What are women about, really?

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:02 am

If girls are made of "sugar n' spice and everything nice then woman are, overweight, diabetic, smell from too much perfume and fake their orgasms!

Just shaking my puppy dog tail!!!

AIIZ

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:53 am

quote="SED"]Any more stories and observations about controlled sexuality?[/quote]
Behind the barnyard veil, that's what Big Cock's all about."

Well, the truth has finally come to light. The banter of the bantam isn't so innocent after all.

Maybe flirting and inuendo could be considered another level of intercourse.
Talking is communication without much emotional content.
Sex is real high on the emotion content but low on talking.
Flirting and inuendo is in between.
Possibly the woman mentioned in the first message wanted to engage in emotion charged intercourse without actually being unfaithful to her husband "her touch was warm and lingering"

She knows how to get gratification without actually cheating. I've met people like this. It's great. I cue in, say my lines well and play my appointed role. We both leave with a warm feeling and have something to laugh about later.
I've never interpreted it as a seduction, just some innocent gratification,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,advanced flirting.
Flirting is often a way to test the waters without actually putting your ego on the line. I like flirtacious women.
I think that women would do it more if men wouldn't misinterpret their intentions,,,,just a little innocent gratification.
Dan

PrincessCharming · Post by **PrincessCharming** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:20 am

I'm still in, I'm still in.. 'Tanks, Mozy, SED and BC.. I appreciate this thread because it seems a unique opportunity to have some serious and frank discussion.. BC, can't sit still, you're right, a lot of the behavior that I don't know what to do with is like a little kid acting out in a big nasty adult body.. Which makes me think about what sort of DISCIPLINE is necessary to the situation.. (slap upside the head..? justing kidding, just kidding.. well maybe a verbal one?) No, what I'd like to do in such situations is respond in a way that is constructive and clear about boundaries and hopefully a learning experience for all involved. For example, I could have asked that guy on the art car what in the world made him think it was okay to asy that to me... just to see if he would have had any kind of answer. I think a lot of women "laugh off" that kind of thing, pretending it's some kind of joke, or are rendered speechless like myself, and the guys never learn.. never question their own behavior.

Re: "controlled sexuality", I'm in agreement about the flirting. It's extremely enjoyable and disarming when people communicate their interest and admiration in a playful AND respectful way. But you're right, I tend not to be this way with men a lot because I'm worried it will be misconstrued.

BigCock · Post by **BigCock** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:43 am

can't sit still wrote:The banter of the bantam isn't so innocent after all.

Cute.
And you know it.

the fire elf · Post by **the fire elf** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:26 pm

Well, care to shed a little light? Because you seem pretty unconcerned with how your words might affect some women, which is contrary to your professed "love" for them. When you said, "I love women," I thought you were referring to all women, not just some.

i'm unconcerned in general...i consider it part of my spiritual path...

and that doesn't contradict my amorousness towards members of the opposite sex...i consider it an enhancement of it...

there are levels and degrees of female consciousness...some are attractive to me, some are repulsive...but they are all fragments of a transcendental woman whom i love...

the fire elf · Post by **the fire elf** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:32 pm

PrincessCharming wrote:Referring to me as a "finger-warmer" isn't gonna do it. Go back to guru school.. have a great trip.

aww, isn't that cute...you took it personally...

guru school 101:

don't take it personally

PrincessCharming · Post by **PrincessCharming** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:30 pm

"aww, isn't that cute...you took it personally..."

:)
Not quite, Elf.. just spelling something out for you that should have been obvious. Whether you intended it or not, you've declared yourself quite well. You are indeed a different being in your own world than mine, I'm sure. The thought is giving me quite a giggle actually..! :D Thanks for that.

Now, about the perfume and orgasms.. I agree about anybody wearing way too much smelly stuff (including those guys who overdo the cologne). It's much nicer when you get someone's real scent (so long as they bathe regularly), or a hint of something when you're standing close enough to them to get their warmth (yow).

However, if the women are faking the orgasms, there's somethin wrong with that!! I'd be questioning my technique, if I were you.. or asking for coaching? Which is totally okay to do by the way.. generally I think a woman would prefer to be asked than have somebody assuming away in the wrong direction..

.. hey, speaking of which, where did all the girls go? Am I it? Darn.

the fire elf · Post by **the fire elf** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:06 pm

PrincessCharming wrote: You are indeed a different being in your own world than mine, I'm sure. The thought is giving me quite a giggle actually..! Thanks for that.

well, good luck in yours...

giggling is good...

let's leave it at that.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:55 am

Ok,

So Sed wont like me posting in his thread with my bad spelling and all.......a bunch of folk might not........but this thread has cracked me up from begining to end.

