SEX CAMPS?

jenn_nc · Post by **jenn_nc** » Thu May 25, 2006 2:58 pm

I did not want to fail to understand your directions or be misguided by misattemps to improperly manifest bad guidance or mere mistakes in communicating the proper pathways that would not lead me in the wrong direction or not causing anyone even slightest confusion with the message of wayfaring.

Huh?

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu May 25, 2006 3:16 pm

I think is a bad tranny joke. i.e. "Starting from 'the man' you went in the direction of woman."
Hey, boys, this is really potentially offensive. Many people who go through hormone or surgical reassignmet dont' feel that they started 'from the man' and became a woman (or vice versa in the case of f2m) but that she (for example) got her body to align with her mind/spirit. I know that the surgery freaks a lot of guys out, but if you were never really a "guy" to begin with it might seem like lipo, or a tumor removal or even a haircut. (I'm guessing, I don't have first hand knowledge or even real 2nd hand knowledge, just a little bit that I've read.) Think of a guy getting breast reduction if he had somehow been cursed with DDs.

Although I find trannies who forge a 'trans-identity' most interesting, in part because I have forged myself a partially 'inter-sexed identity' so there are resonances, they are by no means the majority. jenn has been forthcoming about her experience, but that does not mean that she wants the "man-thing" around her neck like an albatross.

It is of course completely possible that this is not a sensitivity, but you should be aware of it, and maybe get to know her a little better before making these sorts of jokes.

Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Fri May 26, 2006 9:08 am

...yes...they are in heaven...and everywhere else. Didn't mean a bad joke, Fishy, only building on Jenn_nc's teasing of the thread's author in which she (Jenn) was open and cool enough with herself to bring it up. We all, I hope, start from the wo/man, moving and growing to what we can be, whatever the "direction".

Kinetic IV · Post by **Kinetic IV** » Fri May 26, 2006 9:11 am

I found Jenn's website to be interesting and make that downright inspiring.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Fri May 26, 2006 9:23 am

Bin Noddin wrote:...yes...they are in heaven...and everywhere else. Didn't mean a bad joke, Fishy, only building on Jenn_nc's teasing of the thread's author in which she (Jenn) was open and cool enough with herself to bring it up. We all, I hope, start from the wo/man, moving and growing to what we can be, whatever the "direction".

Thanks for clarifying.

Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Fri May 26, 2006 9:36 am

((((((Fishy - Jenn_NC)))))) Oh, what the hell - (((((Yogiii2))))) too.

jenn_nc · Post by **jenn_nc** » Sun May 28, 2006 1:36 pm

Yogiii2: I am sorry if I or any others responding to my post caused you any grief. I was serious about my post and I hope we run into each other on the Playa. My two cents worth: Burners are notorious jokesters and pranksters. Don’t take anything too seriously unless they say it’s serious.

> Kinetic IV said, "I found Jinn’s website to be interesting and make that downright inspiring."

Thank you Kinetic IV. Usually, Flash is used just to make pretty banners kinetic and HTML code is the brunt of the website. I created my website in 100% Flash. I put up some new pictures and new music I composed at www.jennjacobsen.com

>MoisturePup said, “Jenn, I don't mind a tranny. Come look me up and I'll accompany >you.
>
>-Moist”

Moist: If you’re serious so am I.

>Bin Noddin said,”Same direction that you went . . .” and “No, listen closely and start >again . . .” >and .yes...they are in heaven...and everywhere else. Didn't mean a bad joke, Fishy, only >building on Jenn_nc's teasing of the thread's author in which she (Jenn) was open and >cool >enough with herself to bring it up. We all, I hope, start from the wo/man, moving >and growing >to what we can be, whatever the ‘direction‘.” and
>((((((Fishy - Jenn_NC)))))) Oh, what the hell - (((((Yogiii2))))) too.

I wasn’t teasing the thread’s author I was serious. I didn’t take it as a bad joke, but even if I did I understand that being openly transgendered in today’s intolerant society makes one an easy target. Thank you for the “open and cool” compliment.

>TheCryptofishist said, “ahem? Yes?” and
“
>I think is a bad tranny joke. i.e. "Starting from 'the man' you went in the direction of >woman."
>Hey, boys, this is really potentially offensive. Many people who go through hormone or >surgical reassignment dont' feel that they started 'from the man' and became a woman (or >vice versa in the case of f2m) but that she (for example) got her body to align with her >mind/spirit. I know that the surgery freaks a lot of guys out, but if you were never really >a "guy" >to begin with it might seem like lipo, or a tumor removal or even a haircut. (I'm >guessing, I >don't have first hand knowledge or even real 2nd hand knowledge, just a little >bit that I've >read.) Think of a guy getting breast reduction if he had somehow been >cursed with DDs.

