Any Desert Attire photos floating around out there?

Time Con Fig U R 8 · Post by **Time Con Fig U R 8** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 5:13 pm

IN between this, here and now -yet, inside so many other worlds is this and now-Where is here?

Beyond in between too many outsides underneath is the absoloution of grandure in between Great Voids' Abyss-

Under is neither cold nor dark yet, it is eye opening-

projections' of newtons theory prismatic color spectrums dance in eisteins' fire traveled destinies of holographic swarpdagglers-----
Visualiaze Peace

RebA! · Post by **RebA!** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 5:21 pm

Let me be the first one to ask ...

HUH?

Time Con Fig U R 8 · Post by **Time Con Fig U R 8** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 5:45 pm

Life flows to us from the upperworld; so also does death, for death is the doorway to greater life....

Each people on earth has its own view if the world, its own thhought about how many parts of the universe fit together. These world views are not constant picturess, but are always unfolding , enlarging , and changing as human beings gain new understandings or lose old opinions. Of what is said or preached much remains conjecture.

Look at the universe now and what you thought as a child. Quite a change, isnt' it? It has been a long road from the days when men such as Galileo and Giordano Bruno were persecuted for daring assert that the earth is not the center of the universe, to today's intense interest in planetery exploration. Even in science, much speculative--theory is only theory, and conjecture is still the first step of any new advance. It is characteristic of science to continue exploring and thinking about something until conclusive proof or disproof can be obtained.
To Be Continued.......

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 6:35 pm

RebA! wrote:Let me be the first one to ask ...

HUH?

ok now i'm 2nd
and call me slow.

huh?

J · Post by J » Thu Oct 16, 2003 8:20 pm

Maybe it's because I'm special, small bus and helmet type of special. But i'm going to throw my name on the list.

Huh?

Lydia Love · Post by **Lydia Love** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 8:23 pm

I'll expand on that.

Whatchoo talkin 'bout???

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 8:28 pm

i dont think we can even call this one a bad thread.

rodent · Post by **rodent** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 8:53 pm

Please...

put the bong down...

and slowly step away...

Time Con Fig U R 8 · Post by **Time Con Fig U R 8** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 10:14 am

In the heart of an individual, the world view must rest with personel opinion and beleief, which most often derived from religious perspective. In the modern Christian world, there are many views. There are many views:some believe in multi layered heaven, some beleive that earth is transitory and will soon be replaced, others Don't beleive men ever left the earth and visited the moon....there is no end to the variety of beleifs held. What about Ancient Creeks and those of us who still live in Tradition?
(Peoples removed or forced out due to Beleifs, Spirituality and way of life-

Peoples who remained were taken as slaves, forced onto reservations, hair cut, stripped of pride, and not given a choice-rapid cultural changes a major set back to American Indians whose blood runs thick...to all cultures...(These Peoples are the original Pyramid Dwellars here in North America before Egypt-)

