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Post by Rockdad » Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:10 pm

Actually sounds great! Not getting on anyones case about RV's really like I said some year I could find myself in one at the Burn.

Enjoy welcome home
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Post by mojo » Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:04 pm

Yep - we used to have exactly the same opinion - and still find it easier to tent camp on some of the trips we take.
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please help me understand...

Post by suckers » Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:34 pm

hello...please help me out...

year after year, my friends go to burning man and rage, then come back and talk about it endlessly...

my doubts are as follows:

1...thousands of people on the desert burning things????!!!!!! the desert has a very fragile ecosystem...and i don't care how clean you get it at the end of the festivities, it's the impact....see me, i say?????

2...my friend was raving about all the temples and structures built and then burned....outta curiosity, i asked what they were made of....PLY-WOOD!!!!!! do i need to say more????!!!!!!

3....i am an open-minded fun-loving person...i love to party and get my freak on...my suggestion???? how about every community celebrate Burning Man by staying in a local spot...have thousands of Burning Mans pop up all over the globe at the same time, so no one has to burn dirty gasoline to impact the desert as such....PLUS...instead of burning and a' looting, we all build sustainable things...like monuments and temples and pyramids made out of natural fibers that will last for generations to come and won't pollute the air????

Let me know your thoughts...
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Post by Rockdad » Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:07 pm

Wrong thread
















welcome home?
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Post by Dr. Pyro » Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:49 pm

Sucker, I don't mean to be a wet blanket, but the Black Rock Desert is the furthest thing away from a fragile ecosystem. It floods every year during the winter and in the summer is an akali wasteland devoid of plant or animal life. Until you actually visit Black Rock City, might I suggest (and please do not take this the wrong way or as a mean-spirited comment) keep your ignorent comments to yourself.

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Post by zarathustra » Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:31 am

Well I do hope it's not too late for an introduction.. 21 in age, still wearing the virgins mask, I'm an enthusiast of Burning Man hiding, still, in my virgin mask. Although I've followed the phenomenon for years, through websites and email, never, not once until this year will I my flesh be gifted the sensual differences of your community... or so I hope.

You see, I am quite the stranger.. I alone own a busy crowd of faces, all which talk among themselves with a cruel unrest. This leaves me no time wherein the marrow of my body can desire the friendship of an other. A loner, perhaps, but joyful nonetheles. But here lies my point of concern..

How intense can your world become, not just for a virgin-burner, but also for a novice traveler? The drive from and to Los Angeles would be managable, but what difficulties are there in participating in a world for which I have no past? A stranger..

With no talent of great spectacle, I only have the joy of writing within my passions. Would lucid prose or magic spells make fine gifts? Maybe a story, improvised in voice whether its mine alone or many? What hope is there for a writer?

But anyways, in reality I think I may only be entertaining some insecurities of my own, for I have longed for this trip so much... only now I can actually afford it. Foul anxiety! I'll work on it..

cheers.
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Post by pinemom » Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:41 am

Hi Im shelly!
I joined a while ago, but havent been faithful...IM BACK howdy to you all!
Names pinemom, but my friends call me "Piney".

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Re: please help me understand...

Post by theCryptofishist » Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:08 am

1--desert = fragile ecosystem
No. Not much of an ecosystem, although not quite as inert as Doc might make out. But it's not the Sonoma, the Sonora or either of the other great western desert ecosystems, which are fragile, complex and home to unique flora and fauna. There are plenty of other playas in Nevada's Basin and Range country as well, so a corner of one does not threaten the existence of this particular type of ecology. Plus the event brings in money that goes to protecting the rest of the Black Rock Desert, High Rock Mountain, Emmigrant Trails National Wilderness, including an endagered cutthroat trout, historical sites and several mountain ranges and wild horse and burro herds. And, while it is too early (in my view) to claim victory in the matter of the Fox Gerlach Power Plant, the nationwide awareness and opposition that that project garnered from burners may well have saved the desert from much worse impacts of a coal burning power plant.

2--Plywood
Ayup, nasty stuff to burn and I wish they wouldn't although I will say that as a reuse of scrap material, the temple is lovely.

3a--local spot
There are advantages to having people come together from all over the world. Cross fertilization improves art, music, understanding, mixes it up as it were. Port citys such as Barcelona, San Francisco, Shanghai, Hamburg, Venice, have come into prominance both historically and culturally because they are cross roads of ideas as well as goods.

