That part ain't BS - they do treat themselves rather well on our dime.can't sit still wrote:Sorry about the misinformation. The salient part that I wanted to post was about the lifetime pension for being such wonderful public servants.
Is that part BS too??? We already know that politicians don't have any personal worries about the SSI fund drying up.
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I was looking over the begining of the politics thread and came across this.
Amazing what transpires once time passes by.:
http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... c&start=30
Ah the good ol days.
Amazing what transpires once time passes by.:
http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... c&start=30
DVD Burner wrote:no conspiracy theories now.stuart wrote:de facto, who killed kennedy?
Hey, It's true. I bet they wont show the records. This from the Jersey women, and I'm not pulling cites cause it will be known in time.
as always.
and before I forget, do you belive in the magic bullet theory?
I thought you did.
Ah the good ol days.
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Israel Detonated a Radioactive Bunker Buster Bomb in Lebanon
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?cont ... cleId=3813
What kind of weapon leaves traces of radiation & produces such lethal & circumscribed consequences?
The special report was triggered by the radioactivity measurements reported on a crater probably created by an Israeli Bunker Buster bomb in the village of Khiam, in southern Lebanon. The measurements were carried out by two Lebanese professors of physics - Mohammad Ali Kubaissi and Ibrahim Rachidi. The data - 700 nanosieverts per hour – showed remarkably higher radiocativity then the average in the area (Beirut = 35 nSv/hr ). Successivamente, on September 17th, Ali Kubaissi took British researcher Dai Williams, from the environmentalist organization Green Audit, to the same site, to take samples that were then submitted to Chris Busby, technical adisor of the Supervisory Committee on Depleted Uranium, which reports to the British Ministry of Defense. The samples were tested by Harwell’s nuclear laboratory, one of the most authoritative research centers in the world. On October 17th, Harwell disclosed the testing results - two samples in 10 did contain radioactivity.
On November 2nd, another British lab, The School of Oceanographic Sciences, confirmed Harwell’s results – the Khiam crater contains slightly enriched uranium. Rainews24 also took a sample taken by Dai Williams for testing by the Department of Earth Sciences of the University of Ferrara. The testing - which is still ongoing - found an anomalous structure: the sample’s surface includes alluminium and iron silicates, normal elements in a soil fragment. Yet, looking inside, estremely small bubbles can be found with high concentration of iron. Further testing will clarify the origin of these structures: what seems to be certain at the moment is that they are not caused by a natural process.
What kind of weapon is this? What weapon leaves traces of radiation and produces such lethal and circumscribed consequences?
Researcher Dai Williams believes this is a new class of weapons using enriched uranium, not through fission processes but through new physical processes kept secret for at least 20 years.
Physicist Emilio del Giudice form the National Institute of Nuclear Phisics came to the same conlcusion: “There are two ways to explain the origin of the enriched uranium found in Khiam:
About the origin of enriched Uranium there are two possibilities:
1) this material was present already in the structure of the bombs, but I am puzzled since one should explain the rationale of the use of a material which is both expensive and dangerous , because of its enhanced radioactivity, to people handling it , including military personnel of Israeli Army.
2) the enrichment has been the consequence of the use of the bomb; this possibility is hardly compatible with the known effects of conventional nuclear weapons and should imply that some newly discovered nuclear phenomenon could be at work.
The Israeli army denied the use of uranium-based weapons in Lebanon. So, how can people defend themselves from potential uranium-related harm? What precautions will the Unifil troops in the area take, and what kind of testing has been carried out to prevent the risks? The documentary directly covers those qestions.
Translation by Desiree Berlangieri and Maria Letizia Tesorini
http://www.rainews24.rai.it/ran24/inchi ... ba_ing.asp
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DVD, there's no telling what the military has up it's sleeve.
Here's a writeup that seems very puzzling and yet very true.
http://www.keelynet.com/energy/entebbe.htm
There's lots of cyber BS floatinmg around. Who knows?
Here's a writeup that seems very puzzling and yet very true.
http://www.keelynet.com/energy/entebbe.htm
There's lots of cyber BS floatinmg around. Who knows?
I don't post things because I believe that they are the absolute truth. I post them because I believe that they should be considered.