Souls Beginnings Dogstar Sirius-Life Atlantis(birth of humans? Mammals?-Manatee were once land dwellars(Aborigne- and Evolution, Dolphin communicators of Atlantis, Whales- Record Keepers of Ancients(Olive Shells-recently dregged here on the Gulf coast ,99% Quartz ,sugary white beaches-are known to hold Ancient writings. Could These beaches literally be the beginnings of North American Indians, After Fall of Atlantis?-Beginnings of North american Indians- Aborigne(Shaman), Native American Indian, Mayan, Indians, African, Egyptian, German, Ect.....
German Language has been derived by this language, however, I have noticed this Ancient Language has all languages interwoven...
The surfacing of this language has been tricky due to awakening Ancient Shamans, opening wounds, tainted beliefs of some peoples of today-due to religion, upbringings, thought process-Ie: Racism- Lack of knowledge and aknowlegements of universal connections....
Peoples pathways to freedom become broken, as Ancient languages were broken and used due to beliefs, cultures... I call this power hunger force do to Superstisious Fear based Consciousnes. Basically, The Unexplainable of the Great Void, became interpreted while facing fears(rabbit medicine)during planet shifting Growing pains of evolutionery changes.....Ect
There are many articles about Creeks world view,but they often miss what is important and dwell on small things--the unusual or supposebly "savage. There are often(always?) misinterpretaions and distortions( check archive www.crystalinks.com -Hidden Secrets 6.09.02- The program? Birth of the New Age? Hinderences were found in this one-
For example-Past life issues agression were addressed in conspiricey which were no longer importance , other than for authors' to write more books about no nothing-ness( Zen swami shaman transceder opened my eyes to)past historical mistakes which only seem to weigh New Age beleifs down, forcing ebbing or blockage releasing frequencies bats can relate to. and waken other species as well...for instence White tiger attack?
While it is amusing to read some of this, the humor quickley disappears when one realiazes how ridicoulous traditions are made to seem, and genuine harm such misinformation of one sided or close minded views can do. LET THE INTERESTED READER SEEK OUT BOOKS AND CHAPTERS ON THIS SUBJECT<But, in this documentation the original author with my understanding/expereince/interpretaion would like to put forth these classes(origions of schools of mystery?). You are not asked to beleive,(AWaken Call , my own views , and beliefs, desceased anscestors , and desceased decendants, power shields, animal totems.. sucked me into mystical, supernatural, paranormal Ect....With the words-FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE? Catapulted me directly into other worlds which I had seen before, however, now as an individual, was forced to be reminded due to universal chaos(misinterpretaions and focus on past weighted henderances, I will not waste any space or time - due to historical mistakes already preceding over the ages, Ect... I have become more than aware of higher powers, consciousness, spirituality, beliefs, ect......due to abilities to explain unexplainable...Heed my warning this is a narrow path, not to be taken lightly-The reality of Ancients waking in this time is not found in any book nor is it a painless or easy path, or simple adjustment to ones' psyche)but, only to understand that Creek world is indeed valid for some people, and has been valid for many peoples for thousands+ of years(understanding, forgivness, taking responsiblity for ownership of ones' self and Ones' souls path seems to be the key) . By now, if you have been studying the language, You need to be aware of the subtleties of Creek that cannot be rendered into English.(language paradox? Visualize World Peace-Change your way of thinking in the New World-No negativity(disease)Stop the hatred and get away from random acts of kindeness-Positive flows of energy Transcend Space and Time.........Spread love and take the tinme to write down your pain, dislikes, negativity= Heathly venting releases negative sheaths or veils layers of the soul, making space for celestial beautiful souls in this Golden Dawning New Age, NEw World Layers...ECt...For all the beuty of the English language, it is cumbersome in some ways; nevertheless, we must use it here(very tricky -coyote medicine-this writing prophect divine wisdom enveloped in the destruction of self prophsized fufillment, of peoples based on how we have chosen to live in this lifetime and how we have chosen to treat one another as humans(all living breathing evolving beings) Those of you who eat meat are not being forced to change your diet-Give thanks to this kind loving animal for the offering of its sustenace to nurious your body, warm your skin, the aniaml soul and spirit returns, same as to plants for those of you who are gifted in sacred healing....
Animal Spirits(four legged, two legged, and winged creatures, ect...Choose us same as plant Gods , spirits, Ect.....
All elements of the planets are speaking to us through vibrations, weather patterns, astmospheric conditions, enviormental discords, ect...
Most , but not all, of my community beleive in three worlds. The uppermost world is perfect. It is FAther Spirit, Master of Breath, The Creator. This World has no phhysical attribute: it is a world of Power. "Power is the key word. It is impersonal power( the ability to detache or seperate ones' self -For Example- addressing an issue or conflict without personel attachment--- i will continue this later........

Keep in mind Sacred places Are like sponges and absorb every living breathing piece of energy- Thought processes of individuals
Also, stirring and openings of buriel sight s and tombs without preparation of Holy Peoples(medicine peoples). These are people with encoded knowledge and Wisdom not taght in any local university or found in any book.
Due to souls' path, timelines of birth, native American Bloodlines , DNA Encoding,understanding of connections,honor , respect<ect... This is FutureS' today , yet tommorrow we bring....To Be Continued.....[/list]

Crankful · Post by **Crankful** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 10:22 am

You have way to much time on your hands or have found a way to stop time!

some many snowflakes to catch and so little time before they melt

Time Con Fig U R 8 · Post by **Time Con Fig U R 8** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 12:53 pm

It is neither good nor bad, only impersonel. It would help if you thought of this power as raw electricity,which is also an impersonel power. Another word that can be used in English is "LOVE"--impersonel, all giving, non judging love. This world is spiritual world, the upperworld. This world is incapable of personel relationship with anything, for it is the nature of this world to radiate equally into all things. If personal relationships are to exist for us, they must be established from this middle world where human beings dwell, toward the upperworld. It is our world that initiates, maintains, fufills, and concludes that relationship with impersonel. Life and death comes to us without specisl regard for any.
Life flows to us from the upperworld; so does death, for death is the doorway to greater life.
Two worlds: Father Spirit, and our middle world. The third is the underworld, the bottom -most place, the place of darkness, cold, and dampness. It is here where "things go bump in the night." Although this world can be expressed pysically, that is with images drawn from physical world, it is largely spiritual conception too Where the uppermost world is expressed or at least described as a realm of light, the undermost world is thought of as pure darkness.In that darkness, chaos and disorder foment. It is a cauldron of upheaving negativism. It promotes nothing but disorder, pain, ignorance. Its power is the power of the upperworld, but its the power of the disordered, uncontrollable. All the characteristics of the upperworld --order,balance, harmony, and restraint--have here been lost. Like the upperworld, the underworld is impersonel, exerting influence equally to all things. Most beleive that it too is without form, substance, or other mearurable characteristics or attributes.

