drives across the border give me some tips on how to avoid being hasseled by the guards? (I dont care if I get searched I won't be transporting contraband but I have heard if you get searched and they see burning man stuff in the car they will sometimes deny you entry)

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Post by Sean » Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:58 am

Also does anyone know if they need any unskilled volunteer labour or do they usually have that taken care of?

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Post by HughMungus » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:47 am

Sean wrote:Also would someone that drives across the border give me some tips on how to avoid being hasseled by the guards? (I dont care if I get searched I won't be transporting contraband but I have heard if you get searched and they see burning man stuff in the car they will sometimes deny you entry)
Who the hell told you this? It's bullshit.
It's what you make it.

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Post by Lassen Forge » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:17 pm

How about reading the burningman.com website? Click the "volunteer" link hidden thereon.

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