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And for the other side of the coin here is a link to a study by the French Food Safety Agency or AFSSA that says there's nothing wrong with Aspartame.
http://www.aspartame.net/OnPagePDF/Conc ... t_2002.pdf
Personally, I prefer sugar and make that cane sugar at that. Why use substitutes when there's nothing wrong with the real thing if one uses it in moderation.
http://www.aspartame.net/OnPagePDF/Conc ... t_2002.pdf
Personally, I prefer sugar and make that cane sugar at that. Why use substitutes when there's nothing wrong with the real thing if one uses it in moderation.
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DVD, hats off to you too.
It makes you want to cry when you see how many people in power are lining up to fuck over everyone that they can. Todays kids can look forward to a future that looks like a minefield.
You kinda wonder if it's not some big social experiment to weed out certain types of people.
Are they trying to kill off people who don't put a lot of effort into guarding their health??
If you want something else to open your eyes,,,,Google up...............
"living too long"
Gov wants you to produce and die. Your insurance company wants you to pay in and then die. The AMA wants you to live a diseased life and then die the second that your insurance maxes out.
Bean counters have no soul. "Quality of Life" doesn't enter any equation.
Our leaders are becoming more more mercenary and predatory and callous by the day. There's no yin to balance the yang of our so-called democracy[fascism] Maybe it's time for socialism.
Dan
It makes you want to cry when you see how many people in power are lining up to fuck over everyone that they can. Todays kids can look forward to a future that looks like a minefield.
You kinda wonder if it's not some big social experiment to weed out certain types of people.
Are they trying to kill off people who don't put a lot of effort into guarding their health??
If you want something else to open your eyes,,,,Google up...............
"living too long"
Gov wants you to produce and die. Your insurance company wants you to pay in and then die. The AMA wants you to live a diseased life and then die the second that your insurance maxes out.
Bean counters have no soul. "Quality of Life" doesn't enter any equation.
Our leaders are becoming more more mercenary and predatory and callous by the day. There's no yin to balance the yang of our so-called democracy[fascism] Maybe it's time for socialism.
Dan
I don't post things because I believe that they are the absolute truth. I post them because I believe that they should be considered.
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SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIT !! and I thought I was being pessimistic. I do not believe that bush will hold office one day past his alloted time.
The Dems hate him. He's such a liability and an embarrasment to the Reps that they won't support him in any way.
His use of depleted uranium has proven his total recklessnes to the rest of the world.
Blair would like him to disappear. He won't get support from any corner except the "military industrial" complex.
Our country may be run by fascists but they're American fascists. They won't allow America to be destroyed,,,,only impoverished.
I think that Bush is counting on WAY more apathy from Americans than really exists. The economic pain from energy and inflation is going to get worse. He's going to find WAY more resistance than he ever imagined.
Americans are far too well informed,,,in spite of Bush's best efforts at misinformation. We rapidly tire of eating shit with a spoon.
OJ Simpson is innocent and Bush carried Florida. We've been played the patsy too many times to believe anything that he says. I hope and believe that his final day is going to be completely final.
Dan
The Dems hate him. He's such a liability and an embarrasment to the Reps that they won't support him in any way.
His use of depleted uranium has proven his total recklessnes to the rest of the world.
Blair would like him to disappear. He won't get support from any corner except the "military industrial" complex.
Our country may be run by fascists but they're American fascists. They won't allow America to be destroyed,,,,only impoverished.
I think that Bush is counting on WAY more apathy from Americans than really exists. The economic pain from energy and inflation is going to get worse. He's going to find WAY more resistance than he ever imagined.
Americans are far too well informed,,,in spite of Bush's best efforts at misinformation. We rapidly tire of eating shit with a spoon.
OJ Simpson is innocent and Bush carried Florida. We've been played the patsy too many times to believe anything that he says. I hope and believe that his final day is going to be completely final.
Dan
I don't post things because I believe that they are the absolute truth. I post them because I believe that they should be considered.
Very optimistic hope your right!can't sit still wrote:SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIT !! and I thought I was being pessimistic. I do not believe that bush will hold office one day past his alloted time.
The Dems hate him. He's such a liability and an embarrasment to the Reps that they won't support him in any way.
His use of depleted uranium has proven his total recklessnes to the rest of the world.
Blair would like him to disappear. He won't get support from any corner except the "military industrial" complex.
Our country may be run by fascists but they're American fascists. They won't allow America to be destroyed,,,,only impoverished.
I think that Bush is counting on WAY more apathy from Americans than really exists. The economic pain from energy and inflation is going to get worse. He's going to find WAY more resistance than he ever imagined.
Americans are far too well informed,,,in spite of Bush's best efforts at misinformation. We rapidly tire of eating shit with a spoon.
OJ Simpson is innocent and Bush carried Florida. We've been played the patsy too many times to believe anything that he says. I hope and believe that his final day is going to be completely final.
Dan
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John Negroponte.
...no cites, but my guess is that now,
because we have a new improved central-central intelligence agency;
that we will indeed find those weapons of mass destruction that up until now have gone undetected.
...and with another layer of deniability surrounding the administration that this little alteration in the chain of command has created, I would not be suprised to see another Republican administration in `08.
...unless of course the Democrats can stop looking like fuckwits and stand for something that makes sense.
a little help here?
...no cites, but my guess is that now,
because we have a new improved central-central intelligence agency;
that we will indeed find those weapons of mass destruction that up until now have gone undetected.
...and with another layer of deniability surrounding the administration that this little alteration in the chain of command has created, I would not be suprised to see another Republican administration in `08.
...unless of course the Democrats can stop looking like fuckwits and stand for something that makes sense.
a little help here?
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Saw good old Newt Grinch on TV Sunday. Still the same old bullshiter.
One quote he'll take to his grave that Al Qaida and Saddam were working together.
Yep just like Bush and the Pres of Iran sending Love letters to each other.
Republicans just a Happy Camp of Lies and Newt trying to make his political come back.
AIIZ
One quote he'll take to his grave that Al Qaida and Saddam were working together.
Yep just like Bush and the Pres of Iran sending Love letters to each other.
Republicans just a Happy Camp of Lies and Newt trying to make his political come back.
AIIZ
We are finally gaining some freedoms back on my side
CTV.ca News Staff
Canada's controversial gun registry will undergo big changes starting on Tuesday, CTV News has learned.