The upperworld, the underworld, and then this in-between world of ours. We can call our world the "almost real "world. It is everything that is, was, or will( It is "our" world, but human beings are not at the center). It is the world of 'BEINGS" of those things that have measurable attributes--form substance, purpose, and place.. To Be Continued.........

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 1:27 pm

Crankful wrote:You have way to much time on your hands or have found a way to stop time!

some many snowflakes to catch and so little time before they melt

man and people talk about my posts.

please please please take rodent's advise

rodent wrote:Please...

put the bong down...

and slowly step away...

jbelson · Post by **jbelson** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 2:28 pm

Time Con Fig U R 8 · Post by **Time Con Fig U R 8** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 2:44 pm

People Of One Fire-
The upperworld, the underworld, and then this in between world of ours. We can call our world the "Almost real world". It is everything that is, was , or will be.(It is our world, but human beings are not at the center). It is the world of "beings" of those things that have measurble attributes--for, substance, purpose, and place. By itself, with nothing from either the upperworld or lower world, it is only a physical world without animation. It is cold, unmoving, unknowing, static every way. One characteristic of the uppermost world is its giving of energy, or love or light or whatever word you are comfortable with. OUr world is the reciever-world; it soaks up these things.
Our purpose in life is to seek balanceand harmony in this life that is, to travel lifes' road in moderation. We are precariously balance between uppper and lower world.
Each world exerts influence on us; both co exist equally in the same place
Problems we will no longer face_Non Indian writers who are unable to deal with Animal transference and spirit animals being recieved.
As a proud woman warrior, recieving Shields, warrior, chief totems has not been an easy task due to misunderstandings and interpretaion of how animal totems are recieved.
Spirit animals do not become your own by just reading about them in a book
The physical exchange can be painful and extremly confusing...This is without searching and taking life- For example 4 horses Struck by lightening All spirits passed through meTo be continued.........

jbelson · Post by **jbelson** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 2:51 pm

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 2:59 pm

jbelson,

i think they are on the red pill.

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 4:58 pm

Souls Beginnings Dogstar Sirius-Life Atlantis(birth of humans? Mammals?-Manatee were once land dwellars(Aborigne- and Evolution, Dolphin communicators of Atlantis, Whales- Record Keepers of Ancients(Olive Shells-recently dregged here on the Gulf coast ,99% Quartz ,sugary white beaches-are known to hold Ancient writings.

Cites?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs.

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 5:17 pm

Flux can Time Con Fig U R 8 borrow this?

Flux · Post by **Flux** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 6:08 pm

DE FACTO wrote:Flux can Time Con Fig U R 8 borrow this?

Absolutely! I think s/he needs it much more than I do.

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 7:05 pm

Tease but don't scare away.

<pulling up a chair, taking out the binocular>

aforceforgood · Post by **aforceforgood** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 8:38 pm

Your aptitude test shows that the occupation you are most suited for is either david koresh, homeless crystal licking guy, or chainsaw wielding leprechaun.

tingtangwallawallabingbang!

Raheer · Post by **Raheer** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 1:21 am

It is official. This (wo)man is more warped than the USS Enterprise!

Raheer

Time Con Fig U R 8 · Post by **Time Con Fig U R 8** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 9:31 am

For death is the doorway to greater life.......
misery and negative opinions are a reflection of ones' self
In order to achieve grandure , we must ask questions , not attack for which we do not understand......

Awaken to illuminations of each progression in your life , your destinies fortune is your souls code and offering
Pure love and light in each breathe we take on journies through life, you decide your fate........by each day...
Geniue kindness comes from the heart
In your own misery you express pain
Positive suggestions for healthy venting
Take the time to write down dislikes , negative thoughts ,pain, ect....
Take the time to write down Happiness, hopes , dreams, goals, ect... that you would like to accomplish before you die
Burn away Negativity-bury positive ideas in a water bottle
Or follow your instincts... We just don't need A bunch of plastic bottles floating in the oceans'and washing up on beaches...........