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can't sit still wrote:DVD, there's no telling what the military has up it's sleeve.
Here's a writeup that seems very puzzling and yet very true.
http://www.keelynet.com/energy/entebbe.htm
There's lots of cyber BS floatinmg around. Who knows?
Uuuummmm, sorry to tell you but that does seem like a B.S. site.
That's why I like to stick with legitimate sites.
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Radioactive Bunker Bomb!
Who cares when the US explodes them all the times- Depleted Uranium bombs. They're not illegal. We even have our soldiers camp in the same areas!
The Gulf War Vets are starting off now because of related illnesses. In ten years, the Iraq War Vets will be dying from their exposure!
In prison!
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PS- Gee that's funny. Joel the Apeman had a post here just before mine on Friedman's dumb 9/11 explaination and he's deleted it. Something very wrong about that Guy must be Gulf War syndrome or something!
Who cares when the US explodes them all the times- Depleted Uranium bombs. They're not illegal. We even have our soldiers camp in the same areas!
The Gulf War Vets are starting off now because of related illnesses. In ten years, the Iraq War Vets will be dying from their exposure!
Lets hope that he gets another four years and more!!!DVD Burner wrote:Secret agents had hustled Tanu off to Washington to advise Condoleezza Rice on a new hair style and wardrobe. It seems some people were complaining that she had that "Mary Tyler Moore" look; and maybe braids and beads would toughen her image and help the administration in the hood.
Lord have mercy. I really hope that does'nt happen.......then again that would be rather funny huh?
I need all the humor I can get from this administration. what am I gonna do without Bush if he does'nt get another 4 years.
I mean you just can't make funny shit like this up;
It's still funny.
In prison!
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PS- Gee that's funny. Joel the Apeman had a post here just before mine on Friedman's dumb 9/11 explaination and he's deleted it. Something very wrong about that Guy must be Gulf War syndrome or something!
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DVD, what is it that makes E-playa mellow and informative?
What is it that makes Tribe argumentive and hostile?
Burners both, but with a different MO. Does Tribe attract people who are more ridgid, dogmatic and uncompromising?
I've found E-playa to be very civil. Do the dogmatic people stay away from here because nobody will take the bait? Even Cabana Springs couldn't wind anyone up.
LOTS of people enjoy yanking other people's chain. If we're too mellow...,do they just go away???
Dan
What is it that makes Tribe argumentive and hostile?
Burners both, but with a different MO. Does Tribe attract people who are more ridgid, dogmatic and uncompromising?
I've found E-playa to be very civil. Do the dogmatic people stay away from here because nobody will take the bait? Even Cabana Springs couldn't wind anyone up.
LOTS of people enjoy yanking other people's chain. If we're too mellow...,do they just go away???
I don't post things because I believe that they are the absolute truth. I post them because I believe that they should be considered.
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J.C. ON C-SPAN! SUNDAY.
J.C. ON C-SPAN! SUNDAY.
3 Hour interview with Carter.
12 NOON EST 9AM. PST.
If you dont have cable you can watch it online LIVE @ http://www.C-SPAN.ORG
www.c-span.org/homepage.asp
Or you can check it LIVE also on my Playacast Blog @ www.playacast.blogspot.com
If your system and internet connection is up to spec it should come up fine.
Pass it on.

3 Hour interview with Carter.
12 NOON EST 9AM. PST.
If you dont have cable you can watch it online LIVE @ http://www.C-SPAN.ORG
www.c-span.org/homepage.asp
Or you can check it LIVE also on my Playacast Blog @ www.playacast.blogspot.com
If your system and internet connection is up to spec it should come up fine.
Pass it on.
can't sit still wrote:DVD, what is it that makes E-playa mellow and informative?
What is it that makes Tribe argumentive and hostile?
Burners both, but with a different MO. Does Tribe attract people who are more ridgid, dogmatic and uncompromising?
I've found E-playa to be very civil. Do the dogmatic people stay away from here because nobody will take the bait? Even Cabana Springs couldn't wind anyone up.
LOTS of people enjoy yanking other people's chain. If we're too mellow...,do they just go away???
