I have to agree with Helitack. Receiving protection from others is not something that I ever count on.
Gov works to take some of the worst people out of circulation but in an immediate sense,,,,you're on your own.
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Protect me the people that write hate propaganda such as this:
Leviticus 18:22 -- "Do not lie with a male as one lies with a woman. It is an abomination."
Yeah, and then they tell you that you must kill those that act like this!
That's Hate language
No god lies here, but they are in the Helenic Religion: It's OK to be Gay or not!
I guess that's what the difference is from a barbaric society that didn't contribute to the state of Humanity and one that has given it it's highest form!
Have a Happy Saturnalia everyone!
AIIZ
Leviticus 18:22 -- "Do not lie with a male as one lies with a woman. It is an abomination."
Yeah, and then they tell you that you must kill those that act like this!
That's Hate language
No god lies here, but they are in the Helenic Religion: It's OK to be Gay or not!
I guess that's what the difference is from a barbaric society that didn't contribute to the state of Humanity and one that has given it it's highest form!
Have a Happy Saturnalia everyone!
AIIZ
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I hope everyone has had a prosperous harvest. The 25th of December is as good a time as any for a harvest celebration,,, or a mid-winter celebration,,,depending on your latitude.
Religion as big business has overlaid their festivals on the pagan ones to expunge any memory of why we really celebrate.
The birth of some man 2 mellinium ago is of no consequence compared to the important things like the changing of the seasons.
I hear that Australia has had a wheat crop failure and is going to cut off India. That's certainly more important than agonising over buying a real/fake tree.
Dan
Religion as big business has overlaid their festivals on the pagan ones to expunge any memory of why we really celebrate.
The birth of some man 2 mellinium ago is of no consequence compared to the important things like the changing of the seasons.
I hear that Australia has had a wheat crop failure and is going to cut off India. That's certainly more important than agonising over buying a real/fake tree.
Dan
I don't post things because I believe that they are the absolute truth. I post them because I believe that they should be considered.
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What you mean we're older then 4,500-6,500 years? Must not get all information from the internet anymore.can't sit still wrote:
The birth of some man 2 mellinium ago is of no consequence compared to the important things like the changing of the seasons.
I hear that Australia has had a wheat crop failure and is going to cut off India. That's certainly more important than agonising over buying a real/fake tree.
Dan
Get a real one so a farmer can keep his job and his tree farm or its a condo farm if he doesn't.
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20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Can anyone tell me at what date was this written into judaic law?
I believe it was written at the time when many anti-hellenistic laws were written around 330bc to 200 bc or so. A time when all educated jews spoke greek not hebrew. For Hebrew to survive, antil-greek laws were created. This, I believe, was one of them.
It is not the word of a God, but a political hate group.
Your thoughts
AIIZ
Can anyone tell me at what date was this written into judaic law?
I believe it was written at the time when many anti-hellenistic laws were written around 330bc to 200 bc or so. A time when all educated jews spoke greek not hebrew. For Hebrew to survive, antil-greek laws were created. This, I believe, was one of them.
It is not the word of a God, but a political hate group.
Your thoughts
AIIZ
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Apollonaris Zeus
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Lust is sin! Sin is hell. Therefore, hell is a fun place?helitack wrote:I'd rather discuss the merits of Angelina's rack...
Where did it all go bad?
Check this out? It will answer some of your Jolie-lust-hell questions
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... Id=7020219
if GW is the hand of God does that make God just as stupid!
20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Can anyone tell me at what date was this written into judaic law?
I believe it was written at the time when many anti-hellenistic laws were written around 330bc to 200 bc or so. A time when all educated jews spoke greek not hebrew. For Hebrew to survive, antil-greek laws were created. This, I believe, this was one of them.
It is not the word of a God, but a political hate group.
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Apollonaris Zeus
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Seems like the Christian right doesn't have a presidential president for this election. Good thing look what happen in last two.
Christianity is so unfashionable!
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/25/us/po ... et.html?hp
AIIZ
Christianity is so unfashionable!
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/25/us/po ... et.html?hp
AIIZ
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Enjoy your freedom while you can...the children of abraham strike again...
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... Id=7681859
Christian world once again attack: Which peanut shell contains jesus and now you see him and now you don't!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6397373.stm
http://www.tombofjesus.com/home.htm
Heracles, They all want to be like .
Next: How Larry Ascended and became Son of God!
AIIZ
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... Id=7681859
Christian world once again attack: Which peanut shell contains jesus and now you see him and now you don't!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6397373.stm
http://www.tombofjesus.com/home.htm
Heracles, They all want to be like .