The government of Stephen Harper will give the RCMP responsibility to register and keep track of guns in Canada.
And the types of guns being registered will also change. From now on only handguns and semi-automatic weapons will be placed on the list.
"What ever the government decides, obviously we will support in any way we can," RCMP commissioner Guiliano Zacardelli said.
On Tuesday, Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day will begin the changes by announcing an amnesty for rifle and shotgun owners, a group of people who have long criticized the registry for targeting law-abiding hunters and collectors.
The changes will be announced as Auditor General Sheila Fraser releases the first of three yearly reports, including a review of the gun registry.
"The auditor general will be reflecting on elements to do with the gun registry and I'll be making some comments following that," Day said.
Information from that audit was leaked to the media last week -- although Fraser has said some elements were inaccurate. Fraser's report on the gun registry is expected to say:
That the former Liberal government may have tried to hide cost overruns from Parliament
Costs grew because the Firearms Centre signed contracts with two competing computer firms.
Despite controversy and cost overruns, the gun registry has supporters. Police consult the firearms databank approximately 5,000 times every day and officers say limiting the types of guns listed will not help law enforcement.
"Our last six or seven police officers were killed with long guns," said Tony Cannavino of the Canadian Professional Police Association. "That's very sad."
Gun control activist Wendy Cukier said: "The only reason they would proceed to dismantle a system that is working as well as this one is to pay back the gun lobby."
The registry was created in 1995 as a response to the shooting of 14 young women at Montreal's Ecole Polytechnique six years earlier by Marc Lépine. The intention of the registry was to keep track of all legally-owned guns in Canada and to reduce crime by making every gun traceable.
The government of Jean Chretien estimated that establishing the registry would cost approximately $119 million, with registration fees covering all but $2 million.
Instead, costs mounted to an estimated $1 billion by 2004-05.
With a report by CTV's Rosemary Thompson
This is the first time since the 1930's we have been able to have a gun law made more lax. Now if we can just get rid of that law that says if you own a handgun the police may search your home at any time without a warrant.
Canada's controversial gun registry will undergo big changes starting on Tuesday, CTV News has learned.
The government of Stephen Harper will give the RCMP responsibility to register and keep track of guns in Canada.
And the types of guns being registered will also change. From now on only handguns and semi-automatic weapons will be placed on the list.
"What ever the government decides, obviously we will support in any way we can," RCMP commissioner Guiliano Zacardelli said.
On Tuesday, Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day will begin the changes by announcing an amnesty for rifle and shotgun owners, a group of people who have long criticized the registry for targeting law-abiding hunters and collectors.
The changes will be announced as Auditor General Sheila Fraser releases the first of three yearly reports, including a review of the gun registry.
"The auditor general will be reflecting on elements to do with the gun registry and I'll be making some comments following that," Day said.
Information from that audit was leaked to the media last week -- although Fraser has said some elements were inaccurate. Fraser's report on the gun registry is expected to say:
That the former Liberal government may have tried to hide cost overruns from Parliament
Costs grew because the Firearms Centre signed contracts with two competing computer firms.
Despite controversy and cost overruns, the gun registry has supporters. Police consult the firearms databank approximately 5,000 times every day and officers say limiting the types of guns listed will not help law enforcement.
"Our last six or seven police officers were killed with long guns," said Tony Cannavino of the Canadian Professional Police Association. "That's very sad."
Gun control activist Wendy Cukier said: "The only reason they would proceed to dismantle a system that is working as well as this one is to pay back the gun lobby."
The registry was created in 1995 as a response to the shooting of 14 young women at Montreal's Ecole Polytechnique six years earlier by Marc Lépine. The intention of the registry was to keep track of all legally-owned guns in Canada and to reduce crime by making every gun traceable.
The government of Jean Chretien estimated that establishing the registry would cost approximately $119 million, with registration fees covering all but $2 million.
Instead, costs mounted to an estimated $1 billion by 2004-05.
With a report by CTV's Rosemary Thompson
This is the first time since the 1930's we have been able to have a gun law made more lax. Now if we can just get rid of that law that says if you own a handgun the police may search your home at any time without a warrant.
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Convicted? More like made into scapegoats. Skilling is innocent regardless of what some stacked jury that was spoonfed lies and bs evidence has to say about it.joel the ornery wrote:Lay, Skilling convicted in Enron collapse
The only person that was rightfully convicted is Ken Lay. As for Skilling this ain't justice, it's being railroaded so the government comes out looking like their tough on financial crime... and pity the poor fool who gets caught in their witchhunt. Justice? Yeah, right.
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Coke Bust Connection To 9/11 Attack
Date: 27 May 2006

Ecxert from "Welcome To Terrorland "
A BOOK BY DANIEL HOPSICKER
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http://www.varsity.co.nz/news/articles.asp?id=5517
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An investigation into the ownership of the DC9 airliner caught carrying 5.5 tons of cocaine in Mexico last month has uncovered explosive new details about some of the many lingering mysteries still surrounding the 9.11 attack.
San Diego defense contractor Titan Corporation, already implicated in the fraudulent bankruptcy of a shadowy St. Petersburg FL company which owned the DC9 "Cocaine One" flight busted in Mexico, employed a Lebanese contractor who assisted Mohamed Atta and other terrorist hijackers in Venice, Florida.
For Titan, the revelation marks the latest in a remarkable series of recent scandals, including employees charged with torture and rape at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, a record $26 million fine and conviction for fixing a Presidential election in the African nation of Benin, and growing infamy for being the biggest money backer of disgraced and soon-to-be-jailed former Congressman Randy “Duke” Cunningham.
The story begins when, while researching “Welcome to TERRORLAND” three years ago, we discovered that Makram Chams, a Lebanese national, had provided significant logistical support for Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi.
Chams, we learned, had even entertained recently-convicted Zacharias Moussaoui in his apartment in Venice.
Makram Chams owned a Kwik-Check convenience store in Venice, where the biggest overseas money transfer to the terrorists, $70,000 from the UAE., was sent, according to the testimony of FBI agents during the 9.11 Commission hearings.
Actually the FBI testimony never mentioned Chams, or his store.
They did however show the receipt for the money order at the final hearing of the 9.11 Commission, which we attended. And we were already familiar with the address where the money order went: 201 Nokomis Avenue.