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yo, dick smack.Apollonaris Zeus wrote: AIIZ
PS- Gee that's funny. Joel the Apeman had a post here just before mine on Friedman's dumb 9/11 explaination and he's deleted it. Something very wrong about that Guy must be Gulf War syndrome or something!
i didn't delete anything.
don't assume you know anything about me, and better yet, don't comment as though you do.
is that clear enough, or should i contact a moderator?
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Having Pinned Little Hope on Talks, Many Iraqis Appear to Be Beyond Disappointment
By KIRK SEMPLE
Published: December 1, 2006
BAGHDAD, Nov. 30 — Even if Sana al-Nabhani had cared about the summit meeting in Jordan on Thursday between Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki and President Bush, she would not have been able to watch the news. As usual, Iraqis went without electricity from the national grid for most of the day and she could not find any gasoline to run her personal generator.
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The Reach of War
Go to Complete Coverage » Told by a reporter later in the day about the meeting’s outcome, Ms. Nabhani, a 34-year-old homemaker, scoffed: “Is that all? Was that even worth the fuel consumed by their airplanes?â€
By KIRK SEMPLE
Published: December 1, 2006
BAGHDAD, Nov. 30 — Even if Sana al-Nabhani had cared about the summit meeting in Jordan on Thursday between Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki and President Bush, she would not have been able to watch the news. As usual, Iraqis went without electricity from the national grid for most of the day and she could not find any gasoline to run her personal generator.
Skip to next paragraph
The Reach of War
Go to Complete Coverage » Told by a reporter later in the day about the meeting’s outcome, Ms. Nabhani, a 34-year-old homemaker, scoffed: “Is that all? Was that even worth the fuel consumed by their airplanes?â€
Stupidity is the quality or condition of being stupid, or lacking intelligence, as opposed to being merely ignorant or uneducated. This quality can be attributed to both an individual himself (e.g. Penny Person is stupid) or his actions, words or beliefs (e.g., Penny Person's policies are stupid). The term can thus also refer to poor use of judgement, or insensitivity to nuances in a person who is otherwise intelligent. The determination of who is stupid is relatively difficult, despite attempts to measure intelligence (and thus stupidity) such as IQ tests. The adjective is also used as a general pejorative (e.g. I didn't borrow your stupid cap - go look for it yourself.)
Recently a great deal of attention has been paid to another class of stupidity: stupid actions by those that are very educated and worldly. It is an important subject as it is increasingly evident that powerful, and generally very intelligent, people sometimes do stupid things. In recent years a number of notions such as groupthink have been developed to explain this. This is a fairly new topic for researchers and there are still few academic works on the subject, though in the 19th Century Oscar Wilde wrote There is no sin except stupidity. [1]
Otherwise intelligent individuals may also become stupid when their rational thought is derailed by strong opinions or rigid beliefs. In this case the victim falls into confirmation bias and begins selecting data: becoming intentionally blind and deaf to contrary evidence, while at the same time collecting evidence which supports the beliefs. Rather than being based on low intelligence or missing knowledge, this is the stupidity of closed-mindedness and willful ignorance. Note that modern science specifically evolved to combat this form of stupidity. During scientific thought we should constantly criticise our own beliefs and assumptions (attempt to disprove hypotheses), while also using humility and extreme self-honesty to reduce our ego-based biases.
The Encyclopedia of Stupidity by Matthijs van Boxsel is based on the author's contention that "stupidity is in fact the foundation of our civilization" and his idea that no one is intelligent enough to realise how stupid they are. This is not as stupid as it sounds if one includes in the definition of stupidity "unwitting self-destruction, the ability to act against one's best wishes". A saying attributed to Albert Einstein is "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Stupidity may be more accurately viewed not the opposite of intelligence but as a kind of flawed or absence of intelligence, the darkness that makes the light of true intelligence visible. Contrasted with ignorance, which is the lack of knowledge, not the lack of intelligence.
A popular aphorism goes, " The stupider something seems, the more important it probably is. "
Don't be stupid...
