The Bar

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Fri May 26, 2006 9:08 am

I think zule may have been referring to that dark Kentucky beer that is aged in used bourbon caskes that LCN brings in sometimes. Or maybe the Xingu or whatever it's calle.d.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Fri May 26, 2006 9:10 am

Xta_G wrote:I'm trying to think of the Canadian version.. we have Remembrance Day... and I think there's a Veterans Day somewhere, too...

<raise glass of OJ to the vets in the bar>

X.

I'm guessing you have armastice day or whatever it is on 11/11 for WWI.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Fri May 26, 2006 9:17 am

Yeah, I've got the hairy issues, which is very stressful, culturally speaking for a women. And I'm overwieght, or ample or genorous or not Kate Moss. Others have different issues. Surgical scars, streachmarks. Sometimes I get so sick of the pants cannon idea that guys shouldn't walk around in just a tee-shirt. Not that there's never creepy inappropriate exihibitionist non-consensual nudity on playa. There, I bet you never guessed that naked had a "tone." We can open a magazine or turn on the tv and see the culrually approved body type. I'd like the burn to be different and closer to its counter-culture roots. And there's the whole critical tits controversy. As far as I can tell it started as a way for women to affirm the beauty and reality of the tits they had, and it's become (in part) a sort of uber-identification and conflation of women as tits. More objectification. I wish it had opened us to the idea that women running around unclothed on top was real and wonderful, not some sort of abberent event that you have to document because you may not see another pair for a year.

*fishy sigh*

Xta_G · Post by **Xta_G** » Fri May 26, 2006 9:24 am

Yeah, the CT thing doesn't feel comfy for me yet, either... I think having no cameras would make it better, but then I realize I wouldn't be respecting the women who want their participation to be recorded, or the people who don't associate bared breasts with anything personal and private...

I've known a few bearded women... sexy for rockin' their hair with pride :) But I can understand that it is hard to get there.. I'm no Kate Moss, but have managed in the last ten years or so to get to a really good place of loving myself.. occasional blips, but not too bad :) And, my stretch marks will be on display on the playa, too.. <cheer> Wonder if they could be painted into something neat?

X.

Rockdad · Post by **Rockdad** » Fri May 26, 2006 9:25 am

shunned? come on lets lighten up the guy is not being picked on. And I love boobies big boobies, little boobies, and in between boobies!
Why and or how anyone can find any part of the human body offensive I will never understand.

Xta_G · Post by **Xta_G** » Fri May 26, 2006 9:31 am

Isn't being picked on??! I actually went back to check on it.. and MOST (but not all) of the comments were to the effect of how he was a turn-off, or needed to wax, or things along those lines.. all pretty negative statements, no?

G'morning RD, btw.. :)

X.

Rockdad · Post by **Rockdad** » Fri May 26, 2006 9:38 am

Good morning X.
It is called humor much like the "she bang" dude or the Star Wars kid did anyone think he was actually a good singer? or the kid had good moves?
We are all humans and I think it is good to laugh at ourselves as we roam the earth as the surpreme beast of the planet

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Fri May 26, 2006 9:58 am

Rockdad wrote:Good morning X.
It is called humor much like the "she bang" dude or the Star Wars kid did anyone think he was actually a good singer? or the kid had good moves?
We are all humans and I think it is good to laugh at ourselves as we roam the earth as the surpreme beast of the planet

It's good to laugh at ourselves, but we go back to the "laugh with" or "laugh at" distinction. Those of us who were laughed at in the school yard know the difference and find the issue traumatic. I've been accused of being a man based on one of my pics and I hated that. In part because I thought it was a good pic, and in part because the guy didn't take my word for it. Okay on the internet, know one knows you're a dog (and taht takes a new resonance in this context) but I don't lie like that--I assume if I ever met someone by posting I'd get caught. Later someone entered that picture without my pemission at ugly.com. (i've never contacted them to take it down due to wierdness in my life at the time and a sort of frozen horror at the experience.)

Humor can lift us up with the angels, but it can also degrade us. It certainly is used to enforce social norms as well as to defy them. Welcome to the human race.

Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Fri May 26, 2006 10:06 am

Amen - let's have a drink.