>Although I find trannies who forge a 'trans-identity' most interesting, in part because I >have >forged myself a partially 'inter-sexed identity' so there are resonances, they are by >no means >the majority. jenn has been forthcoming about her experience, but that does >not mean that >she wants the "man-thing" around her neck like an albatross.

>It is of course completely possible that this is not a sensitivity, but you should be aware >of it, >and maybe get to know her a little better before making these sorts of jokes.”

Cryptofish: Thank you for your sensitivity and support. You are definitely in tune with people that are sexual minorities. I hope to run into you on the Playa this year.

For general reference here is a link to a PhD’s description and explanation of transgender

http://www.transgendercare.com/guidance ... gender.htm

Everyone should read Burning Man’s 10 Principals, especially the radical self-expression one.
http://regionals.burningman.com/network_principles.html

Jenn O+>

uncle sticky · Post by **uncle sticky** » Mon May 29, 2006 12:27 am

I sense a hostility to the poster that concerns me. Why give someone a hard time because you don't think the post reflects what you see as the proper attitude? Why steer him to the porta potties, or a gay camp, or dismiss his question? If the event is supposed to be what you want it to be, then why mock someone who doesn't show the appropriate (in your view) credentials? Is this board a revenge fueled exercise? An attempt to strike a blow against the machine that may have fallen askance? If you don't know where a guy could find anonymous sex in black rock, say so, or be silent. If you feel that a man asking about it makes him a frat boy rapist, then say so. If only woman or gay men or lesbain women are, in your view, allowed to ask about non-commital sex at burning man, then say so. Asking about a place to get laid in a consensual, if detached, manner is bad, why?

jenn_nc · Post by **jenn_nc** » Mon May 29, 2006 5:49 am

uncle sticky: You are on my wavelength and have the true spirit of Burning Man. In my opinion, nodoby at Burning Man should ever be critizided unless they have violated someone's rights or hurt someone. This would violate several of the 10 priciples of Burning Man http://regionals.burningman.com/network_principles.html

Our experiment in temporary community is what separates we Burners from the rest of society.

blyslv · Post by **blyslv** » Tue May 30, 2006 8:23 am

What's wrong with critiquing people who ask stupid quesitons? What's wrong with calling someone too lazy to figure something out exactly what they are, a lazy dumbass? What's wrong with perceiving an attitude of take take take and calling someone on it?

Don't suffer the fools, they will drag you down to their level.

Kinetic IV · Post by **Kinetic IV** » Tue May 30, 2006 8:56 am

blyslv wrote:What's wrong with critiquing people who ask stupid quesitons? What's wrong with calling someone too lazy to figure something out exactly what they are, a lazy dumbass? What's wrong with perceiving an attitude of take take take and calling someone on it?

Don't suffer the fools, they will drag you down to their level.

Here's a link to somewhere that will you call people lazy dumbasses and mock them as much as you want. I'll even provide you a link so you don't have to click your heels together 3 times to go home, you can click once.

http://bbs.3playa.com

So...that being said don't let the virtual door hit ya where the good Lord split ya. And Plonk is just a smilie away if you don't like my post.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Tue May 30, 2006 9:18 am

blyslv wrote:Don't suffer the fools, they will drag you down to their level.

As to suffering fools, what of the fools who jump into a sensitive issue with a half-baked aphorism? Yeah, let's ignore the hard won wisdom of someone with 25 years of mental illness trying to untangle the internalized luniphobia and the ugly, ignorant predjudices of the outside world and declare her truth and a wider truth--that the mentally ill deserve to have recognition of the complexities of their lives. Add to that a stupid phrasology like "your skin is too thin" to someone who has had to unlearn learned helplessness and in that unlearning has found that she dare not let the little things go by lest she fall into her previous apathy.

Meanwhile, another question:
I see you here a lot since I stopped signing into that other board. Having pushed me into a self-imposed exile from your gated community are you trying to push me out of shanty town as well, or do you miss me?

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Tue May 30, 2006 9:22 am

jenn_nc wrote:uncle sticky: You are on my wavelength and have the true spirit of Burning Man. In my opinion, nodoby at Burning Man should ever be critizided unless they have violated someone's rights or hurt someone.