3b--Sustainable materials and long lasting art
We do have multiple BMs, they are called regional burns. Not sure how you build a pyrimid out of natural fiber, but I have to say we don't have a whole bunch of natural fiber to waste on such. We need it for clothing. Organic cotton is still a very small part of the cotton crop and I've not met much hemp, but haven't been impressed with that I have. And there is simply something primal about burning. Yes, we and the rest of the animals haven't evolved to breath as much soot and other pieces of burn generated particulate matter, but for how many thousands of years have we had campfires? And there is something transformative about fire as well. And well, there is also an important lesson in the transitory nature of much of the art, whether it takes a week or generations all art will pass, it is as mortal as we are. Forgetting that makes us arrogant, has us building thousand year regimes, rips something important from our souls. I'd rather cut down on other forms of burning than this one. (One more side observation before I turn it over to one of the greats, human beings have a tendancy to festivals of excess, bm is no worse than any other.)
Shelley wrote:I met a traveler from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read,
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed,
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look upon my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
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Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri

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Post by sputnik » Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:13 am

Welcome Zarathustra and Pinemom
It's going to be alright.

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Post by LeChatNoir » Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:30 am

Welcome back, pinemom…

And don’t worry about the unfaithful thing. We probably did something to deserve it anyway.


Zarathustra…

Welcome Home. It’s never too late to introduce yourself. I am the official unofficial greeter of shy people and strays. Though I may be gregarious here, it’s because I am at home here and comfortable. When I’m walking out in the default world, I’m often in the shoes of a hermit.

The eplaya is but a small sampling of the folks who attend The Burn. In fact, many who attend either don’t use, or haven’t even heard of the eplaya. There are many people out there in the desert. And though I only personally know a relatively small number, I don’t really look at all the others as strangers, but rather burners that I haven’t met yet. And this includes you.

And your post reminded me of a story. Last year I was out walking in the open playa and crossed paths with a guy who was dressed like a Greek philosopher and carrying a shoulder bag. I don’t recall him actually talking to me, but he dug around in his bag and handed me a small scroll bound in a red ribbon. After getting back to camp, I opened it up and it was a short story that he had written. Everyone in our camp sat in a circle and took turns reading paragraphs until we finished it. What a great gift he pulled from that bag… stories and communal interaction… and all without saying a word.

Black Rock city is a pretty special place. There’s every emotion imaginable and then some. And you can vividly feel each one of them within the same hour. It is intense, but I don’t think you’d ever regret making the journey. It took me three years of trying, and the fourth year I made it.

Read the first timers guide over and over. Research every thing you can about what you’ll need to bring in order to survive. Pretend as if you were going there to live a week completely alone. Then pack up all of your faces and bring them to the desert. Maybe you can let a few of them go out there… maybe you’ll find a new one or two.

Glad you finally made it…
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Post by zarathustra » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:06 pm

Thank you for the welcome.

And your story, LeChatNoir, it is a wonderful tale. Couldn't have chosen a better time to share it. It made a fine impression contrary to my lonesome dread. Thank you.

Here's a question though. I'm trying to log-in as I try to add/search the ride share listings... I couldn't find any place to register a username on the BM site and this one was not working either. How do I get in? Or what other ride share resources are there? I was thinking I could offer a ride to some one along my ways.
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Post by theCryptofishist » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:23 pm

Craig's list gets a lot of bm rideshare.
Is this the rideshare that didnt' work?
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Post by zarathustra » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:46 pm

ahh... this is in fact the listing I was in search of. Thank you.
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Post by UnOrthodox » Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:31 pm

Hi, I'm Josiah. I first heard of Burning Man when I was a HS sophomore, and have been playing around with attending it this year (but i'm not sure where to start). I live in Southern Utah... and I'm a rabid libertarian. Other than that, what else should I say?
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Post by rollergirl » Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:00 pm

I went to a local burn and was hooked. I have wanted to go to Burning Man for several years but it never seemed to work out. This year it will. I will make sure of that.

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Post by akmojo » Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:47 pm

hi from wild Alaska...
I will be coming down and surrendering my virginty to the Playa....
have rented a motorhome in the Bay Area and plan to arrive Sun at midnight... I may have space for a few travellers and/or gear... am planning on staying with the fine folks at the Barbie Death Camp and wine bistro, the Doc and friends will be here in Anchorage over solstice and we hope to meet....
it will be quite the change for me.. from arctic Alaska to hellish Nevada...
I do know the Nv desert though, used to be a USFS Ranger based in Austin many yrs ago.....
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Post by Rockdad » Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:11 am

Howdy All
rollergirl - My daughter went to the SF Decompression with me now she considers herself a burner and hopefully will be with me this year in Black Rock City.

UnOrthodox - I remember high school well sort of...

Stop by the bar threadand have a drink and discussion with us sometime folks

akmojo - I have seen you in the "Bar" we will have to share a virtual drink in the future


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Post by akmojo » Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:56 am

Rock...make that a couple of cool ones and I'll bring smoked salmon and halibut to munch on !!
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Post by theCryptofishist » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:11 am

Just be aware, if you bring herring you will be assulted for cannibalism. Kinda like your polar bears...
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Post by akmojo » Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:46 am

don't want a salted herring... but pickeled is entirely different.....
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Post by Lolie » Sat Jun 17, 2006 5:35 pm

:P Hey guys, I'm Lolie- this will be my 2nd burn. I met the most amazing woman last year (Witchie) who was doing Volunteer stuff in the Cafe and she asked me to come back this year and be part of THE MAN! So, needless to say I said hellll yeah, so thats where I'll be! I had my 21st bday last year on the playa, and I'm looking to having my 22nd, 23rd...45th...