Forgive the emptiness within your soul
greates gifts lie within Creation source
Yo SoY A Creator is the pathway to Richness within!Visualiaze Peace Signs of symbology- no compounds for me..I refer FREE Will-FREEDOM!!!!!!! SYMBOLOISIST That I AM-

Isotopia · Post by **Isotopia** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 9:51 am

"I know and accept the universal law that sharing my opinions with others draws more abundance to me – even when those opinions are negative towards folks with baseless and silly views of our world. "

Time Con Fig U R 8 · Post by **Time Con Fig U R 8** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:40 am

Each world Exerts INfluence on us-both co-exzist equally in the same Place...

Deconstruction of NoN-Indian writers is one sided. Inability to adjust to responsibility
For every Being in the world whether from the celestial stars-mammals, , animal ,birds, reptiles, humanb, or anything else-that has FORMM, substance, PURPOSE, PLace---each must feel sense of responsibility in its relationship for its own actions, and sense of responsibility in its relationship with other beings. This middle world we live in is the sharing world.
World VIEW_ Percieving and THINKING AROUND US

In this language book ( Native American) portions of this documentation, which I will admit has taken me time to absorb and understand(I had to re read this, break down sections due to its COYOTE Medicine previous WRiter-For those of you unaware of Coyote Medicine and its relation to Shamanism-Coyote is the TRIXER or DEvil,Coyote Loves to play with RAven medicine people who are not beholdent of Black Panther medicine
These animals spirits are not in ownership
Taking life from any animal to gain a totem is BAT MEDICINE
These animals bless layers of there souls to Warriors, Shaman masters,, Chiefs, ECT....
Animal Totems are not bought or sold and taking life when giving thanks is not always your blessing
Animals spirits are destined to souls fate -Universal laws of cause and effect
Balance with the laws of nature and souls of animals......

In this language dictionery snakes are highly regarded as wisdom carriers . Perhaps that is because they are closest to the Underworld, but have far more eluded influence..Snakes do not seek out in order to bite YOU-Bite comes from entering in their space, where accidently or purposely-----Birds are closest to the Upperworld-explaining unique spiritual qualities
The Creation (from THE MUSKOGEE UNIVERSE -Eastern Creek Book- story tells of Turtle(earth mother medicine so, is the Manatee) diving and doing here good work. Perhaps it was the UNderworld she penetrated with her tasks.
If you examine each and every Tradition, Beleief, Or concept we holdin relation to three world view, our way becomed infinitely
clearer and very consistent in all the parts. Our Universe,as we know it, it is a very interesting place to be.
It is full of INtrigue, puzzles, warmth, and coldness(underworld is cold and damp). The intricate and delicate expressions of our language beautifully express it all.
In many ways , actually in all ways, The Square Ground is a reflection, a visible picture of this conceptuallization.
We hold interesting beleiefs. The Irish have nothing on us(anscestors as well relation to CELTIC-wiccan -withcraft-WE ARE THE ANCIENT PEOPLES BEGINNING OF SHAMANISM_RELATIONS AND CONNECTIONS TO ABORGINES ALREADY PROVEN AND DOCUmented( review if needed first paragraph)For those of you unfamilar with Alaska Shamans and witches , there were past conflicts( Native American book DAughters of the fire-(i think this is the name of the book. Woman Shaman Chiefs literally battled Woman Witches for power. These battles based on fear factor and superstisions Men had instilled in the woman due to there own fears. Medicine People, Superstisions, Traditions, Sexual orientation, ECt.....Today we realize the truths and there relations, Sorceress,Sorcer Shamanism, Yogis', SWami, Shaman Masters', Shaman Chiefs' ,Chiefs,, Gurus, ECT...OUR Akashic REcords is The TRUTH, Today is the beginning of your new life as your akashic records open (seen as specific color codings, open in moon phases, open in rhythmic flow, ECT.......)
This documentation is your life before birth in this lifetime, past, present, life, death, afterlife, Future, ECT......
There are no books written-This is Your souls Code ,Universal Codes, Dna Codes, ECT....-No one can take away WHO YOU ARE? Steps for new beginnings go beyond tracing family tree. For example EAstern Creek Indians are Blackfoot, Muskogeen(Muskogee)Choctaw, SEminole, and Cherokee. I have found Navajo,Apache, and many other tribes as wellto be affiliated with these peoples due to my anscestors and descendants pathway . Each and every one of these tribes began in different parts of the United States and Mexico. I am also Black Dutch-Olive-Skin with Blue Eyes-Flying Dutch(time travelers)Native and African American Mix
Also, Portuguese, Spanish, Irish, German, Ect..
Some Spanish and Scotch settlers were slave traders who kept Indians as slaves. Those who did not die or escape the force out of peoples became slaves.
This tension became apparent to me . I was married to a Scottish descedant and felt much of what appeared to be past life issues even with our families, ECT.........