Makram Cham's Kwik-Chek... Strangely, Chams left town soon after the 9.11 attack, abandoning a thriving convenience store which has stood vacant ever since.
In a story in the Sarasota Herald Tribune, reporter Earle Kimel, who first broke the story of Mohamed Atta’s American girlfriend, Amanda Keller, called Chams' abandoned store “A pocket of urban blight in the otherwise smartly tailored suit of downtown Venice.”
Just another freak coincidence?
An understanding of what Makram Chams had been doing while in Venice--and for whom--had eluded us, and been one of our biggest unanswered questions, one which might shed light on whether the U.S. Government possessed guilty foreknowledge--or even culpability--in the 9.11 attack.
Our search for Chams had been unsuccessful. No one knew where he was, or why he'd left. But now Chams has re-surfaced in Saudi Arabia, where he worked in an unlikely capacity: as a contractor for American defense firm Titan Corp.
News of Makram Chams' current whereabouts came to us when a researcher recently sent this addendum to Titan Corp’s 2005 SEC filing:
“On March 14, 2005, Makram Majid Chams, a former consultant of Titan filed a claim with the Preliminary Committee on Labor Disputes Settlement in Saudi Arabia. Mr. Chams alleges that Titan wrongfully terminated his consulting agreement and that he was defamed by Titan's publication in a local newspaper of a mandatory notice that he is no longer representing Titan. The plaintiff is seeking approximately $21.9 million in damages. We intend to defend our position vigorously.”Was the man suing Titan in Saudi Arabia, “Makram Majid Chams,” the same "Makram Chams" who'd lived in Venice?
The answer was 'yes.' A marriage announcement in the Sarasota Herald Tribune from January of 1998 gave us the full name of the Makram Chams who'd lived in Venice, identical to the name of the man suing Titan in Saudi Arabia.
“Makram Majid Chams,” said the announcement, had married “Rim Ghazi Abou Zein, both of Venice.”
The news was nothing short of astonishing. The man who'd assisted terrorist hijackers in Venice...working for an American defense contractor in Saudi Arabia? What was Chams doing for The Titan Corp? What made him think they owe him $22 million dollars? And most importantly...
Was Makram Chams already working for Titan while in Venice?
While we didn’t know the answers to any of these questions, one thing we did know was that Bob Woodward would not be on the case. The major media steered completely clear of stories about what was clearly the biggest 9.11 crime scene that wasn't reduced to rubble: Venice, Fl., home to three of the four terrorist pilots.
We decided to take a closer look at Makram Chams.
Hangin' with the 'Mak Jack' Attack
A Venice Yellow Cab driver, Bob Simpson, first told us that the Middle Eastern man who owned the convenience store had been close to the hijackers, and that Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi frequently met at an apartment in Venice which he rented.
Simpson had been questioned closely by the FBI three days after the Sept. 11 attack. “I heard a voice say ‘this is Special Agent Joe Anderson from the FBI calling,’” he told us. “My heart sort of skipped a beat. Then he said, ‘Don’t worry, you haven’t done anything wrong.’”
“He asked if I’d seen pictures of the terrorists, and if I had, wanted to know if I recognized any. I said yes, I recognized Mohamed Atta. I’m the day driver for Yellow Cab in Venice, and he was in my cab a bunch of times in August,” cabbie Simpson explained. “The night driver had him even more than I did.”
Simpson picked up Atta at the convenience store owner’s apartment on several occasions. He told the FBI he had been asked to drive to Orlando by a relative of the Middle Eastern man who owned the convenience store.
“Their (the terrorists) best friend used to live upstairs on the second floor,” stated Simpson, pointing to the Burgundy Square Apartments in downtown Venice. I saw Atta and Al-Shehhi there.”
“They were always hanging out together at the store. Most of the time, I’d be called by their friend, or they would call saying pick them up there at the market.”
That the terrorist hijackers spent much time hanging out in Makram Chams' Kwik-Check was independently confirmed by numerous observers, including a local psychiatrist who contacted us recently.
“Nokomis Ave runs right behind the hospital in Venice,” stated the psychiatrist. "Each day as I left the hospital for the office I'd head north on Nokomis. At the corner of Nokomis and Miami there was this little (Kwik-Chek) convenience store run by middle-eastern types.”
“Half the time I'd be late for the office and I'd stop in there and grab something awful for lunch. A woman and a large man were usually behind the counter. Some days I'd go in there and no one would be behind the counter but there would be loud talking in the back.”
“A few times I saw Atta in there, hanging around. Once I made eye contact with him—dead on! Emphasis on "dead" because when we locked eyes a chill went through me and I thought: "He's got 'dead' eyes."
“When you become a shrink you sometimes get attuned to what might be going on with a person just from seeing how they look—their faces and eyes—on the street or in public. The chill I got when I saw Atta was not the chill of fear. It was a chill about how sick he looked. He looked to be one of the most depressed persons I'd ever laid eyes on.”
“He looked so depressed that it was as if he was already gone. In retrospect I feel he may have been just as happy to die for the sake of ending it all as he was to die for Allah.”
“A couple of weeks after 9/11 the convenience store closed up,” stated the psychiatrist, who has since moved out of state. “I was down there last summer visiting the old psych unit crew, nurses and staff, at a yearly reunion at Sharkey's, and the store was still closed up. I found a reference to the store on the TERRORLAND website, and it got me thinking.”
“I wish I'd paid more attention back then… but who knew?”
Who was the Saudi in Armani and shades?
Cabbie Simpson told of how he had picked up a wealthy Saudi businessman at the Orlando Airport after picking up the convenience store owner at the apartment in Venice. The FBI expressed interest in the rich Saudi, he said.
“They were especially interested in a rich Saudi guy that I’d been sent to pick up at the Orlando Airport. They said they already knew that he'd ridden in my cab because they’d gotten my cab number from a surveillance camera at the airport.”
“He flew in on a private jet, and was dressed in Armani and shades, with his wife, who wore traditional Arab clothing. After clearing international customs, they proceeded back to a Venice apartment rented by the convenience store owner.
Six weeks later, he drove the wealthy Saudi's wife back to the Orlando Airport, Simpson told the FBI. Again they left from the convenience store owner's Venice apartment. When he arrived to pick up his fare, Simpson was asked to come up to the apartment to help carry a chest down to the cab.