From what I understand, (and I will make this very short.) the title is "What are women about, really? "

I find a major diffrence between women and girls. (to a certain extent.)

I find Women a lot more complicated than what I have read so far.

It's all fab.

If I am somewhat wise I will be quite for awhile and shall leave it at that.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:56 am

I forgot,

Sed has me on ignore.

This should be fun.

freakersedge · Post by **freakersedge** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:45 am

What are women about? Everytime one chases me and I let her win, the celebration includes us both, so, there is some need to analyze? Women talk for comfort, men talk for solutions. Lets all sit in a circle, share our comfort meds and see who has the best laugh, analyze that!

freakersedge · Post by **freakersedge** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:01 am

One day I was sitting at a feeder road stop sign, there was a break in the traffic flow, but this plain Jane needed to cross in front of me, I motioned her accross and she gave me the most beautiful sashay I think I ever have seen; thats the elan we all strive for, so are women that much of a mystery?
freake

CagedKitty · Post by **CagedKitty** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:55 am

Women are more complicated than girls, because they go through cycles of protecting themselves by turning off their sexuality, or their emotions, or their competence. When they get too much attention, or have put themselves out too far, they turn one off for a while to recover, till they get lonely and have to risk it again. Being a woman is like walking around with a plate of food and if they don't share it with someone, they are hated.

PrincessCharming · Post by **PrincessCharming** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:16 am

That's a pretty good analogy, CK.. depending on who you're dealing with.. A lot of it has to do with maturation level too I think. My freakishly attractive friend has acquired some very good male friends who have just been content to be around her loveliness and get to know her. They are fantastic fellows. Many more have not been content with that. But let's face it.. women can be immature too sometimes. Somebody said it, sometimes it's just like a big school yard out there. There's lots of opportunities for growth or regression. Everyone has their moments I guess, when they're feeling threatened or rejected. It's too bad when people project their own ego issues onto others and then treat them accordingly..

the fire elf · Post by **the fire elf** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:31 am

PrincessCharming wrote:A lot of it has to do with maturation level too I think.

recently i've been finding myself involved with older women...early to mid thirties seems to hold a class of female maturity that compliments my way of being...

mid twenties myself, i feel like i'm tapping into relationships that afford a little more depth than relating to someone who would drag me of to a backstreet boys concert (been there, done that, not impressed...)

this could still be generalizing, of course...i've heard some souls are enlightened from birth, and social anomalies of all ages are intriguing (though legally it's best if they're over 18)...

the fire elf · Post by **the fire elf** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:34 am

the fire elf wrote:18)...

wow, a smiley snuck up on me...

1 8 )...

(what a sneaky smiley)

freakersedge · Post by **freakersedge** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:32 pm

what women are about is they know they make dufuses out of us guys and power currupts, absolute power currupts absolutely. Is there a happy medium somewhere?

Utopia is just the other side of that playa serpent, comere little princess, let me show you...

freake.

the fire elf · Post by **the fire elf** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:39 pm

freakersedge wrote:Is there a happy medium somewhere?

yeah, i think she's going on tour...

http://www.ramtha.com/

HughMungus · Post by **HughMungus** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:30 am

SED wrote:BM is largely about pushing boundaries and taking risks with sexuality.

The former, yes. The latter, only as a subset of the former but it's not THAT big a piece of the pie.

freakersedge · Post by **freakersedge** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:48 am

One issue of BM is that its about confrontation on every level, thats why we like it so much, we are forcing ourselves to grow. So, should a discussion room of the participants be less confrontational? Some of us are incredibly cold at the same time seeking to let our warmth be shared and we should let hurt feelings keep us as outsiders? we know our families love us, so were not really outsiders but can we not keep the rush alive in everyday awarenesses?

I was deeply touched by the insight shared earlier by the princess, its obviosly evident that shim is working on many different levels constantly and I offered the trip beyond the playa serpent as purely more exploration of the levels. I used to astral travel and while I learned much I was always struck by the aloneness out there and here we can do so much more but not alone. In this light, on the subject of what one should do when one is dumbfounded; push the envelope back at them. Realize that in their animal mind they are seeking to compliment you, and bring them back to humanity. It can be done without returning a response on the same level. Growth is what public nudity is about so put some thought into it. Again, if you want help, meet me the other side of the playa serpent.
freake

freakersedge · Post by **freakersedge** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:23 pm

Princess,

One of the things I learned early was that if I chased, I never won, but testosterone requires one. Its a real boondoggle, how does a man approach a creature that has thousands of defenses up and thousands of allies that will crush you if you upset it? Oh, their human and respond to the same things us guys do? Perhaps those guys who talk to themselves in the mirror perfecting their image aren't crazy... thats why you wear make-up, right? the opportunity to talk to yourself.

freaker

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:40 pm

Gee, Scott did it with a few sweet appreciative jokes about my hairy body. And I don't wear makeup--to expensive in time and money. Of course I get so little attention that maybe that explains why I was such a push over for Scott. Or maybe not.

