Body Suspension ???

puzzlebox · Post by **puzzlebox** » Sun May 28, 2006 2:55 pm

Hi im a first time burner , just kinda curious if anyone has ever done body suspension at BM and if so does anyone know of any group this year that might be doing such a thing , i would love to see , as well as offer my own flesh up for preformance purposes, if there was a willing and experienced piercer in the mix

searock420 · Post by **searock420** » Sun May 28, 2006 4:34 pm

Check here
http://tribes.tribe.net/9a4683db-b1c6-4 ... caee453425

puzzlebox · Post by **puzzlebox** » Mon May 29, 2006 6:51 am

thanks searock420, funny enough i actually think i might have found the texas group i've "hung" with on that site , much thanks indeed

Dr. Pyro · Post by **Dr. Pyro** » Mon May 29, 2006 2:45 pm

Sweet Jesus...learn something new every day I guess.

spectabillis · Post by **spectabillis** » Mon May 29, 2006 2:53 pm

thanks searock. puzzle, there was someone else asking a few months ago on this board, but since the topics are all disorganized and such sorry, dont think you can find it.

searock420 · Post by **searock420** » Mon May 29, 2006 8:22 pm

Not a problem.Glad to help

BoxaRox · Post by **BoxaRox** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:55 pm

just don't try to drive.

puzzlebox · Post by **puzzlebox** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:05 pm

im confused , as in don't drive after a body suspension ??

BoxaRox · Post by **BoxaRox** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:12 pm

driving whilst suspended is a crime in most states.

puzzlebox · Post by **puzzlebox** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:54 pm

ahhh , lol yes i do believe it is , * random thought , it would be interesting to attatch a rig to the roof of a car pull out the drivers set , and suspend and drive at the same time , iim sure this might also be illegal , but man it sounds like a blast .

BoxaRox · Post by **BoxaRox** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:09 pm

and suspend and drive at the same time , iim sure this might also be illegal , but man it sounds like a blast

Until the air bags go off.

puzzlebox · Post by **puzzlebox** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:45 pm

hmm good point , you could install the rig on a rolling track and then when the airbag inflated you could go flying along the track to the back seat ( removed as well) , of coarse at that point , the words do not try this at home would haaaave to be painted on every door and window

BoxaRox · Post by **BoxaRox** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:27 pm

I'd like to suggest a couple of people whom I think should should try this out before I do.

Sandwichman · Post by **Sandwichman** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:05 pm

One of our campmates has alot of experience suspending. His is tempted to suspend on-playa. The main concerns held all have to do with healing in the playa environment.

puzzlebox · Post by **puzzlebox** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:51 am

hmm, yea i could see that , but i don't think it's anything id pay to much mind to , a tube of triple anti biotic and a tight fitting shirt , should do the trick for any 4 point , it might get a little trickier keeping covered for any holes left on the back of the lefs for a superman ect ect. but you know what doesn't kill you and all that , or mabye ( insert another general expression) where theres a will... yea thats my it's to early to be witty cop out for the day , but i do think it would be quite possible with minimal risk of infections if done right with like a follow up on the healing , if your camp mate is erally interested , and would like any partners in crime so to speak i would love to offer any assistance i can , even down to erecting a rig to hook to , the only think i can't do sadly is throw hooks , haven't gotten that far yet , never seem to have time to have the local group school me on that one yet , but i would indeed love to offer my services

Sandwichman · Post by **Sandwichman** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 7:05 pm

puzzlebox wrote:a tube of triple anti biotic and a tight fitting shirt , should do the trick for any 4 point , it might get a little trickier keeping covered for any holes left on the back of the lefs for a superman ect ect.

The alkalai dust is very good at preventing wounds from healing. You can ask anyone who has had an open wound on the playa. The dust makes healing difficult. The dust is so intrusive that trying to keep it out is not as simple as shirt and gauze. I hope someone can attest to the properties of the dust on wounds.

puzzlebox · Post by **puzzlebox** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:15 am

ahh , i see , yes i must admit , have never been to the playa and my suspension experience has been in texas and not the desert so.. you got me on that one , ill have to think up something crafty then hmmm...

Ron · Post by **Ron** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:17 am

Sandwichman wrote:The alkalai dust is very good at preventing wounds from healing. You can ask anyone who has had an open wound on the playa. The dust makes healing difficult. The dust is so intrusive that trying to keep it out is not as simple as shirt and gauze. I hope someone can attest to the properties of the dust on wounds.

Think scars. I can't talk about the difficulty of keeping wounds covered on the playa as I've never made much of an attempt. However even relatively minor scrapes have left scars on my shins that are still there even after years of healing. Last year was a rough year for me, physically, (think stitches, braces, and so on) and I got about six new scars out of nine or so cuts and scrapes. IME, the risks of infection are low, but wounds on playa don't heal all that well.

Ron

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:46 pm

Ron wrote:
Sandwichman wrote:The alkalai dust is very good at preventing wounds from healing. You can ask anyone who has had an open wound on the playa. The dust makes healing difficult. The dust is so intrusive that trying to keep it out is not as simple as shirt and gauze. I hope someone can attest to the properties of the dust on wounds.
Think scars. I can't talk about the difficulty of keeping wounds covered on the playa as I've never made much of an attempt. However even relatively minor scrapes have left scars on my shins that are still there even after years of healing. Last year was a rough year for me, physically, (think stitches, braces, and so on) and I got about six new scars out of nine or so cuts and scrapes. IME, the risks of infection are low, but wounds on playa don't heal all that well.