“The chest was so heavy it took two people to carry,” Simpson said. "A big bald guy who was there helped me carry the chest down.” The man who helped him carry the chest down the stairs to the cab, said Simpson, was Zacharias Moussaoui.
Cabbie Simpson had been so clearly impressed with how heavy the chest had been that we too were intrigued. We called a man we knew to have worked for many years in American intelligence to ask what he thought made the chest so heavy.
“Gold,” he replied immediately. “There was gold in that chest.”
The identification of Moussaoui in Venice confirmed what we had reported exclusively nearly four years ago, when we learned that the second Dutch national flight school owner at the Venice Airport, Arne Kruithof, was questioned for two days by officials taking depositions from potential witnesses in Moussaoui's trial.
Further confirmation of Moussaoui’s presence in Venice came much later from an unlikely and usually highly-dubious source: Rudi Dekkers.
Continuing the FBI cover-up about the terrorist’s activity in Venice, jurors in the trial of Zacharias Moussaoui were never told that Moussaoui had been there.
They did however, hear testimony which confirmed the allegation in “Welcome to TERRORLAND,” of a systematic cover up by the FBI of the fact that Venice was the terrorist’s main base of operations.
In February 2001, the jurors were told, Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi had been spotted in Clearwater Florida flying a single-engine plane registered to Huffman Aviation...almost two months after the FBI’s official chronology states Atta left Venice and Huffman for good.
Ask Jack how Gus Boulis became "Abramoff-impaired"
We had initially thought that Makram Chams was probably an Arab operative sent in early to smooth the way for the hijackers.
Then we discovered that Chams had been a PARTNER in 1997 and 1998 in a gambling boat called “Vegas in Venice,” which cleaned up in Venice for two years.
This information only added to our puzzlement. We wondered: Where does an immigrant, bootstrapping himself up in America through the time-tested method of owning a convenience store, get the JUICE to be a partner in a gambling boat?
People kill to get jobs like that in Florida.
Just ask Jack Abramoff.
The controlling partner in the gambling ship in which Makram Chams was a partner is Ian Goldfarb, from Gladwyne, a suburb of Philadelphia.
The only other local partner in the casino ship, we were shocked to discover, was Max Burge, who we’d interviewed during research for “Welcome to TERRORLAND,” because Burge owned the planes used at Huffman Aviation.
Small world. But it soon got even smaller…
Frederic Geffon from “Royal Sons,” the aggravated part-owner of “Cocaine One,” told us that he had done business with Burge.
The San Diego FBI: Confidential informants you can trust!
Royal Sons had used the address of Huffman Aviation’s hanger at the Venice Airport in a few airplane ads. This is inexplicable, at least it is to Royal Son's Frederic Geffon, who denies ever placing plane ads with a Venice Airport address. His denial rang a little hollow with his claim that anyone could have placed ads claiming to be him.
Possible, perhaps. But also, we think, highly unlikely.
We finally found someone who knew what had happened to Makram Chams. It was his sister, May Chams. She was then working at the same pharmacy in Venice where we discovered, much later, that Mohamed Atta had brought his father, less than two weeks before the attack. We persisted in questioning May, in the face of her obvious hostility, and were finally rewarded.
“Mak is in San Diego," she told us,"helping the FBI.”
Only now does her statement make sense to us. But, if Makram hotfooted it to San Diego on “business” after the 9.11 attack, it would be a strong indication that he had a relationship with Titan Corp... while he was still in Venice.
It has since been revealed that Titan trains mercenaries, and provides mercenaries for operations. Current operations. Ongoing operations...
Disclosures in the Duke Cunningham scandal lead directly to Titan. Before it is done, this may present someone with some very thorny problems.
As a result of our investigation so far, for example, we will be reporting in our next story that by delving into the relationships between the corporations involved in the 5.5 ton cocaine caper we have been able to uncover evidence of the unmistakable presence, behind the scenes in the scandal, of Saudi billionaire Adnan Khashoggi...
The very same Adnan Khashoggi who has been a force behind a well-financed disinformation campaign billing itself the “9.11 Truth Movement.”
The U.S. military has 1200-man psychological warfare battalion, we learned recently. They probably aren't all working in Iraq. In all likelihood, a psy-op has been waged against the American people to draw attention from questions about who the terrorists were associating with--and what they had been doing--while they were in the U.S.
Questions with answers.
Someone would prefer they not become public.
But you won't find much about any of this on the innumerable websites of the “9.11 Truth Movement." Most seem to be utterly fascinated currently with speculation about materials which might have been secreted inside the Twin Towers which could have made them collapse.
They used to utterly fascinated with proving that no plane hit the Pentagon. Before that there were utterly fascinated with the idea that the planes were flown by remote control. And on and on.
Controlling the debate is easy when a billionaire is footing the bill.
Advantage Khashoggi.
But it ain't over till its over... And there's a DC9 sitting in Mexico tonight whose anxious owners know something about this powerful truth:
It ain't over.
Date: 27 May 2006

Ecxert from "Welcome To Terrorland "
A BOOK BY DANIEL HOPSICKER
http://www.madcowprod.com/books.html
http://www.varsity.co.nz/news/articles.asp?id=5517
***************
An investigation into the ownership of the DC9 airliner caught carrying 5.5 tons of cocaine in Mexico last month has uncovered explosive new details about some of the many lingering mysteries still surrounding the 9.11 attack.
San Diego defense contractor Titan Corporation, already implicated in the fraudulent bankruptcy of a shadowy St. Petersburg FL company which owned the DC9 "Cocaine One" flight busted in Mexico, employed a Lebanese contractor who assisted Mohamed Atta and other terrorist hijackers in Venice, Florida.
For Titan, the revelation marks the latest in a remarkable series of recent scandals, including employees charged with torture and rape at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, a record $26 million fine and conviction for fixing a Presidential election in the African nation of Benin, and growing infamy for being the biggest money backer of disgraced and soon-to-be-jailed former Congressman Randy “Duke” Cunningham.
The story begins when, while researching “Welcome to TERRORLAND” three years ago, we discovered that Makram Chams, a Lebanese national, had provided significant logistical support for Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi.