Irish- Our world has little people just like thiersAnd there aare giants slao. Wonderful snake ties, watermonsters, laaughable rabbits full of tricks, and wisdom animalsand birds constantley teach us intricately involved.REmember:It is we human beings who seek out the spiritual and establish personel relationship.It is our character that establishes the quality of the other- world relationships. It is our Shamans who have visited the lower world and SURVIVED! It is they who speak with friends from the upperworld and seek thier guidance in all things.
It is woman who are the carriers of life, the co creators of life with Father Spirit, the all powereful impersonal force. It is we who determine how the power is used, how it is channeled, how it will flow and be felt in the world.
Yes, we must be responsible for beings! You cannot understand our world by studying just one part of it or copying just those parts which suit you personally. Ours is a whole made of three distinct parts. The weak may be easily influenced or motivated by lower world , and thus evil can come to pass. REmember each act of kindness Begins to reflect ones' soul.....Positive endeavors fuel eternal loving flames..The absolution of life is grandure.. T
The Intrigue of life is humorous fascination.....Within Laughter we heal the wounds of sorrow
Within pain we bury are sickness with our own instilled emotions
Freedom from the past is a possible pleasure...
Aliveate your pain by not feeding your anger to the world.....
If your fed anger...blow it in the wind..Find gratitude without allowing anger to feed off of you.........
Visualiaze Peace

Time Con Fig U R 8 · Post by **Time Con Fig U R 8** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 1:43 pm

The Creeks are called animists but, that is more wrong than right..
The non- Indian interpreters failed to see that we believe in the awesome, impersonal, beautiful power which is a whole entity....
.a oneness. They also failed to understand that that powercan be capable, in some way, of experiencing that power, expressing that power, and communicating that power. Who says Hawks, Eagles, Owls, rocks, mountains, fire tobacco, or anything else a can not be a participant in our spiritual expereinces? After all, FAther Spirit father spirit hides messages there for us to seek out. Sainthood is not limited to human beings.
Like. Likewise, these beings can and express that which is of dark world as well! Again, we must be responsible in our actions and seek the truth balance and harmony between the world of light and darkness! IT IS WE WHO COLOR OR GIVE QUALITY AND CHARACTER TO OUR EXPERIENCES.
The One we worship is TOTALLY and can be known in an infinity of ways.

It is in understanding that we learn patients within patients we are humble!

Everything we know or beleive is part if this consistent whole. Yet ourr non I-Indian neighbors, and our Indian neighbors who have given up older ways, are still struggling to unify thier world, to make sense out of it, to codify its many mysteries...to have an answer for everything. "Answers are not so important. It's the questions That make life interesting!?"

An empty shell falls to the floor
Shattering to pieces
Left at every door
Time drips in beneath the crevices
Filtering the light of better days to come
The shadows in the corridors are mysteries dance
Eternal fires' fueled by desires' flames
Prismatic dances in spectacles' illussions
Pieces of broken mirrors, reflections of wounded souls
Puzzles of indifference shattered !

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 1:51 pm

I understand what's going on now.

http://bbspot.com/News/2000/5/clock_rift.html

We need to figure out how to send you home.
You came through that Rift in Space-Time Continuum huh?
Well I guess you've come to the right place. The smartest minds in the world are with Burningman.

Hey guys. Who knows who is the best person to figure out a way to help this person out and get them back home?

Anyone know how to recreate a Rift in Space-Time Continuum ?

Flux · Post by **Flux** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 2:01 pm

DE FACTO wrote:Anyone know how to recreate a Rift in Space-Time Continuum ?

Not really, but I can do a good simulation with a bottle of tequila, a cattle prod, a handful of amanita muscaria, and a strobe light!

rodent · Post by **rodent** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 3:41 pm

ya know, the more he/she writes... the more I gotta say...

rodent wrote:Please...

put the bong down...

and slowly step away...

...but then on the other hand, this HAS been entertaining... Encourage insanity... 'cause Hollywood can't write this funny

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 3:46 pm

Reading this stuff is much better than what goes on at the dioxine list.

Any Desert Attire photos floating around out there?

Any Desert Attire photos floating around out there?

LIfe Flows to us from the upperworld; .....

Life Flows.... The Muskogee Universe-Eastern Creek Indians

HUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Muskogee Universe

Re: HUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Muskogee Universe-American Indians-REd Black and White

Life flows To Us from the upperworld;so also does /death...

The Muskogee Universe-People Of ONe Fire

Origin of Shamanism Continued....The Muskogee Universe