BORG2 tribe has disappeared!!!

gummo · Post by **gummo** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:05 am

http://borg2.tribe.net/

Anyone know what the story is on this?

Post by **AntiM** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:03 am

ManTis ate their heads?

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:32 am

Black Hole collapse caused by high density self-esteem?

spectabillis · Post by **spectabillis** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:57 am

fake controversy for promotion?

gummo · Post by **gummo** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:54 am

http://tribes.tribe.net/therealborg2

spect: I don't think it's a fake controversy. Chicken is trying to take the BORG2 name for his personal use. We're trying to figure out if anyone really cares, and maybe it's best just to start over with a fresh name anyway. But some say the BORG2 name is worth fighting for. So yeah, maybe drama is behind it after all. But at least it's an interesting drama (to me).

ibdave · Post by **ibdave** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:57 am

Here's my Vote...... X Don't Care

spectabillis · Post by **spectabillis** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 3:24 pm

well thats not too surprising, didnt he have something against certain people owning 'cacaphony'?

gummo · Post by **gummo** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 3:31 pm

<< didnt he have something against certain people owning 'cacaphony'? >>

Good memore. Yes, he is very sensitive about that too. He is always antaganozing the current owner of the Cacophony tribe. Chicken John thinks that Cacophony belongs to him. But that's another story.

spectabillis · Post by **spectabillis** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:47 pm

someone just up and deletes all the posts, all the pictures, all the topic discussions, the whole thing - and never, ever asked for feedback from other members of the group?

why anyone would want to be dragged into the middle of that kind of ego posturing and control-freak politics is beyond me.. well, if someone really really really needed art money i guess they might. probably not for long though.

other than the occasional commerce violation or posting another persons phone number or address, there is a damn good reason why a moderator here would never do something like that. god i hope it stays that way because thats how you empower the community, not some external and disconnected authority figure. the people of the board that make its community are the ones to make that kind of decision.

spectabillis · Post by **spectabillis** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:53 pm

hunh... there is a pretty big correction to make: the old eplaya bbs is no longer archived on-line. at least its still saved.

gummo · Post by **gummo** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:27 am

<< hunh... there is a pretty big correction to make: the old eplaya bbs is no longer archived on-line. at least its still saved. >>

I have tried to access it a few times for historical reasons, to no avail.

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic.php?t=1919

spectabillis · Post by **spectabillis** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:14 am

yep, and it sucked when nipples passed away since there were several requests for access to his posts.

EDIT: you know, i need to back off from being as critical of the group as i am, i definately dont want to discount the fantastic efforts that were made in the name of art and bringing people together in support of it. yes, there was controversy, and i can only guess thats part of chicken johns thing in galvanizing support and attention to a cause. i guess my main issue is something that many people came together in building, and a single person or few take it all out like that. thats inconsiderate, and does not do much for motivation in getting people behind a cause - especially one that promotes "democratic voting."

and i also dont want anyone to think that my words are any more important than anyone else's with the comments around moderation.

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:33 pm

Last edited by spectabillis on Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:33 am; edited 1 time in total. (79 percent)

Spectabilis, looks like we missed out on the really good part. Don't worry about people misinterpreting what you say. You're advocating openness and preservation. Nothing wrong with that.
If others are having a problem trying to limit and control the main group,,,,,,,,,,no one will confuse your ideals with theirs.
Dan

spectabillis · Post by **spectabillis** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 4:05 pm

nope, 'EDIT' is what i added.

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 9:40 pm

It sure got a lot of people focused on art last year. Last year was an amazing rise from '04. There was also more of a community spirit last year that I believe the whole BORG2 movement acted to catylize. There was definately a *WE* can do it spirit. The borg seemed to make some beneficial changes in their focus. Not sure if they *really* changed all that much, but it sure *seemed* like they got more artists out there.

spectabillis · Post by **spectabillis** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:51 am

geekster wrote:It sure got a lot of people focused on art last year. Last year was an amazing rise from '04. There was also more of a community spirit last year that I believe the whole BORG2 movement acted to catylize. There was definately a *WE* can do it spirit. The borg seemed to make some beneficial changes in their focus. Not sure if they *really* changed all that much, but it sure *seemed* like they got more artists out there.

right on geekster, that deserved a second quoting.

BORG2 tribe has disappeared!!!

BORG2 tribe has disappeared!!!

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