Chams, we learned, had even entertained recently-convicted Zacharias Moussaoui in his apartment in Venice.
Makram Chams owned a Kwik-Check convenience store in Venice, where the biggest overseas money transfer to the terrorists, $70,000 from the UAE., was sent, according to the testimony of FBI agents during the 9.11 Commission hearings.
Actually the FBI testimony never mentioned Chams, or his store.
They did however show the receipt for the money order at the final hearing of the 9.11 Commission, which we attended. And we were already familiar with the address where the money order went: 201 Nokomis Avenue.
Makram Cham's Kwik-Chek... Strangely, Chams left town soon after the 9.11 attack, abandoning a thriving convenience store which has stood vacant ever since.
In a story in the Sarasota Herald Tribune, reporter Earle Kimel, who first broke the story of Mohamed Atta’s American girlfriend, Amanda Keller, called Chams' abandoned store “A pocket of urban blight in the otherwise smartly tailored suit of downtown Venice.”
Just another freak coincidence?
An understanding of what Makram Chams had been doing while in Venice--and for whom--had eluded us, and been one of our biggest unanswered questions, one which might shed light on whether the U.S. Government possessed guilty foreknowledge--or even culpability--in the 9.11 attack.
Our search for Chams had been unsuccessful. No one knew where he was, or why he'd left. But now Chams has re-surfaced in Saudi Arabia, where he worked in an unlikely capacity: as a contractor for American defense firm Titan Corp.
News of Makram Chams' current whereabouts came to us when a researcher recently sent this addendum to Titan Corp’s 2005 SEC filing:
“On March 14, 2005, Makram Majid Chams, a former consultant of Titan filed a claim with the Preliminary Committee on Labor Disputes Settlement in Saudi Arabia. Mr. Chams alleges that Titan wrongfully terminated his consulting agreement and that he was defamed by Titan's publication in a local newspaper of a mandatory notice that he is no longer representing Titan. The plaintiff is seeking approximately $21.9 million in damages. We intend to defend our position vigorously.”Was the man suing Titan in Saudi Arabia, “Makram Majid Chams,” the same "Makram Chams" who'd lived in Venice?
The answer was 'yes.' A marriage announcement in the Sarasota Herald Tribune from January of 1998 gave us the full name of the Makram Chams who'd lived in Venice, identical to the name of the man suing Titan in Saudi Arabia.
“Makram Majid Chams,” said the announcement, had married “Rim Ghazi Abou Zein, both of Venice.”
The news was nothing short of astonishing. The man who'd assisted terrorist hijackers in Venice...working for an American defense contractor in Saudi Arabia? What was Chams doing for The Titan Corp? What made him think they owe him $22 million dollars? And most importantly...
Was Makram Chams already working for Titan while in Venice?
While we didn’t know the answers to any of these questions, one thing we did know was that Bob Woodward would not be on the case. The major media steered completely clear of stories about what was clearly the biggest 9.11 crime scene that wasn't reduced to rubble: Venice, Fl., home to three of the four terrorist pilots.
We decided to take a closer look at Makram Chams.
Hangin' with the 'Mak Jack' Attack
A Venice Yellow Cab driver, Bob Simpson, first told us that the Middle Eastern man who owned the convenience store had been close to the hijackers, and that Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi frequently met at an apartment in Venice which he rented.
Simpson had been questioned closely by the FBI three days after the Sept. 11 attack. “I heard a voice say ‘this is Special Agent Joe Anderson from the FBI calling,’” he told us. “My heart sort of skipped a beat. Then he said, ‘Don’t worry, you haven’t done anything wrong.’”
“He asked if I’d seen pictures of the terrorists, and if I had, wanted to know if I recognized any. I said yes, I recognized Mohamed Atta. I’m the day driver for Yellow Cab in Venice, and he was in my cab a bunch of times in August,” cabbie Simpson explained. “The night driver had him even more than I did.”
Simpson picked up Atta at the convenience store owner’s apartment on several occasions. He told the FBI he had been asked to drive to Orlando by a relative of the Middle Eastern man who owned the convenience store.
“Their (the terrorists) best friend used to live upstairs on the second floor,” stated Simpson, pointing to the Burgundy Square Apartments in downtown Venice. I saw Atta and Al-Shehhi there.”
“They were always hanging out together at the store. Most of the time, I’d be called by their friend, or they would call saying pick them up there at the market.”
That the terrorist hijackers spent much time hanging out in Makram Chams' Kwik-Check was independently confirmed by numerous observers, including a local psychiatrist who contacted us recently.
“Nokomis Ave runs right behind the hospital in Venice,” stated the psychiatrist. "Each day as I left the hospital for the office I'd head north on Nokomis. At the corner of Nokomis and Miami there was this little (Kwik-Chek) convenience store run by middle-eastern types.”
“Half the time I'd be late for the office and I'd stop in there and grab something awful for lunch. A woman and a large man were usually behind the counter. Some days I'd go in there and no one would be behind the counter but there would be loud talking in the back.”
“A few times I saw Atta in there, hanging around. Once I made eye contact with him—dead on! Emphasis on "dead" because when we locked eyes a chill went through me and I thought: "He's got 'dead' eyes."
“When you become a shrink you sometimes get attuned to what might be going on with a person just from seeing how they look—their faces and eyes—on the street or in public. The chill I got when I saw Atta was not the chill of fear. It was a chill about how sick he looked. He looked to be one of the most depressed persons I'd ever laid eyes on.”
“He looked so depressed that it was as if he was already gone. In retrospect I feel he may have been just as happy to die for the sake of ending it all as he was to die for Allah.”
“A couple of weeks after 9/11 the convenience store closed up,” stated the psychiatrist, who has since moved out of state. “I was down there last summer visiting the old psych unit crew, nurses and staff, at a yearly reunion at Sharkey's, and the store was still closed up. I found a reference to the store on the TERRORLAND website, and it got me thinking.”
“I wish I'd paid more attention back then… but who knew?”
Who was the Saudi in Armani and shades?
Cabbie Simpson told of how he had picked up a wealthy Saudi businessman at the Orlando Airport after picking up the convenience store owner at the apartment in Venice. The FBI expressed interest in the rich Saudi, he said.
“They were especially interested in a rich Saudi guy that I’d been sent to pick up at the Orlando Airport. They said they already knew that he'd ridden in my cab because they’d gotten my cab number from a surveillance camera at the airport.”