Last year I went with John Brennan photography, they had a booth set up in Center Camp. A very cool group, but I won't be going with them this year, so I'm looking for some new people to spend time and share responsibilities with! If anyone needs an extra whos like WAY MAJOR cool, then email me at [email protected]
See you at the burnnnnnn!

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Post by mdmf007 » Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:10 pm

i am an overworked, overtraveling international emergency manager. I see things that keep me awake at night, emphasize with every victim to the point that i feel pain in my chest and head and constantly put myself and my family in their position making the feelings worse. As I have a home, food, three daughters, an education, opportunity, freedom, and a million other things they will never have.

BM has become the only 2 week period where I get to shut off my phone, and forget about personnel, payroll, travel, Darfur, hurricanes, earthquakes, wildfires, floods, SARS, AIDS, H5N1, Ebola, Hanta, Lassa, and a myriad of diseases, and disasters out there. I rarely drink but can see the attraction of climbing into a bottle, and find BM therapeutic.

Thats a little bit about myself? or the happy version below.

I am A busy professional that looks forward to BM every year. I like traveling, my family, books, mechanical things, shiny things, and am a pretty likeable guy. I am easy going, laugh a lot, and have a self diagnosed case of OCD. ( i count things a lot and have all sorts of little tics)
see you on the playa.

later
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Post by LeChatNoir » Sun Jun 18, 2006 3:05 pm

This is all too often a rough world for an empathetic soul…

Thanks for being one.
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Post by DaDornta » Sun Jun 18, 2006 4:42 pm

Hello all!

My name is DaDornta, and I reside in the 49th state of Alaska!

For the past 3 summers I have attended the Talkeetna Bluegrass festival here in AK (with thousands of others) and have taken a keen interest in supporting and contributing Alaska's unique perspective to the 2007 burn.

I hope to connect with individuals from Alaska (or elsewhere!) that could make my "dream" of an Alaskan delegation/group to travel down to Reno via air and rent U-hauls out of Reno to Black Rock.

This summer at the Talkeenta Bluegrass:

http://www.eideticimage.com/bluegrass/

I hope to promote, recruit and network with like-minded individuals. I'd like to use the knowledge of Talkeenta Bluegrass to enhance that of Burning Man's.

If anyone from AK is on the boards here, look for my network-themed campsite as well as an 'official' sign-up sheet (email and contact info) for those interested in a group trip to Nevada for the '07 burn. It's a little to late this year to make the decision/logistics/money actually happen in '06...

Perhaps at bluegrass '06 we can "organize" and setup a fund to help pay for our travel expenses. . . ?

I hope to make some new friends on here as well!

www.dadornta.com

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Post by LeChatNoir » Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:13 pm

Hello DaDornta...

Welcome Home!!!

Trythis linkout and see if helps with connecting. And hang out here on the board. You'll cross paths with someone close to you no doubt.


I'm always amazed at how bluegrass music has emerged from Kentucky and criss-crossed the entire globe. I remember some years back hearing a bluegrass band from Russia called "Bering Straight". I had the chance to see them in concert here, but unfortunately they seemed to be wanting to change into a country band and didn't play any bluegrass at all. But either way, I suspect you see what I'm saying. Good music is contagious...
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hola

Post by m1nkitten » Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:26 am

I am work and I can't seem to stop reading about BM, I am never going to get any work done. This is my first BM, I have been following it through pictures and reading this website for the past two years. I am finally committed to going this year and meeting a lot of you out at the playa!!

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Post by theCryptofishist » Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:57 am

mdmf007 wrote:BM has become the only 2 week period where I get to shut off my phone, and forget about personnel, payroll, travel, Darfur, hurricanes, earthquakes, wildfires, floods, SARS, AIDS, H5N1, Ebola, Hanta, Lassa, and a myriad of diseases, and disasters out there. I rarely drink but can see the attraction of climbing into a bottle, and find BM therapeutic.
If you'd only stayed at home last year, Katrina wouldn't have happened!

Just kidding, my husband was in emergency services, I know you guys never sleep.
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Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri

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Post by meatball » Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:30 pm

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soso many question .but we are going to have a great time more later
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Post by Sincerity » Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:15 pm

Hello. Sincerity, 21 (well, almost), from Dallas...I'm a little bit nervous about Burning Man...I've never been, but one of my friends told me about it (he had never been, either), and I was fascinated. I can't afford to go this year, but possibly next? The more I read about it, the more intrigued I am, and the more I want to experience it for myself.

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Post by AntiM » Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:41 am

Welcome Sincerity, well, you've taken the first step! Start reading the survival guides, and set aside a bit of money beginning now; tickets go on sale in January at the lowest levels.

See you at home next year!

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