The Bar

Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:02 pm

<<<s*m*a*c*K*>>> Hey, Fishy! Kisses to you, too.

Zoom · Post by **Zoom** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:36 pm

hi evryone, i keep seeing these flying pigs decided to share the photo with you guys. ruff day in desperate need of jager.

Kinetic IV · Post by **Kinetic IV** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:46 pm

It's a rough day alright. But at least over here after having it handed to me I get to add some and kick some back.

Vitamin T shots for all!!!

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:08 pm

Oh dear, pigs are flying. Better dump some everclear in my pagopago.

tisha2 · Post by **tisha2** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:16 pm

<stumbles in the back door, depleted and shellshocked>

drink...?

Rob the Wop · Post by **Rob the Wop** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:16 pm

tisha2 wrote:<stumbles in the back door, depleted and shellshocked>

drink...?

Hiya hot schtuff. Long time no see.

Mozy bonz · Post by **Mozy bonz** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:47 pm

stumbles in the back door, depleted and shellshocked>

drink...?

Say when?

Watchnc · Post by **Watchnc** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:00 pm

can you pour me one of those too please Mozy?

Mozy bonz · Post by **Mozy bonz** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:05 pm

can you pour me one of those too please Mozy?

Yes I can! How are you today?

Mozy bonz · Post by **Mozy bonz** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:11 pm

Anyone know where the flying-pigs came from?

Watchnc · Post by **Watchnc** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:24 pm

Anyone know where the flying-pigs came from?

Zoom brought the first one in and musta left the door open. Thanks for the drink.

Yes I can! How are you today?

I'm here...that's about it. You?

Mozy bonz · Post by **Mozy bonz** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:33 pm

I'm here...that's about it. You?

((((Watchnc)))) more jameson?

we need the flying monkey to chase them out. hey fishy let that monkey out.

I am off my morning job now in my studio having a real drink just like this.

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:38 pm

(Falls from the rafters directly onto Watchnc’s head like a bean-bag hat... all four legs draped down and limp)

What’s up?

Mozy bonz · Post by **Mozy bonz** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:41 pm

(Falls from the rafters directly onto Watchnc’s head like a bean-bag hat... all four legs draped down and limp)

snack? beer?

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:47 pm

Mmmmmm.... snacks and beer!!!

(Slowly starts to slide off Watchnc’s head, down onto her shoulders, rolls down her arm and onto the bar top)

Thanks, man!!

How are you today?

Ranger Genius · Post by **Ranger Genius** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:50 pm

Chat: know anything about bicycle or wheelchair hubs, or welding bicycle tubing?

Mozy bonz · Post by **Mozy bonz** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:52 pm

hey RG drink?

How are you today

?

I am good.

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:53 pm

Holy Crap, Genius... How the hell are you? Long time no read. Was just over on the mysteria forums earlier. Looks like I’ll be going to Transformus this year.

And um... most likely could help you out. Firstly, are you welding tubing actually from a bicycle? Or a similarly sized mild steel?

I've worked with bicycle hubs a good bit too, what would you like to know?

Ranger Genius · Post by **Ranger Genius** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:56 pm

I saw your post there. there's a pic there in the "life in pictures" thread of what I'm working on.

I plan to use actual bicycle components chopped up to make a trike, since a lot of what I need is prefabricated that way.

The problem I have is side-loading on regular bicycle hubs. Tends to bend the axles and break the bearings. I need something wider with a capacity to take a larger axle than the typical 10mm.

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:05 pm

I’ll go take a look. I built a trailer for my bike and had to make sure both ends of the axles were supported. I’ll send along a pic if needed, but let me look at it first.

As far as welding is concerned:

If you were actually making a bicycle frame that might be used to go very fast or see actually mountain/road use, then you’d need to use a high chromium/high nickle rod and TIG weld it. Bike tubing is Chromoly steel with is lighter and stronger than the equivalent mild steel. I state that for the benefit of anyone else who might come along and read this.

For your situation (and I'm assuming playa vehicle here), I’d say using a MIG would be the best bet. Stick will blow it full of holes. Use a standard ER-70S wire (the most common type sold) and you should be fine.

Ranger Genius · Post by **Ranger Genius** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:11 pm

Good thing, because a 90-amp MIG welder is what I've got. AntiM's Larry and I just got it at Harbor Freight. Think I, as an inexperienced welder, can do a good enough job to hold my 200 lbs distributed over three wheels?

Ranger Genius · Post by **Ranger Genius** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:16 pm

For the rest of you, here's what I'm talking about.

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:17 pm

Practice first for a bit on some similar sized stuff or even scraps of the same tubing. Leave a small gap between the two piece you are welding. Like just a little more than the wire diameter.

I'm working on a post to show how I did the bike trailer. It'll work for you, assuming you can't find a bigger hub...

Alright with you if I post it in the "Wheeled Vehicle" thread of this board for the benefit of others?

Ranger Genius · Post by **Ranger Genius** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:21 pm

That would be great. I've been finding some info about places I can buy hubs built to take the side load, but they're pricey (200 bucks). I think I can get wheel chair wheels for less, then cannibalize the hubs and have them build into 18 or 20-inch wheels for the front. They should be able to take the torsion.

Ranger Genius · Post by **Ranger Genius** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:22 pm

Sorry, kids. Looks like I broke the h-scroll there.

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:28 pm

Yikes!!! I’ve got to make a reality camp beer run!!! See yall later...

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:42 pm

Here you go RG...

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 070#209070

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:12 pm

Hey all. Wow the satellite data reveals the earlier presence of Tisha and RtW.

Got any of that beer yet LCN?

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:30 pm

Guess that store run is taking a while.

OK...time to climb up to the top shelf and rescue a bottle of laphroaig that's calling my name.

Ranger Genius · Post by **Ranger Genius** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:35 pm

laphroaig?