Recently a great deal of attention has been paid to another class of stupidity: stupid actions by those that are very educated and worldly. It is an important subject as it is increasingly evident that powerful, and generally very intelligent, people sometimes do stupid things. In recent years a number of notions such as groupthink have been developed to explain this. This is a fairly new topic for researchers and there are still few academic works on the subject, though in the 19th Century Oscar Wilde wrote There is no sin except stupidity. [1]
Otherwise intelligent individuals may also become stupid when their rational thought is derailed by strong opinions or rigid beliefs. In this case the victim falls into confirmation bias and begins selecting data: becoming intentionally blind and deaf to contrary evidence, while at the same time collecting evidence which supports the beliefs. Rather than being based on low intelligence or missing knowledge, this is the stupidity of closed-mindedness and willful ignorance. Note that modern science specifically evolved to combat this form of stupidity. During scientific thought we should constantly criticise our own beliefs and assumptions (attempt to disprove hypotheses), while also using humility and extreme self-honesty to reduce our ego-based biases.
The Encyclopedia of Stupidity by Matthijs van Boxsel is based on the author's contention that "stupidity is in fact the foundation of our civilization" and his idea that no one is intelligent enough to realise how stupid they are. This is not as stupid as it sounds if one includes in the definition of stupidity "unwitting self-destruction, the ability to act against one's best wishes". A saying attributed to Albert Einstein is "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Stupidity may be more accurately viewed not the opposite of intelligence but as a kind of flawed or absence of intelligence, the darkness that makes the light of true intelligence visible. Contrasted with ignorance, which is the lack of knowledge, not the lack of intelligence.
A popular aphorism goes, " The stupider something seems, the more important it probably is. "
Don't be stupid...
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Oh so it's ok for you to say that i'm on meds and not I?joel the ornery wrote:too little, too late.Apollonaris Zeus wrote:I apollo-gize to Joel and every gulf war vet!Apollonaris Zeus wrote:
PS- Joel are you off your fucking Gulf War Meds?
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The olive branch has been giveth to you and now I take it away!
I still apollo-gize to other vets!
if the avatar fits then you are it- your an ape.
I warn you and everyone about Iraq and republicans.
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I like Laura Bush. I like her accent and her pluckey looks. She must be the most patient and forgiving woman in the entire world having had to put up with the most impatient, unforgiving SOB this side of Mars.
Crush on Laura. Would she ever consider going out with an enviro-left-wing-shit-disturber like me? As Donald R. would say, "who knows?"
Crush on Laura. Would she ever consider going out with an enviro-left-wing-shit-disturber like me? As Donald R. would say, "who knows?"
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dude, do you think she gives head?cowboyangel wrote:I like Laura Bush. I like her accent and her pluckey looks. She must be the most patient and forgiving woman in the entire world having had to put up with the most impatient, unforgiving SOB this side of Mars.
Crush on Laura. Would she ever consider going out with an enviro-left-wing-shit-disturber like me? As Donald R. would say, "who knows?"
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she's from Texas, that's where they invented it.joel the ornery wrote:dude, do you think she gives head?cowboyangel wrote:I like Laura Bush. I like her accent and her pluckey looks. She must be the most patient and forgiving woman in the entire world having had to put up with the most impatient, unforgiving SOB this side of Mars.
Crush on Laura. Would she ever consider going out with an enviro-left-wing-shit-disturber like me? As Donald R. would say, "who knows?"
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This is 3 years old but...........for those that do not believe me (and you know who you are.):
Of skulls and bones: More secrets of the tomb
Native Americans groups fight to recover lost skulls of Geronimo.
http://uspolitics.tribe.net/thread/846e ... a20dbc84b6
BY NOAM RUDNICK
An axe pried open the iron door of the tomb, and Pat[riarch] Bush entered and started to dig...Pat[riarch] James dug deep and pried out the trophy itself...I showered and hit the hay...a happy man...''
So recounts a document thought to be an internal record from the Skull and Bones Society. "Pat[riarch] Bush" is Prescott Bush, father of an American political dynasty. His "trophy" is the skull of Geronimo, the Native American spiritual and military leader laid to rest in 1909 at Fort Still, Oklahoma, where Bush and fellow Bonesmen were stationed nine years later.