For what it's worth, jenn, I met my husband at a party like those camps discussed and my experience of such is that the best way to make sure such parties work is to protect the women from men who do not know how to behave. My reading of the starter of the thread was that he could not take a hint and would not develope the skills in time for the playa. I've certainly had to deal with those in the parties I've been to and been privy to some of the discussions and strategies that trying to find a useful way to deal with such engendered.
Also, I post from work which limits my ability to be as clear as I'd like.

jenn_nc · Post by **jenn_nc** » Tue May 30, 2006 9:26 am

>blyslv said, "What's wrong with critiquing people who ask stupid quesitons? >What's wrong with calling someone too lazy to figure something out exactly >what they are, a lazy dumbass? What's wrong with perceiving an attitude of >take take take and calling someone on it?

>Don't suffer the fools, they will drag you down to their level."

There is an old saying with much wisdom, "There is no such thing as a stupid question".

Sensei · Post by **Sensei** » Tue May 30, 2006 9:36 am

jenn_nc wrote:There is an old saying with much wisdom, "There is no such thing as a stupid question".

Yes, but you have to remember to end it with "... , only stupid people."

Smooches!

kimityme · Post by **kimityme** » Wed May 31, 2006 11:29 am

Jokesters and haters aside: if i may gift you advice on a serious level by sharing my experiences ...

I'm just a girl, married since I was 18, 31 now, and this will be our 4th burn.
We wanted to experience something new, exciting, sexy !

My man found us a sex camp or something like that, ...we ventured inside and I went from OR (orgasim ready) ~ to get me the fuck outta here, in less than 60 seconds...

WHY?
- i saw no other women - or maybe they were just cowering on the inside of other circles - believe me, I tried to participate in the little game of things (it was a casino sorta, where you had to spin a wheel and preform for the crowd to get to the next level or room) well
we spun the wheel, and preformed the sexual act, but I felt so much tension after 30 seconds from the lookers it was a physical jolt to my insides ... not to mention scary, 30 men pushing against us to SEE...
i don't think the two or three people i recognized as camp hosts could have saved my ass (pun intended) if they had to save thier own...

So if you're looking to get LAID at a SEX CAMP, I say you'll have a better chance if you crawl up a chicken's ass and wait.

Attitude is EVERYTHING to a woman...
another year,
we were walking along at night, and met two young men. (25) or so... We discovered one was a virgin. So I asked my husband if i could give him a kiss, and of course he said yes.
but in all the virgin's eagerness he bum rushed me saying something vulgar like --- show me your pussy...
His friend pulled him back and apologized to me and said, dude, i've been here three years and that has never happened to me, and you just fucked it up.

well,
last year, we met cool people all over, no bad vibes at all ... but the one calm, sweet boy i did want to kiss, i held back. I still remember his green eyes, his sweet face and kind words. which is a better gift than any lay.

So maybe you still want to find a sex camp.

Whatever.

I hope this helps you in discovering whatever you're looking for out on the playa.

you are the fire
burn the man

blyslv · Post by **blyslv** » Wed May 31, 2006 1:40 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:
blyslv wrote: Meanwhile, another question:
I see you here a lot since I stopped signing into that other board. Having pushed me into a self-imposed exile from your gated community are you trying to push me out of shanty town as well, or do you miss me?

How dare you give me so much power over you? It is nothing I asked for and I certaintly don't want it.

Kinetic IV · Post by **Kinetic IV** » Wed May 31, 2006 1:50 pm

After reading Kimityme's post...and relishing the idea of bumping blyslv at the same time, I wonder if that camp she's referring to is the same one that generated a lot of heated posts and complaints galore? Kimityme, do you remember if the camp was on the Esplanade or was it somewhere else?

If it's the same one I think it is....that camp gave quite a few people the creeps.

yogiii2 · Post by **yogiii2** » Wed May 31, 2006 4:21 pm

I would sincerly like to thank everyone who has contributed to this topic.

I have found a lot of the info very helpful. However I have also been a little put off by all of the people who want to lump me into a group with some yahoo. This will be my third burn. I do everything i can to contribute in my own way, to add that little peace of me to BRC. I have no wish to cause another person discomfort, nor have i ever screamed show me your tits.

I ask my questions in honesty, and frankly i expect honest answers, if your here just to bitch about what some yahoo has done then start your own damn thread.