“He flew in on a private jet, and was dressed in Armani and shades, with his wife, who wore traditional Arab clothing. After clearing international customs, they proceeded back to a Venice apartment rented by the convenience store owner.
Six weeks later, he drove the wealthy Saudi's wife back to the Orlando Airport, Simpson told the FBI. Again they left from the convenience store owner's Venice apartment. When he arrived to pick up his fare, Simpson was asked to come up to the apartment to help carry a chest down to the cab.
“The chest was so heavy it took two people to carry,” Simpson said. "A big bald guy who was there helped me carry the chest down.” The man who helped him carry the chest down the stairs to the cab, said Simpson, was Zacharias Moussaoui.
Cabbie Simpson had been so clearly impressed with how heavy the chest had been that we too were intrigued. We called a man we knew to have worked for many years in American intelligence to ask what he thought made the chest so heavy.
“Gold,” he replied immediately. “There was gold in that chest.”
The identification of Moussaoui in Venice confirmed what we had reported exclusively nearly four years ago, when we learned that the second Dutch national flight school owner at the Venice Airport, Arne Kruithof, was questioned for two days by officials taking depositions from potential witnesses in Moussaoui's trial.
Further confirmation of Moussaoui’s presence in Venice came much later from an unlikely and usually highly-dubious source: Rudi Dekkers.
Continuing the FBI cover-up about the terrorist’s activity in Venice, jurors in the trial of Zacharias Moussaoui were never told that Moussaoui had been there.
They did however, hear testimony which confirmed the allegation in “Welcome to TERRORLAND,” of a systematic cover up by the FBI of the fact that Venice was the terrorist’s main base of operations.
In February 2001, the jurors were told, Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi had been spotted in Clearwater Florida flying a single-engine plane registered to Huffman Aviation...almost two months after the FBI’s official chronology states Atta left Venice and Huffman for good.
Ask Jack how Gus Boulis became "Abramoff-impaired"
We had initially thought that Makram Chams was probably an Arab operative sent in early to smooth the way for the hijackers.
Then we discovered that Chams had been a PARTNER in 1997 and 1998 in a gambling boat called “Vegas in Venice,” which cleaned up in Venice for two years.
This information only added to our puzzlement. We wondered: Where does an immigrant, bootstrapping himself up in America through the time-tested method of owning a convenience store, get the JUICE to be a partner in a gambling boat?
People kill to get jobs like that in Florida.
Just ask Jack Abramoff.
The controlling partner in the gambling ship in which Makram Chams was a partner is Ian Goldfarb, from Gladwyne, a suburb of Philadelphia.
The only other local partner in the casino ship, we were shocked to discover, was Max Burge, who we’d interviewed during research for “Welcome to TERRORLAND,” because Burge owned the planes used at Huffman Aviation.
Small world. But it soon got even smaller…
Frederic Geffon from “Royal Sons,” the aggravated part-owner of “Cocaine One,” told us that he had done business with Burge.
The San Diego FBI: Confidential informants you can trust!
Royal Sons had used the address of Huffman Aviation’s hanger at the Venice Airport in a few airplane ads. This is inexplicable, at least it is to Royal Son's Frederic Geffon, who denies ever placing plane ads with a Venice Airport address. His denial rang a little hollow with his claim that anyone could have placed ads claiming to be him.
Possible, perhaps. But also, we think, highly unlikely.
We finally found someone who knew what had happened to Makram Chams. It was his sister, May Chams. She was then working at the same pharmacy in Venice where we discovered, much later, that Mohamed Atta had brought his father, less than two weeks before the attack. We persisted in questioning May, in the face of her obvious hostility, and were finally rewarded.
“Mak is in San Diego," she told us,"helping the FBI.”
Only now does her statement make sense to us. But, if Makram hotfooted it to San Diego on “business” after the 9.11 attack, it would be a strong indication that he had a relationship with Titan Corp... while he was still in Venice.
It has since been revealed that Titan trains mercenaries, and provides mercenaries for operations. Current operations. Ongoing operations...
Disclosures in the Duke Cunningham scandal lead directly to Titan. Before it is done, this may present someone with some very thorny problems.
As a result of our investigation so far, for example, we will be reporting in our next story that by delving into the relationships between the corporations involved in the 5.5 ton cocaine caper we have been able to uncover evidence of the unmistakable presence, behind the scenes in the scandal, of Saudi billionaire Adnan Khashoggi...
The very same Adnan Khashoggi who has been a force behind a well-financed disinformation campaign billing itself the “9.11 Truth Movement.”
The U.S. military has 1200-man psychological warfare battalion, we learned recently. They probably aren't all working in Iraq. In all likelihood, a psy-op has been waged against the American people to draw attention from questions about who the terrorists were associating with--and what they had been doing--while they were in the U.S.
Questions with answers.
Someone would prefer they not become public.
But you won't find much about any of this on the innumerable websites of the “9.11 Truth Movement." Most seem to be utterly fascinated currently with speculation about materials which might have been secreted inside the Twin Towers which could have made them collapse.
They used to utterly fascinated with proving that no plane hit the Pentagon. Before that there were utterly fascinated with the idea that the planes were flown by remote control. And on and on.
Controlling the debate is easy when a billionaire is footing the bill.
Advantage Khashoggi.
But it ain't over till its over... And there's a DC9 sitting in Mexico tonight whose anxious owners know something about this powerful truth:
It ain't over.
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I don't pay much attention to the illuminati stuff but seeing Titan get some seriously needed harsh exposure makes me smile like few things do of late. Beyond that, no comment.
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"RE: The 3Playa: One doesn't have to like everyone but it's not right for Tiara, Precipitate, and others to discriminate and force people away either! It's like HATER CENTRAL over there."
Kinetic, i'm only mildly curious, but why all the bad politics over there?
Are poeple taking themselves too seriously? Is it populated with Uber Burners?
To me, it seems that since burners abhor the default world, they should be especially careful to avoid the "default attitude". I don't agree with what you said so YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE
This board is pretty nice but once in a while I see replies that suggest the writer has forgotten that it's a real person on the receiving end.
It costs nothing to confine onesself a little.