Alexandra Robbins, ES '98, has researched Bush's secret society extensively. Her recent book, Secrets of the Tomb, has heightened interest in the activities of Skull and Bones. She attests to the legitimacy of the story, "The text looks to be an authentic Bones document describing Prescott Bush and other Bonesmen robbing Geronimo's grave and cleaning the skull with carbolic acid." In interviews with Robbins, Bonesmen have admitted that there is a skull in the tomb that they call Geronimo.
Current Members of Skull and Bones chose not to comment on the legitimacy of the allegations.
Apache tribal leader Ned Anderson was informed of the alleged theft in 1986. As an ancestor of Geronimo, Anderson petitioned the Federal Bureau of Investigations to force the return of the skull. Noting that Apaches have a "great fear and respect for death," Anderson said that he hoped to honor Geronimo's express wish to be laid to rest in "Arizona acorn country."
Unwilling to remove himself from the case entirely and yield all his evidence to the FBI, Anderson withdrew his request for action. Instead, he arranged to meet with George H. W. Bush's, DC '48, brother Jonathan in New York City. Anderson recounts that Bush sounded "very encouraging" during their initial meeting. Eleven days later, Bush presented the display case. Anderson refused to accept the skull because it appeared to belong to a small child. Bush acknowledged this fact but claimed that it was the only relevant artifact in the society's possession.
He urged Anderson to accept the display and sign a document verifying that the society was not in possession of Geronimo's skull. Anderson refused.
Since the meeting in Manhattan, no further efforts to recover the skull have been made. Anderson puts great faith in the Bonesmen. "I believe that those who are involved need to come clean on this," he said. "I think they'll come around and do what is appropriate."
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The skull of Geronimo, an Apache chief, is rumored to be in the possession of Skull and Bones.
Jim Adams, managing editor of Indian Country Today, provides an explanation for the notable absence of recovery efforts. "Apache tribal governments seem reluctant to raise the issue because it does violate taboos about speaking about the dead. This doesn't mean they're not concerned; rather they have their own laws of secrecy."
Native Americans are far from unconcerned. Adams' publication, the leading Native American news source, has run several articles on the secret society's alleged possession of the skull. On Oct. 6, 60 Minutes televised a segment on Skull and Bones that briefly addressed the society's posession of Geronimo's skull.
James Craven, an economics professor at Clark College, suggests that such media exposure is leading to action. "In the near future, there will finally be large groups of Natives showing up in front of 'the tomb' to protest this ugly racism and grave robbing by the Bones, and they will not be leaving until that skull and any other Native artifacts have been returned."
Adams expressed similar sentiments. "My sense is that American Indians in general are appalled—outraged by the accusation, but not surprised," he said. "Remains of ancestors have been exploited and desecrated for centuries in the name of anthropology or simply for idle curiosity. But even by these standards, it's bizarre and embarrassing that a supposedly elite group would use the remains of any human being for its own entertainment."
Supposing the grave-robbing allegations are true, why would the Skull and Bones be interested in the head of Geronimo? Robbins suggests that the answer lies in their name. "Bones as a society is preoccupied with death; skulls, skeletons, and artwork depicting death are prevalent in the tomb. When Bonesmen steal things they use the euphemism that they are taking 'gifts to the goddess' whom they honor within the tomb." The focus on death is not arbitrary. The society emphasizes mortality in order to illustrate the necessity of success.
Robbins, herself a member of Scroll and Key, attests to the centrality of ritualized stealing in many of the societies at Yale. Each class attempts to outdo its predecessor in the acquisition of valuables. In addition to Geronimo's skull, the Bonesmen's tomb is rumored to contain the skull of Pancho Villa and Adolf Hitler's silverware.
Robbins expresses outrage at Skull and Bones' behavior. "I think it's ridiculous that Bonesmen's sense of entitlement is broad enough to include items that allegedly don't belong to them. The items they supposedly steal as a prank or competition may be valuable and meaningful to the actual owners. It's appalling that proper authorities have not forced their way into the tomb to retrieve the items that don't belong in there."