Ron

I think someone into suspension isn't that concerned about the scars... But I will attest to the playa dust being condusive to *not* healing. You get dust in that open wound, you're gonna have a heck of a time cleaning it out and letting it heal, which could lead to a nasty infection as it'll be open after you leave the Playa.

Plus, think of this. You're out there "hanging around". a nasty gehenna of a windstorm comes out of nowhere. (You know the ones I'm thinking of.) You're gonna get the shit buffeted out of you, prolly tearing the s**t out of your piercing points, maybe even tearing you lose on one or 2 of them. Now, not only do you have a *major* injury on your hands, requiring stitches (to which REMSA may not be too terribly amused) but you've just laid one helluva elongated scar tissue over a suspension point, making it unusable for suspensioning again.

I dunno. It's one of those things where you have to asssess if the risk is worth the game. Even if I were a suspender (I'm not), I'm not sure I'd take it to the playa just because of how fucked up it could get if things went bad.

(Why do I keep getting these flashes of pictures of Mussolini on a meathook when I think about Body Suspension??)

bb

Token · Post by **Token** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:52 am

All this doom and gloom...

Piercings, cuttings, brandings, suspension ... All been done before on the Playa. No one died from it.

Yes, Playa dust will suspend healing since it is alkali (think bleach in the wound). Once off playa healing will be fine.

I would be more concerned with having a supportive environment than the technicalities of open wounds on the playa. It is far more important to have experienced folks on hand; ones that know the difference between trance and shock. Now that can be a life saver.

Since you hung with folks in Texas, drop a line to Core, see if anyone is going (likely).

Also might want to drop a line to Fakir. He is a regular at BM and loves a good hanging.

Bottom line is; if you find the right crew, go for it. Don’t let the dust boogers stop you.

puzzlebox · Post by **puzzlebox** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:11 am

Thank YOU !Token , my views exactaly, thanks again , it's nice to hear positive points of view for a change , and thanks for the info , i haven't ever hung with the core folks but have with one of thier offshoots , it's nice to hear they frequent ill have to hit em up , and fakir? do you mean falkner from the dallas area or is this someone else not sure myself , although i think i may know who your talking about if he is from the dallas area , thanks again ,
however i do appretiate the advice regarding healing , it just doesn't seem to be anything that personally i would be teribly concerned about and i would agree that one should not put more strain on a medical response team , however the chances of actaully tearing out are pretty slim unless you want to start cutting strings to come down, those hooks can hold quite allot, i've had about 400lbs across my back with no worries of tearing out before , responsibility and knowledge of what your doing and how far your able to push your body stretches a long way , not trying to sound like a know it all or anything , just my take on it , but thanks for all the info none the less
and thanks for the encouragement Token :D

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:31 am

Not being into suspension I didn't know...

But it sounds like the risk of tearout is not as great as I imagined. (I had this vision of a 70 mph gust coming thru, the hanger getting swung around like a wind chime (with the additional stress on the skin it would cause) and possibly the suspension scaffolding collapse (after all, I *have* seen pretty healthy structures that should take it come apart out there...)

And sure - if you *do* tear out, it's not that tough for someone who's had to do it before drop in a gauze drain and do some emergency suturing until they get home and patch up. The playa is relatively sterile, so the risk of infection out there isn't that big a deal. And prolly the camp will have someone who knows about what I call "extreme first aid"... >grins<

I'm sorry if you took it as being negative on my part - it wasn't meant to be. I'm just one of those people who try to plan for the worst case scenario and plan around it. >shrug< And the il Duce comment? What can I say? He *was* into suspension, just not by personal choice (or while he was still breathin' air), ok? (If you saw the picture you'd understand...) PLEASE don't take offense!

bb

Ron · Post by **Ron** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:07 am

Bay Bridge Sue wrote:....I think someone into suspension isn't that concerned about the scars...

You'd think but I've been told by folk into it that if they get enough scar tissue in the right place they won't be able to continue hanging themselves in their favorite postures. Don't do it myself, just what I've heard. :)

Bay Bridge Sue wrote:.... .... but you've just laid one helluva elongated scar tissue over a suspension point, making it unusable for suspensioning again.

Ah, but you knew that. ;)

Ron

puzzlebox · Post by **puzzlebox** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:18 am

ahh no worries Bay Bridge , i just didn't want anyone feeling as if i would be putting a strain on any kinda of medical unit , as i prefer to push my self to crazy limits , i however do not like putting others in danger or doing it at others expense such as a medical team having to take care of me when i do something stupid , so yea def. no worries , it takes quite allot to ofend me and thats def. not going to offend me , it's all good i apretiate all input

Token · Post by **Token** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:52 pm

Fakir is in the Bay Area. You can reach him at the body play site.

http://www.bodyplay.com

I'm sure he can hook you up with the right people.

puzzlebox · Post by **puzzlebox** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:30 pm

right on , thanks again :D