I saw a quote from an early explorer who encountered a band of Indians in the north. "If these people had any redeemimg qualities, we had not the sagacity to discern them"
Kinetic, i'm only mildly curious, but why all the bad politics over there?
Are poeple taking themselves too seriously? Is it populated with Uber Burners?
To me, it seems that since burners abhor the default world, they should be especially careful to avoid the "default attitude". I don't agree with what you said so YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE
This board is pretty nice but once in a while I see replies that suggest the writer has forgotten that it's a real person on the receiving end.
It costs nothing to confine onesself a little.
I saw a quote from an early explorer who encountered a band of Indians in the north. "If these people had any redeemimg qualities, we had not the sagacity to discern them"
I don't post things because I believe that they are the absolute truth. I post them because I believe that they should be considered.
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American Bar Assoc. To Investigate Constitutionality Of Bush's Use Of Signing Statements To Ignore Over 750 Laws...
Boston Globe | Charlie Savage | http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washi ... hallenges/
The board of governors of the American Bar Association voted unanimously yesterday to investigate whether President Bush has exceeded his constitutional authority in reserving the right to ignore more than 750 laws that have been enacted since he took office.
Meeting in New Orleans, the board of governors for the world's largest association of legal professionals approved the creation of an all-star legal panel with a number of members from both political parties.
How Dare They?

Boston Globe | Charlie Savage | http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washi ... hallenges/
The board of governors of the American Bar Association voted unanimously yesterday to investigate whether President Bush has exceeded his constitutional authority in reserving the right to ignore more than 750 laws that have been enacted since he took office.
Meeting in New Orleans, the board of governors for the world's largest association of legal professionals approved the creation of an all-star legal panel with a number of members from both political parties.
How Dare They?

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Curious tidbit
On May 12, 2006 in Peoria, Illinois, the attorney for the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) begged the court to dismiss all charges against IRS victim Robert Lawrence in federal District Court.
The motion for dismissal came on the heels of a surprise tactic by Lawrence’s defense attorney Oscar Stilley.
The tactic threatened exposure of IRS’s on-going efforts to defraud the public. The move put DOJ attorneys in a state of panic that left them with only one alternative: beg for dismissal, with prejudice.
Stilley’s tactic paid off. Sixty days earlier, the DOJ had indicted Lawrence on three counts of willful failure to file a 1040 form, and three felony counts of income tax evasion. The federal Judge dismissed all charges with prejudice, meaning the DOJ cannot charge Lawrence with those crimes again.
The trial was to have started on Monday morning, May 15th.
On Wednesday, May 10, Stilley mailed a set of documents to the DOJ in response to DOJ’s discovery demands. The documents revealed to DOJ for the first time that Lawrence was basing his entire defense on an act of Congress, 44 U.S.C. 3500 – 3520, also known as the "Paperwork Reduction Act" (PRA).
In Section 3512 of the Act, titled "Public Protection," it says that no person shall be subject to any penalty for failing to comply with an agency’s collection of information request (such as a 1040 form), if the request does not display a valid control number assigned by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) in accordance with the requirements of the Act, or if the agency fails to inform the person who is to respond to the collection of information that he is not required to respond to the collection of information request unless it displays a valid control number.
In Section 3512 Congress went on to authorize that the protection provided by Section 3512 may be raised in the form of a complete defense at any time during an agency’s administrative process (such as an IRS Tax Court or Collection and Due Process Hearing) or during a judicial proceeding (such as Lawrence’s criminal trial).
In sum, the PRA requires that all government agencies display valid OMB control numbers and certain disclosures directly on all information collection forms that the public is requested to file. Lawrence's sole defense was he was not required to file an IRS Form 1040 because it displays an invalid OMB control number.
Government officials knew that if the case went to trial, it would expose the fraudulent, counterfeit 1040. They also must have known that a trial would expose the ongoing conspiracy between OMB and IRS to publish 1040 forms each year that those agencies knew were in violation of the PRA. That would raise the issue that the Form 1040, with its invalid control number, is being used by the Government to cover up the underlying constitutional tort -- that is, the enforcement of a direct, unapportioned tax on the labor of every working man, women and child in America.
Any information collection form, such as IRS Form 1040, which lacks bona fide statutory authority or which conflicts with the Constitution, cannot be issued an OMB control number. If a control number were issued for such a form, the form would be invalid and of no force and effect.
Under the facts and circumstances of the last 24 years, it is safe to say that IRS Form 1040 is a fraudulent, counterfeit, bootleg form. Government officials responsible for this fraud should be investigated and face indictment for willfully making and sponsoring false instruments.
Caught between a rock and a hard place, the DOJ and IRS decided not to let the Lawrence case proceed because it would reveal one critical and damning fact:
The PRA law protects those that fail to file IRS bootleg Form 1040
The DOJ knew that it stood a significant chance of losing the case, and if that happened, the press and others would quickly spread the word, and leave only fools to ever file a 1040 again. Oscar Stilley’s pleadings and documents made these points quite clear:
IRS Form 1040 violates the federal Paperwork Reduction Act (PRA) and is therefore a legally invalid form.
Under the Public Protection clause of the PRA, no person can be penalized for failing to file a 1040 if the IRS fails to fully comply with the PRA.
The PRA statutes explicitly provide that a PRA challenge is a complete defense and can be raised in any administrative or judicial proceeding.
The IRS Individual Form 1040 has not and cannot comply with the requirements of the PRA because no existing statute authorizes the IRS to impose or collect the federal income tax from individuals. That lack of bona fide authority makes it impossible for IRS to avoid violating the PRA.
We The People Foundation has researched the facts, law and circumstances surrounding this case, and has determined that:
A public trial would have opened a “Pandora’s Box” of legal evidence and government testimony under oath that would establish the IRS 1040 form as both fraudulent and counterfeit.
Oscar Stilley’s PRA defense “checkmated” the DOJ and IRS
The Office of Management and Budget (OMB) appears to have been complicit with IRS in deceiving the public and in helping perpetuate the 1040 fraud by promulgating federal regulations that negate the plain language of the PRA laws passed by Congress and by allowing the IRS to continually skirt the explicit requirements of those statutes
Accordingly, We The People Foundation has petitioned the U.S. Attorney General, the IRS Commissioner, and Director of the OMB, requesting an official explanation of their conduct in Peoria.