The legality of Skull and Bones' behavior is dubious. According to Adams, members of Skull and Bones have violated laws preventing the desecration of graves and should be held responsible as felons. "If it is true that Skull and Bones and its corporate parent RTA Inc., continue to hold these skulls, my belief would be that they are participating in a continuing conspiracy to be in possession of stolen property." Many are quick to cite the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act as grounds for prosecuting Skull and Bones. Ironically, it was George H. W. Bush, DC '48, a member of Skull and Bones, who signed this bill into law in 1990. However, NAGPRA only applies to organizations that receive federal funding. The University, in fact, was forced to return certain artifacts previously held by its Peabody Museum in accordance with the bill. However, secret societies are not directly affiliated with the University, exempting them from NAGPRA jurisdiction.
While the society's exemption from NAGPRA relies on financial independence from Yale, the two organizations are in fact closely intertwined. As Robbins emphasizes, the administration hasn't taken steps against the societies because administrators have historically been members. To this day, prominent figures on the Yale faculty and administration are members of Yale secret societies. There has always been a kinship between society men at the faculty, administration, and undergraduate levels. This close connection may explain Yale's failure to investigate the activity of certain students.
In addition to being high-ranking members of the Yale administration, members of Skull and Bones work in important governmental positions. The upcoming presidential election could potentially pit Bonesman against Bonesman.
George Bush, DC '68, and John Kerry, JE '66, both members of the society, could be hurt by their involvement in an organization that allegedly takes part illegal behavior. "I think these politicians are caught in a real conflict between their loyalty to Bones and their oaths as public servants if they don't take positive steps to return any human remains. The reports about Geronimo certainly poison relations between the Presidency and the tribes," Adams said.
Whatever the repercussions, many see the society's behavior as wholly reprehensible, particularly among those who would run for high public office. "[The theft] is a metaphor for something much bigger and even uglier. It is the ugly racism and hubris of the in-bred power elites who seek to infiltrate positions of power," Craven said.
Of skulls and bones: More secrets of the tomb
Native Americans groups fight to recover lost skulls of Geronimo.
http://uspolitics.tribe.net/thread/846e ... a20dbc84b6
BY NOAM RUDNICK
An axe pried open the iron door of the tomb, and Pat[riarch] Bush entered and started to dig...Pat[riarch] James dug deep and pried out the trophy itself...I showered and hit the hay...a happy man...''
So recounts a document thought to be an internal record from the Skull and Bones Society. "Pat[riarch] Bush" is Prescott Bush, father of an American political dynasty. His "trophy" is the skull of Geronimo, the Native American spiritual and military leader laid to rest in 1909 at Fort Still, Oklahoma, where Bush and fellow Bonesmen were stationed nine years later.
Alexandra Robbins, ES '98, has researched Bush's secret society extensively. Her recent book, Secrets of the Tomb, has heightened interest in the activities of Skull and Bones. She attests to the legitimacy of the story, "The text looks to be an authentic Bones document describing Prescott Bush and other Bonesmen robbing Geronimo's grave and cleaning the skull with carbolic acid." In interviews with Robbins, Bonesmen have admitted that there is a skull in the tomb that they call Geronimo.
Current Members of Skull and Bones chose not to comment on the legitimacy of the allegations.
Apache tribal leader Ned Anderson was informed of the alleged theft in 1986. As an ancestor of Geronimo, Anderson petitioned the Federal Bureau of Investigations to force the return of the skull. Noting that Apaches have a "great fear and respect for death," Anderson said that he hoped to honor Geronimo's express wish to be laid to rest in "Arizona acorn country."
Unwilling to remove himself from the case entirely and yield all his evidence to the FBI, Anderson withdrew his request for action. Instead, he arranged to meet with George H. W. Bush's, DC '48, brother Jonathan in New York City. Anderson recounts that Bush sounded "very encouraging" during their initial meeting. Eleven days later, Bush presented the display case. Anderson refused to accept the skull because it appeared to belong to a small child. Bush acknowledged this fact but claimed that it was the only relevant artifact in the society's possession.
He urged Anderson to accept the display and sign a document verifying that the society was not in possession of Geronimo's skull. Anderson refused.
Since the meeting in Manhattan, no further efforts to recover the skull have been made. Anderson puts great faith in the Bonesmen. "I believe that those who are involved need to come clean on this," he said. "I think they'll come around and do what is appropriate."
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The skull of Geronimo, an Apache chief, is rumored to be in the possession of Skull and Bones.