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Fri May 26, 2006 10:07 am

theCryptofishist wrote:
Xta_G wrote:Rebbi, I wanted to tell you about my reaction to your picture: I see it, I cringe... and then I think "No, this is playa-like. Its okay that he has an avatar of a overly-endowned girl running and bouncing all over the place." .. then I continue to cringe, but generally laugh at myself for going through the process AGAIN.
I just cringe. I don't even go through it's playa like, because in someways the best part of playabodies is that they are hairy, and have scars and are imperfect and actually human rather than airbrushed and artificially endowed. For me the good thing about playanudity is the relaxation of all humans being in bodies that are good enough, just fine, animal and when you're bubbling with enthusiasm, actually beautiful. That avatar seems to be another concession to the narrow obsessions of cultural beauty.

But then, I'm like that.

Call me narrowly obsessed and shallow then. But that's just me...

Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Fri May 26, 2006 10:13 am

You or not, hold on, Heli, while I run some of these through the juicer for you.

Rockdad · Post by **Rockdad** » Fri May 26, 2006 10:23 am

theCryptofishist wrote: Okay on the internet, know one knows you're a dog (and taht takes a new resonance in this context) but I don't lie like that--I assume if I ever met someone by posting I'd get caught. .

I am so confused I need more coffee I guess?

what does this mean?

Toss me a bone cause I am a dog...

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Fri May 26, 2006 10:29 am

referring to the usage of the term dog for an ugly woman. "Ooooooooooh, what a dog, woof, woof."

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Fri May 26, 2006 10:37 am

Bin Noddin wrote:You or not, hold on, Heli, while I run some of these through the juicer for you.

OK, but only until 1730, then vacation for 12 days, VEGAS BABY!!!!!!

Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Fri May 26, 2006 10:41 am

Where the Falstaff is COLD.

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Fri May 26, 2006 10:42 am

And the bikini's are tiny. Or non existent.

Rockdad · Post by **Rockdad** » Fri May 26, 2006 10:46 am

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

Xta_G · Post by **Xta_G** » Fri May 26, 2006 10:49 am

Fishy, I think you're beautiful :) Sorry to hear about the nasty things people did with your picture.. that sucks.

Time to finish getting on with my day.. busy weekend, last three days of the lifeguard course, so its drownings, spinals, and heart attacks everywhere! Wish me fun... :)

X.

EspressoDude · Post by **EspressoDude** » Fri May 26, 2006 10:51 am

more Coffee?

Espresso Up 4 RD

Rockdad · Post by **Rockdad** » Fri May 26, 2006 10:55 am

YES more coffeee Just spent a month trying to get a gov contract and we got it!

mojo · Post by **mojo** » Fri May 26, 2006 11:03 am

AntiM wrote:US Navy 1979 - 1989, mostly Yokosuka Commsta

my Larry US Navy 1977-1997

We met on Diego Garcia, I was his relief.

I'll bet you still are

mojo · Post by **mojo** » Fri May 26, 2006 11:10 am

Xta - I just read back a page or two - well, if I didn't love you before, I do now!!!!

Fishy, you are exquisite - that's why I brought you that tiara last year.

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Fri May 26, 2006 11:15 am

Good morning all.

Jewel*** · Post by Jewel*** » Fri May 26, 2006 11:40 am

congrats on the government contract Rockdude........

hey BB, did you ever get your beer?

mojo · Post by **mojo** » Fri May 26, 2006 11:43 am

I'm off to the courthouse and then gone for the weekend. Have a safe and wonderful weekend y'all. See you Tuesday.

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Fri May 26, 2006 12:03 pm

Xta and Fishy

I find stretch marks attractive. Reminds me of crushed velvet. I nicknamed my first girlfriend Velvet because of her stretch marks.

I still think that nudity is a non-issue. The real issue is clothing. Way back in the dawn of time some idiot made himself up to be a great high muckity muck because he was able to clothe himself all year round, while the poor guy who had a family to take care of could only afford to clothe his family during the cold winter months. So mr. big high muckity muck and his friends were putting on airs and eventually it became fashionable and if you did not keep up with fashion you were a nobody and probably evil to boot. So there it starts and it continues to this day. What a bunch of crap.

We should all go around naked just so we could stick it to the fashion industry.

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Fri May 26, 2006 12:30 pm

Money is everything whether someone likes it or not. For society as a whole. Fashion = money. Oil = money. Everything = money. No money, no eat. No job, no money. Individuals can make the concious choice to not be a fashion trendy being.

There is something to be said however for a womans ass in a bikini...

Jewel*** · Post by Jewel*** » Fri May 26, 2006 12:33 pm

oh Heli,

I always look forward to that last sentence of yours at the bottom of the page...........

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Fri May 26, 2006 12:36 pm

Because I am shallow and like shapely womens asses?

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Fri May 26, 2006 12:40 pm

Thanks for the support of me as who I am. It warms the cockles of a three-chambered heart.