Why is David Best allowed to sell cigarettes here?

SED · Post by **SED** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:47 pm

I mean come on. Is the guy special or something? And what's up with him getting his own brand of shade material?

Sensei · Post by **Sensei** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:32 am

"Ever been to Utah? Ra-di-a-tion. Yes, indeed. You hear the most outrageous lies about it. Half-baked goggle-box do-gooders telling everybody it's bad for you. Pernicious nonsense. Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year. They ought to have them, too. When they canceled the project it almost did me in. One day my mind was full to bursting. The next day - nothing. Swept away. But I'll show them. I had a lobotomy in the end."

- Repo Man

joel the ornery · Post by **joel the ornery** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 5:49 am

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:07 am

as far I'm concerned, David Best can do whatever the hell his little heart desires....

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:31 am

David Best can do whatever the hell his little heart desires....

As should everyone else going to the playa - within reason.

The thing that sucks is that each year it seems that the Best Camp folks more and more sneak in their petty little demands and expectations of entitlement and special treatment that most people are never made aware of. Not that there's any need to broadcast it. I'm just of the mind that if the event continues to consider itself an example of radical egaltarianism coupled with the ol' self-sufficiency thing then annointed semi-celebreties like Best and his camp of artier-than-thou peeps should stop acting with the (seeming) expectation that volunteers from ACROSS the BM spectrum ought to (or should) want to serve high tea and wipe their collective asses.

Lorgasm · Post by **Lorgasm** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:36 am

As sorry as I am to hear that David Best will not be doing the Temple this year, I am happy and feel very fortunate to have seen his work other times. I was moved in 2004 to actually see the temple burn. I hope one day to see more of David's work and wish him the Best.

I am looking forward to this year's temple. It will, as it always is, a bittersweet moment for me.

Peace,
Lorgasm

Ron · Post by **Ron** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:06 am

Badger wrote:...
The thing that sucks is that each year it seems that the Best Camp folks more and more sneak in their petty little demands and expectations of entitlement and special treatment that most people are never made aware of.

Sneak in those demands and get them answered by the Org. I've seen the "featured projects" over the past few years get away with all kinds of special treatment, from the perspective of being the video documentarian, a project member, or friends of the project teams involved. From not having to get the names of their early arrivers in on time, to having much help from DPW, to getting free tickets they sold, to all kinds of other examples, the notion that "radical egalitarianism," is part of the burn is news to me. In my observations there are big people and little people on playa, in the eyes of many, and the rules only apply consistently to the little people.

Now having said that it's also important to note that said attitude is not universal. I've has wonderful times watching when the voice of the Org in question does resist giving the "special people," treatment different from everyone else. So such special treatment does happen, and I agree that we'd all be better off if it happened less, but it isn't universal and there are folk in the Org who are very good at not giving in to it.

Badger wrote:...Not that there's any need to broadcast it.

Nah, anyone who's been around for a while knows all about it. :)

Ron

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:21 pm

"I've seen the "featured projects" over the past few years get away with all kinds of special treatment"

My favorite was ... "can we move that bank of pots way over there to a spot next to your project? Those people over there don't want them in the view of pictures of their art".

So what that was telling me was that they weren't so interested in interaction with the people on the playa, they were more worried about the impression of people who weren't even at the event who might be gawking at photos of their work.

Is there a rule someplace that artists have to be primadonnas?

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:00 pm

Frankly if there were a bank of Jots that I thought detracted from viewing my structure I’d figure why not ask if something could be done ,.. couldn’t hurt to ask right,.... who responded

SED · Post by **SED** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:22 pm

Wish I'd never started this thread now. Lighten up, folks!

Desert Duck · Post by **Desert Duck** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:52 pm

I don't give a rat shit.

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:22 am

I think you have to separate the art from the artist sometime......
Badger, sometimes you seem like a crabby old man to me, other times an astute observer of life...

PurpleKoosh · Post by **PurpleKoosh** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:51 am

cowboyangel wrote:Badger, sometimes you seem like a crabby old man to me, other times an astute observer of life...

Embrace the power of "and," Cowboy.

Oldguy · Post by **Oldguy** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:04 am

I'm planning to set up a smoker's table with pipes,cigars, and cigarettes.
Am I wrong?

robotland · Post by **robotland** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 4:10 am

Oldguy wrote:I'm planning to set up a smoker's table with pipes,cigars, and cigarettes.
Am I wrong?

Perhaps you could make an installation out of it- A big banner that says "FREE CANCER", and a collage of lung and brain x-rays....(Lots of the smokers that I helped treat at the West Michigan Cancer Center ended up with brain mets.)

Don't think that I'm just doggin' you as a former cancer tech and "born-again nonsmoker"- I just think it'd be fascinating to see peoples' reactions, and to see whether nicotine or revulsion was stronger. One suggestion- rig up some sort of humidor.

BAS · Post by **BAS** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:39 am

That reminds me of an old Bloom County strip where Binkley was trying to get his dad to quit smoking. The first part of the treatment involved giving his dad a donut and a large picture of a diseased lung!

B.

Ron · Post by **Ron** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:43 am

SED wrote:Wish I'd never started this thread now. .....

Aaah, and that makes it all worth it. ;)

Ron

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:29 am

Here's my two cents and you can take that to the bank!

otherwise what are you talking about?

AIIZ

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:09 pm

Adrian is right about the special treatment given to some artists at BM and they go around thinking that BM can't go on without them

Nepotism, he called it

Why is David Best allowed to sell cigarettes here?

Why is David Best allowed to sell cigarettes here?

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