See the petition below. It includes links to all relevant statutes, regulations, court decisions, Federal Register publications, law review articles, Lawrence case pleadings, and the discovery documents sent by defense counsel Stilley to the DOJ.
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We The People Foundation
On May 12, 2006 in Peoria, Illinois, the attorney for the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) begged the court to dismiss all charges against IRS victim Robert Lawrence in federal District Court.
The motion for dismissal came on the heels of a surprise tactic by Lawrence’s defense attorney Oscar Stilley.
The tactic threatened exposure of IRS’s on-going efforts to defraud the public. The move put DOJ attorneys in a state of panic that left them with only one alternative: beg for dismissal, with prejudice.
Stilley’s tactic paid off. Sixty days earlier, the DOJ had indicted Lawrence on three counts of willful failure to file a 1040 form, and three felony counts of income tax evasion. The federal Judge dismissed all charges with prejudice, meaning the DOJ cannot charge Lawrence with those crimes again.
The trial was to have started on Monday morning, May 15th.
On Wednesday, May 10, Stilley mailed a set of documents to the DOJ in response to DOJ’s discovery demands. The documents revealed to DOJ for the first time that Lawrence was basing his entire defense on an act of Congress, 44 U.S.C. 3500 – 3520, also known as the "Paperwork Reduction Act" (PRA).
In Section 3512 of the Act, titled "Public Protection," it says that no person shall be subject to any penalty for failing to comply with an agency’s collection of information request (such as a 1040 form), if the request does not display a valid control number assigned by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) in accordance with the requirements of the Act, or if the agency fails to inform the person who is to respond to the collection of information that he is not required to respond to the collection of information request unless it displays a valid control number.
In Section 3512 Congress went on to authorize that the protection provided by Section 3512 may be raised in the form of a complete defense at any time during an agency’s administrative process (such as an IRS Tax Court or Collection and Due Process Hearing) or during a judicial proceeding (such as Lawrence’s criminal trial).
In sum, the PRA requires that all government agencies display valid OMB control numbers and certain disclosures directly on all information collection forms that the public is requested to file. Lawrence's sole defense was he was not required to file an IRS Form 1040 because it displays an invalid OMB control number.
Government officials knew that if the case went to trial, it would expose the fraudulent, counterfeit 1040. They also must have known that a trial would expose the ongoing conspiracy between OMB and IRS to publish 1040 forms each year that those agencies knew were in violation of the PRA. That would raise the issue that the Form 1040, with its invalid control number, is being used by the Government to cover up the underlying constitutional tort -- that is, the enforcement of a direct, unapportioned tax on the labor of every working man, women and child in America.
Any information collection form, such as IRS Form 1040, which lacks bona fide statutory authority or which conflicts with the Constitution, cannot be issued an OMB control number. If a control number were issued for such a form, the form would be invalid and of no force and effect.
Under the facts and circumstances of the last 24 years, it is safe to say that IRS Form 1040 is a fraudulent, counterfeit, bootleg form. Government officials responsible for this fraud should be investigated and face indictment for willfully making and sponsoring false instruments.
Caught between a rock and a hard place, the DOJ and IRS decided not to let the Lawrence case proceed because it would reveal one critical and damning fact:
The PRA law protects those that fail to file IRS bootleg Form 1040
The DOJ knew that it stood a significant chance of losing the case, and if that happened, the press and others would quickly spread the word, and leave only fools to ever file a 1040 again. Oscar Stilley’s pleadings and documents made these points quite clear:
IRS Form 1040 violates the federal Paperwork Reduction Act (PRA) and is therefore a legally invalid form.
Under the Public Protection clause of the PRA, no person can be penalized for failing to file a 1040 if the IRS fails to fully comply with the PRA.
The PRA statutes explicitly provide that a PRA challenge is a complete defense and can be raised in any administrative or judicial proceeding.
The IRS Individual Form 1040 has not and cannot comply with the requirements of the PRA because no existing statute authorizes the IRS to impose or collect the federal income tax from individuals. That lack of bona fide authority makes it impossible for IRS to avoid violating the PRA.
We The People Foundation has researched the facts, law and circumstances surrounding this case, and has determined that:
A public trial would have opened a “Pandora’s Box” of legal evidence and government testimony under oath that would establish the IRS 1040 form as both fraudulent and counterfeit.
Oscar Stilley’s PRA defense “checkmated” the DOJ and IRS
The Office of Management and Budget (OMB) appears to have been complicit with IRS in deceiving the public and in helping perpetuate the 1040 fraud by promulgating federal regulations that negate the plain language of the PRA laws passed by Congress and by allowing the IRS to continually skirt the explicit requirements of those statutes
Accordingly, We The People Foundation has petitioned the U.S. Attorney General, the IRS Commissioner, and Director of the OMB, requesting an official explanation of their conduct in Peoria.
See the petition below. It includes links to all relevant statutes, regulations, court decisions, Federal Register publications, law review articles, Lawrence case pleadings, and the discovery documents sent by defense counsel Stilley to the DOJ.
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We The People Foundation
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It passes the first round sniff test, at first I thought the bullshit detector would start going off. But with a little digging it appears there really is a "Paperwork Reduction Act".
http://www.archives.gov/federal-registe ... reduction/
http://reginfo.gov/public/reginfo/pra.pdf
http://www.cio.noaa.gov/itmanagement/pra.htm
http://www.firstgov.gov/webcontent/reqs ... tion.shtml
http://www.ombwatch.org/article/articleview/182/1/67
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c104:S.244.ENR:
I'm not that keen on testing it like Mr. Lawrence did though. With my luck Uncle Sam would find something I forgot or dig through the myriad laws already on the books and find something that would stand up. I think I'll pass...but it's interesting to know about it.
http://www.archives.gov/federal-registe ... reduction/
http://reginfo.gov/public/reginfo/pra.pdf
http://www.cio.noaa.gov/itmanagement/pra.htm
http://www.firstgov.gov/webcontent/reqs ... tion.shtml
http://www.ombwatch.org/article/articleview/182/1/67
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c104:S.244.ENR:
I'm not that keen on testing it like Mr. Lawrence did though. With my luck Uncle Sam would find something I forgot or dig through the myriad laws already on the books and find something that would stand up. I think I'll pass...but it's interesting to know about it.
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