Sex Camps are something that to a single male like my self who is interested in women are hard to get info about. But i would like the info none the less. I know that sex camps exist. So please some one who has some info please post it. For all of those who have already given their insights again thank you very much.

And if I happen to get an invite to a sex camp great, I can promise that I will be there to respectfully participate not just to observe.

Yogi

P.S. Jenn I would love to meet you.

spectabillis · Post by **spectabillis** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:04 pm

jenn_nc wrote:There is an old saying with much wisdom, "There is no such thing as a stupid question".

guess you have not been here very long, give it time.

BoxaRox · Post by **BoxaRox** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:52 pm

give it time.

Ok. Time.

Now ask the question again, or what?

Rockdad · Post by **Rockdad** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 6:06 pm

Is there such thing as a stupid question?

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:09 am

There are certainly stupid ways of asking questions.

kimityme · Post by **kimityme** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:26 pm

LOCATION LOCATION!

Yes it was on the Esplanade, very gaurded, red carpet, classy looking, but then ... it was a sex casino. and sinners were welcomed to leave their souls at the door...

Yogii boy... i hope you don't think i insulted you by sharing my BM moments with you ~ as they mean a lot to me.
nor do i think you are a yahoo or sex crazed virgin wannabe...
i also get frustrated with people expressing nonsence opinions, though they have every right...
i suspect you and i ~ and others are curious about the same places we can't seem to find while on the playa.
though,
I believe in fate and seem to find good things where ever i go . . .
who knows ~
maybe this year, i'll find you...

Steven bradford · Post by **Steven bradford** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 2:34 am

I say you'll have a better chance if you crawl up a chicken's ass and wait.

This is the best idea I've hear for a camp in a long while!

BoxaRox · Post by **BoxaRox** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:42 pm

I say you'll have a better chance if you crawl up a chicken's ass and wait.

This is the best idea I've hear for a camp in a long while!

Now just a minute. Help me get this straight. That's not chicken felching, exactly, but what IS it?

yogiii2 · Post by **yogiii2** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:45 pm

So the burn is getting closer and closer does no one have anything else to add to this disscusion?

Bee · Post by **Bee** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:45 pm

well, all i can tell you, (since I'v never been there). Is to not go with a goal and just be your beutiful self. I'm not going to get laid but discover aspects about my own self i was yet to uncover and in the process hopefully make some new friends. JOTS or not.

flipper · Post by **flipper** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:21 am

I'll concur with Bee and add further to your real answer...

Often Burning Man will give you what you need instead of what you think you want. If you go to the playa open to the whole experience, you may make a connection not just a hook-up, or at least gain interesting experiences that will make you a more interesting (and therefore more f**kable) person in the default world.

Despite all the other comments, what most people would term "sex camps" are generally either gay, couples, and/or foreplay oriented (such as Camp Arachnid for rope bondage). As the theme camp list fills in, you can see more.

On the other hand any camp can be a sex camp (well almost any) if there are consenting and interested partners who clean up after themselves and don't show it off infront of the very young burners.

There have been two pamphlets entitled "How to get laid at Burning Man"
from different sources, but each with nice advice.

The older one emphasizes building a playa relationship.
[url] http://www.yahoopamphlet.com/2003/03_howto01.html [/url]
[url] http://www.yahoopamphlet.com/2003/03_howto02.html [/url]
and this is apropos as well
[url]http://www.yahoopamphlet.com/2002/5.html [/url]

The newer one is one of several on consent and boundaries from our beautiful friends at the Bureau of Erotic Discourse
[url]http://www.bureauoferoticdiscourse.org/Publications.php [/url] (lower right)

And in the spirit of that since Bee and I are from neighboring states, she is clearly cohert and from what little I know of her so far - her photo and comment - she seems sexy and awesome...I'd love for Bee to tell me more about herself...

Bee · Post by **Bee** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:03 am

Hahaha. Cohernt I'll have to disagree ^.^ . Hehe. Well I just wanted to add also that I think those pamplets are hillarious personally.

About me? Hahaha. Ok. Well I'm your typical midwestren girl by day and internet exhabitonist by night. :P Not much to know about me. I'm 18, I'm a graphic designer. In my spare time I sit on butt in front of the computer and tempt men with porn. Hehe.

Wanna know more? go to my myspace account: (Yeah we all know myspace is the devil! ) http://www.myspace.com/eat_more_golash

SEX CAMPS?

why?

the REALITY of BRC can burn you.

what bee said and more...