Negative Camp Atmosphere

[pinemom]

some people need stress about as much as others need love

i say let 'em have it

i like you
you can fuck my sister

love,
bedlam

Fire elf...That is true love!

[the fire elf]

some people need stress about as much as others need love

i say let 'em have it

i like you
you can fuck my sister

love,
bedlam

Fire elf...That is true love!

depends on the sister, mostly

[bedlam]

well she's ungoliant.

bon appetit.

write about it when you get back.

she never take no for a answer.... :-)

[the fire elf]

Ungoliant might have either slain (if such a thing was possible) or encaged him in her darkness in the ensuing battle, had not the Balrogs come and saved their master, scourging the spider with their whips and causing Ungoliant to flee.

*casts a look over it's shoulder*

The Balrog ("Demon of Might") is a tall, menacing being in the shape of a man, having control of both fire and shadow. It has a fiery whip of many thongs. The Balrog induces great terror in friends and foes alike and can shroud itself in darkness and shadow.

<catches>

IT DOES WONDER
ABOUT CUSTOM*
TANKER TRAILERS
PARKED IN A CIRCLE
HEAVILY INSULATED
FILLED WITH LIQUID ACID
AND LEAD
USED TO STORE
ENERGY
FOR ARTISTIC PURPOSES...

my precious>>>

*lorded over

[SED]

Hey, let's do what we can to keep the atmosphere positive. For you Fire Elf, it might mean sticking a cork in your ass.

[the fire elf]

Hey, let's do what we can to keep the atmosphere positive. For you Fire Elf, it might mean sticking a cork in your ass.

you've been blocked

cheers

[SED]

Well that does hurt. Serves me right though, Felfy Doodle. I plonked you months ago, but I keep unplonking you just to see how you're progressing.

Not much new in the way of variety or coherence, but at least you've become sensitive. A little too sensitive, perhaps. I mean, I really do think it would leaven the mood of BRC for you to put a cork in your ass. Imagine the anticipation we'd all feel just waiting for you to uncork it.

[Tiahaar]

But its a great honor and sometimes surreally enlightening to have an eplaya shamanic oracle of variable sanity of our very own : )

[SED]

Couldn't agree more, really.

[Toolmaker]

Hey, let's do what we can to keep the atmosphere positive. For you Fire Elf, it might mean sticking a cork in your ass.

you've been blocked

cheers

LMAO

Gotta love that last part.. CHEERS.. ROFLMAO

[the fire elf]

Well that does hurt. Serves me right though, Felfy Doodle. I plonked you months ago, but I keep unplonking you just to see how you're progressing.

Not much new in the way of variety or coherence, but at least you've become sensitive. A little too sensitive, perhaps. I mean, I really do think it would leaven the mood of BRC for you to put a cork in your ass. Imagine the anticipation we'd all feel just waiting for you to uncork it.

don't feel too hurt...

long as i surf posts before actually loggin in, your contributions are not ommitted

snarkiness may be a side effect of strengthening my immune system from having communed with some germs

i'll get better

[SED]

All health.

[Cosmic Code Authority]

some people need stress about as much as others need love

i say let 'em have it

that philosophy sucks, frankly.

originally I wrote back an ironic response, but, on second thought, I thought I would just come and say it the normal way.

if you had said, "some people deserve stress about as much as others deserve love," it wouldn't sound quite as bad.

the "need to" part pushes it ove the edge.

[Fex]

some people need stress about as much as others need love

that philosophy sucks, frankly.

if you had said, "some people deserve stress about as much as others deserve love," it wouldn't sound quite as bad.

the "need to" part pushes it ove the edge.

Of course it wouldn't sound as bad, because it would completely change the meaning and be saying something else.

Sucks? What's over the edge? I think Elf's statement was a bit more objective and realistic. As far as who "deserves" stress, that sounds like a judgement call being made upon others. Who decides who "deserves" what?

I've taken exception to a cpl of Elf's other comments in the past, but I can't argue with this one. People have comfort zones; and, like it or not, sometimes their comfort zones aren't healthy. Some folks in self-destructive ruts are actually quite intelligent, otherwise rational people who will gravitate toward a bad state or scene because it's more familiar to them. Some people "need" sex, some "need" wealth, some "need" alcohol, some "need" abuse, and some "need" stress. Yeah, it's bad for them, but if they don't get it, they freak out. Familiar misery can be easier to deal with than anxiety.