Jim Adams, managing editor of Indian Country Today, provides an explanation for the notable absence of recovery efforts. "Apache tribal governments seem reluctant to raise the issue because it does violate taboos about speaking about the dead. This doesn't mean they're not concerned; rather they have their own laws of secrecy."
Native Americans are far from unconcerned. Adams' publication, the leading Native American news source, has run several articles on the secret society's alleged possession of the skull. On Oct. 6, 60 Minutes televised a segment on Skull and Bones that briefly addressed the society's posession of Geronimo's skull.
James Craven, an economics professor at Clark College, suggests that such media exposure is leading to action. "In the near future, there will finally be large groups of Natives showing up in front of 'the tomb' to protest this ugly racism and grave robbing by the Bones, and they will not be leaving until that skull and any other Native artifacts have been returned."
Adams expressed similar sentiments. "My sense is that American Indians in general are appalled—outraged by the accusation, but not surprised," he said. "Remains of ancestors have been exploited and desecrated for centuries in the name of anthropology or simply for idle curiosity. But even by these standards, it's bizarre and embarrassing that a supposedly elite group would use the remains of any human being for its own entertainment."
Supposing the grave-robbing allegations are true, why would the Skull and Bones be interested in the head of Geronimo? Robbins suggests that the answer lies in their name. "Bones as a society is preoccupied with death; skulls, skeletons, and artwork depicting death are prevalent in the tomb. When Bonesmen steal things they use the euphemism that they are taking 'gifts to the goddess' whom they honor within the tomb." The focus on death is not arbitrary. The society emphasizes mortality in order to illustrate the necessity of success.
Robbins, herself a member of Scroll and Key, attests to the centrality of ritualized stealing in many of the societies at Yale. Each class attempts to outdo its predecessor in the acquisition of valuables. In addition to Geronimo's skull, the Bonesmen's tomb is rumored to contain the skull of Pancho Villa and Adolf Hitler's silverware.
Robbins expresses outrage at Skull and Bones' behavior. "I think it's ridiculous that Bonesmen's sense of entitlement is broad enough to include items that allegedly don't belong to them. The items they supposedly steal as a prank or competition may be valuable and meaningful to the actual owners. It's appalling that proper authorities have not forced their way into the tomb to retrieve the items that don't belong in there."
The legality of Skull and Bones' behavior is dubious. According to Adams, members of Skull and Bones have violated laws preventing the desecration of graves and should be held responsible as felons. "If it is true that Skull and Bones and its corporate parent RTA Inc., continue to hold these skulls, my belief would be that they are participating in a continuing conspiracy to be in possession of stolen property." Many are quick to cite the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act as grounds for prosecuting Skull and Bones. Ironically, it was George H. W. Bush, DC '48, a member of Skull and Bones, who signed this bill into law in 1990. However, NAGPRA only applies to organizations that receive federal funding. The University, in fact, was forced to return certain artifacts previously held by its Peabody Museum in accordance with the bill. However, secret societies are not directly affiliated with the University, exempting them from NAGPRA jurisdiction.
While the society's exemption from NAGPRA relies on financial independence from Yale, the two organizations are in fact closely intertwined. As Robbins emphasizes, the administration hasn't taken steps against the societies because administrators have historically been members. To this day, prominent figures on the Yale faculty and administration are members of Yale secret societies. There has always been a kinship between society men at the faculty, administration, and undergraduate levels. This close connection may explain Yale's failure to investigate the activity of certain students.
In addition to being high-ranking members of the Yale administration, members of Skull and Bones work in important governmental positions. The upcoming presidential election could potentially pit Bonesman against Bonesman.
George Bush, DC '68, and John Kerry, JE '66, both members of the society, could be hurt by their involvement in an organization that allegedly takes part illegal behavior. "I think these politicians are caught in a real conflict between their loyalty to Bones and their oaths as public servants if they don't take positive steps to return any human remains. The reports about Geronimo certainly poison relations between the Presidency and the tribes," Adams said.
Whatever the repercussions, many see the society's behavior as wholly reprehensible, particularly among those who would run for high public office. "[The theft] is a metaphor for something much bigger and even uglier. It is the ugly racism and hubris of the in-bred power elites who seek to infiltrate positions of power," Craven said.
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