spectabillis wrote:Stop! at Burning Man wrote:Since last night, when Rex became the first of the stopburningman.org people to show up on my list.
nice try.
if and when you are able to post something new, something that has not been repeated at length, then you might be able to convince someone here of that.
Post something new about what? I'm just the mod on that list, Spectabillis. I know that you won't understand this concept, but it's my job to make an effort to stay as neutral as the facts will let me. Yours too, though one would hardly guess this by watching.
I don't post in favor of their position. I don't post against it. I simply provide a place in which everybody is free to post their views and arguments
so long as they stay civil, something that the residents of ePlaya have little history of doing, yourself included. Take a look at the amount of innuendo you've been willing to spread around in your last few posts to this thread, in response to no greater of a provocation than my saying "Ed, Rex, sorry that I got in your faces, I was out of line".
Yes or no - am I expected to hate these people merely because so many other people do? Is the decision to not respond with hostility one that you even have the right to call on somebody else to defend? Such thinking is where lynch mobs come from, and I am not going to apologize to you for refusing to join one of those.
Stop! at Burning Man wrote:... I'm fairly certain that nobody will force you to sign up at gunpoint, so if what these guys write is not what you want to read, just don't sign up for my list...
lets hope you can still apply that rational thinking since the people you refer to were given more than fair chance to make their case here. when they failed to do so - failed to address peoples responses they cried foul and helped make it personal.
Tsk, tsk, because the regulars of ePlaya never did anything to make it personal, themselves. Like say, calling the stopburningman.org people "asshats" or accusing Ed and Rex of being each other's sock puppets, in the face of ample evidence to the contrary?
Our discussion will be moderated on neutral terms. Their side is free to argue its point of view and your side is free to argue back, with both sides held to the same common sense standards of civility, and those standards will not be put up for a vote. Nor should they.
if i remember right, they even cried that this board was trying to keep 'the truth' from being posted with accusations of censorship.
Yes, because moderators never, ever resort to that, and anybody who says that they do should be ostracised, should be outcast from every list in existence, should be kept from even being heard and ... oops. That sounds a little like censorship, doesn't it?
you see, this goes both ways - your new little group is now going to have to contend with a rather negative association and reputation.
Because I will not allow you or your friends to dictate to me who I will allow on my list or on what terms? My, don't we think highly of ourselves, Spec. I am not unfamiliar with the game you're trying to play. "Go along with my blacklist or be the next person to be put on it, and watch us use our political influence to keep your list idle". Nor am I surprised to see you resort to that, but as I told my own membership today, I don't care and I don't need to.
Rex has already taken me up on my invitation. Ed and their friends will probably follow. If you succeed in getting burners to respond with a good stonewalling, all that you will accomplish is that you will provide Ed, Rex and their friends with yet another conspicuously visible location where their point of view will be the only one heard. Those who are present are free to go along with that, but let's not pretend that they will have been censored by anybody but themselves, if that's the choice they make.