If someone's miserable, I say at least try to help them out of it first. Sometimes people whine and bitch and spread misery without realizing it, and will snap out of it when it's brought to their attention. But if they don't wanna come out of it, or if you're outnumbered, I say bail. No point in being a martyr; go have a good time with people who wanna have a good time. It's vacation fer chrissake.

[skygod]

=some people need stress about as much as others need love= The Elfster

Enthusiasm and excitement are stress, too.

Positive stress is that over which we have control.
Negative stress is when we don't have control.

Rats who were shocked randomly developed ulcers.
Rats who controlled when they got shocked didn't.

[Cosmic Code Authority]

I've taken exception to a cpl of Elf's other comments in the past, but I can't argue with this one. People have comfort zones; and, like it or not, sometimes their comfort zones aren't healthy. Some folks in self-destructive ruts are actually quite intelligent, otherwise rational people who will gravitate toward a bad state or scene because it's more familiar to them. Some people "need" sex, some "need" wealth, some "need" alcohol, some "need" abuse, and some "need" stress. Yeah, it's bad for them, but if they don't get it, they freak out. Familiar misery can be easier to deal with than anxiety.

you used scare quotes ("need") and s/he didn't.

mentally remove the quote marks and re-read what you just wrote and think about how that comes across.

popular New Age meme, that you need to have gotten born into your life circumstances in order to learn. Alan Watts talk (though I do not know if he totally originated it), later incorporated into est/the Forum and Landmark and propagated through cultural osmois.

I changed need to deserve to highlight the less than kindly sentiment behind the statement.

also, another topic and a big pet peeve and hobbyhorse of mine, I find the phobia about judging others ironic. if you say "that's judgmental" you've made a judgmental statement, haven't you? human beings make judgements all the time. babies like sweet things better than sweet things, cry at loud, dischordant noises, cold, et cetera.

phobia over judgement comes about largely from slopping thinking.

sensible advice like, don't judge a book by its cover, don't hate or until you've walked a mile in their mocassins or whatever gets crunched down into a simplistic formula.

I can also disapprove of a person's actions, let's say stealing from their best firend doing heroin every day, without hating the person or despising them or their weakness.

the trick comes down to separating the feelings about the person from the action and having, perhaps, a neutral emotional reaction and yet, even so, not standing idly by.

[Fex]

popular New Age meme, that you need to have gotten born into your life circumstances in order to learn. Alan Watts talk (though I do not know if he totally originated it), later incorporated into est/the Forum and Landmark and propagated through cultural osmois.

Not sure I followed that.

also, another topic and a big pet peeve and hobbyhorse of mine, I find the phobia about judging others ironic. if you say "that's judgmental" you've made a judgmental statement, haven't you? human beings make judgements all the time. babies like sweet things better than sweet things, cry at loud, dischordant noises, cold, et cetera.

phobia over judgement comes about largely from slopping thinking.

sensible advice like, don't judge a book by its cover, don't hate or until you've walked a mile in their mocassins or whatever gets crunched down into a simplistic formula.

Well, you can put your hobbyhorse at ease, because there's no phobias here to peeve at. I probably could have used a less loaded word than "judgement"; I didn't think it would cause a tangent... I used it as an objectivity reference, not in a "Oooh you bad evil judgemental fiend" sense. That "mile in the mocassins" platitude crap was not intended, my apologies if that's what it sounded like. My point was simply that your use of "deserves" sounded to me like a more subjective outside evaluation, whereas my use of "need" implied that some people are simply motivated to seek out stress because they're more comfortable with it.

The hell of it is, I think we both mean the same thing but we have different reactions to specific words, presence or lack of quotes, etc... the perils of online. Meaning gets lost in text. And this whole thing really just boils down to two different opinions of how somebody else phrased something...

gaaaaahhhhh.....

The art of molehill mountaineering.... the lack of beer in this house is clearly causing me stress... coupla Fosters'll put me back in the ol' comfort zone... need to gravitate toward the store tomorrow...