Kinetic IV · Post by **Kinetic IV** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:45 pm

Not meaning any offense Fishy but perhaps Scott was attracted to your appearance but even more attracted to your personality and spirit. It's not only looks that makes for a strong and happy relationship.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:02 pm

No offense taken K. And there was a reciprocation there. Scott would never have babbled that stuff about chasing and Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus crapola! i.e. he got that we were people first, men and women second.

Dustbuddy · Post by **Dustbuddy** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:11 pm

They're about 5'7" and 130 lbs. Anybody not within 1" and 2 lbs. of this is just faking it, regardless of what those silly DNA tests say. Just thought I'd clear that up for you.

SED wrote:At a recent party I met an extremely attractive woman. She seemed unattached and was drinking heavily. She was touchy and flirty with me and though I tried not to talk much about myself, she seemed to hang on every word I spoke as though I was fascinating. She wanted me to drink more and she took my hand and poured wine into my glass, her touch warm and lingering. ...

Any thoughts?

Yes. Body language is a great topic for selling books and encouraging people to make snap judgements, but 99% of what is said and written about it is a pile of ethnocentric BS or even worse, a product of somebody else's overactive imagination. We all carry ourselves physically in our own ways, and even what passes for the norm in such things varies wildly from culture to culture - and the US has never been a monocultural society. What to you may seem "flirty" may to another person or another people just seem friendly.

Try not to rush into judgement, especially when others encourage you to do so, as those will usually be the very people who most often confuse their own prejudices with insight. The beginning of all understanding is to be found in the words "I don't know".

HughMungus · Post by **HughMungus** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:14 pm

Dustbuddy wrote:The beginning of all understanding is to be found in the words "I don't know".

Thank you.

PrincessCharming · Post by **PrincessCharming** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:20 pm

"I was deeply touched by the insight shared earlier by the princess, its obviosly evident that shim is working on many different levels constantly and I offered the trip beyond the playa serpent as purely more exploration of the levels."

Freake.. don't really understand. I read the first post about the playa serpent and thought it was probably intended as a joke..? I know it can be a generational thing, the flavour one lends to inter-gender communications.. I may be out of range for that to land as intended.. it sounded like you were pretending to "threaten" me, or "teach me a lesson" to which I would reply (to return the twinkle in your eye), that you might be surprised to find the "little" princess unleashing six feet of whoop-ass on your hide. Otherwise, I'm afraid I don't get it..

I appreciate that you were touched by what I wrote.. As for working on different levels, sure I do.. but I'm not clear on how that relates to what you were saying about the playa snake thing. About your other comments, what I get is that you sometimes feel disempowered by women or the "chase" sometimes..? It's all to do with perception I believe. I don't believe women can turn men into doofuses.. what is that saying about no one can make an ass of themselves but themselves? Maybe it's more like what you seem to describe.. men feeling somehow threatened by women (by what: their beauty/sexiness=power, which somehow=vulnerability and threat? fear of not being "good enough?") and then needing to compensate for the vulnerability (which stems from an internal ego issue, totally apart and separate from the woman) and make a big show of dominance or "strength" which is actually unwarranted and then understandably seen as obnoxious.. so they end up feeling like doofuses and then blaming that on the women? Classic situation of perceived threat prompting defensive reaction which lands as offensive attack to the other, which is unaware of having presented any "threat", prompting defensive or avoidant reaction, leading to further escalation or mutual frustration.. blah blah.. Whata mess! So many opportunities for confusion. Would be so much simpler if we didn't have to translate all the time. This is why I don't mind talking this issue to death. Well, or till we all get totally sick of it. Looks like we've lost a few..

Dustbuddy · Post by **Dustbuddy** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:20 pm

HughMungus wrote:
Dustbuddy wrote:The beginning of all understanding is to be found in the words "I don't know".
Thank you.

You're welcome.

the fire elf · Post by **the fire elf** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:22 pm

Dustbuddy wrote:The beginning of all understanding is to be found in the words "I don't know".

the end of all frustration lies beyond the phrase "i don't care".

Dustbuddy · Post by **Dustbuddy** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:26 pm

the fire elf wrote:
Dustbuddy wrote:The beginning of all understanding is to be found in the words "I don't know".
the end of all frustration lies beyond the phrase "i don't care".

How so?

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