Next: How Larry Ascended and became Son of God!
AIIZ
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Apollonaris Zeus
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Great revelations on Christianity last week on the History Chan
The Dark Ages! Here Charlemagne's Christians performed genocide on German pagans continuing the religious plague started by the roman christians.
The Barbarians! The Christian Arians perform genocide upon the Roman Christians!
The Dark Ages!
Can't you feel the LOVE!
Somehow for all that has change so much remains the same
AIIZ
The Dark Ages! Here Charlemagne's Christians performed genocide on German pagans continuing the religious plague started by the roman christians.
The Barbarians! The Christian Arians perform genocide upon the Roman Christians!
The Dark Ages!
Can't you feel the LOVE!
Somehow for all that has change so much remains the same
AIIZ
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the fire elf
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...
the writing on the wall looks different depending on where you stand
and how you look...
pillar of salt perspective?
or something more pleasant?
and do you have any idea of who's perspective you've been relying on,
other than your own?
pleasantville 101
and how you look...
pillar of salt perspective?
or something more pleasant?
and do you have any idea of who's perspective you've been relying on,
other than your own?
pleasantville 101
instantiate vacuous truth
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Before posting messages, take some time to read the forums and get a sense of how people interact. Coming on like a bull in a china shop will not win friends - respecting the ongoing flow of conversation will.
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Dear Fire Elf:
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Everyone is capable of contributing positively to the community, and a variety of viewpoints are both expected and encouraged.
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Before posting messages, take some time to read the forums and get a sense of how people interact. Coming on like a bull in a china shop will not win friends - respecting the ongoing flow of conversation will.
There are different areas for different purposes within the ePlaya. Please respect their intended use, and keep on topic, especially when creating new threads, e.g., do not post political discussions in the Newbie area, etc.
"Cross-posting" - the act of posting the same message across multiple threads - is unwelcome.
Personal attacks are unwelcome.
Illegal activities are unwelcome.
The ePlaya is a no-commerce zone. Recommending a good deal you found is acceptable, gifting is always encouraged. Advertising items or services for sale or trade will not be tolerated.
Contributions should be intelligible and add value to the discussion. Before jumping into a discussion, be sure to read the messages posted and reply in context.
Your words are a reflection on you. They are how you will be judged by others. Be careful in how you present yourself. Once you have committed your words, you will have to stand by them and coexist in the community, as they cannot be edited or deleted.
We encourage you to represent yourself as you are known in everyday life and on the playa. Being yourself on the ePlaya goes a long way to building lasting, trusting relationships. Multiple identities are discouraged.
Remember that there is a thinking, feeling human behind every username. Always.
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The ePlaya exists to support the Burning Man community.
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Everyone is capable of contributing positively to the community, and a variety of viewpoints are both expected and encouraged.
Expected Behavior
Before posting messages, take some time to read the forums and get a sense of how people interact. Coming on like a bull in a china shop will not win friends - respecting the ongoing flow of conversation will.
There are different areas for different purposes within the ePlaya. Please respect their intended use, and keep on topic, especially when creating new threads, e.g., do not post political discussions in the Newbie area, etc.
"Cross-posting" - the act of posting the same message across multiple threads - is unwelcome.
Personal attacks are unwelcome.
Illegal activities are unwelcome.
The ePlaya is a no-commerce zone. Recommending a good deal you found is acceptable, gifting is always encouraged. Advertising items or services for sale or trade will not be tolerated.
Contributions should be intelligible and add value to the discussion. Before jumping into a discussion, be sure to read the messages posted and reply in context.
Your words are a reflection on you. They are how you will be judged by others. Be careful in how you present yourself. Once you have committed your words, you will have to stand by them and coexist in the community, as they cannot be edited or deleted.
We encourage you to represent yourself as you are known in everyday life and on the playa. Being yourself on the ePlaya goes a long way to building lasting, trusting relationships. Multiple identities are discouraged.
Remember that there is a thinking, feeling human behind every username. Always.
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At first I thought that it might be a reference to getting some nookie in the the back seat, but in order for that to apply to "drivers" the sin would have to occur while driving. I wonder what that could be...?Bay Bridge Sue wrote:Actually, other than the "occasion of sin" part of #5 (the judgmental aspect of this whole "sin" thing, especially with regards to the Catholic Church, makes me shudder) it's not too bad, actually. Kinda cute.
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its one of those open-end meanings that can really screw up catholics because it prays on their paranoia: ie glutony, pride, sex or breaking civil laws.Nick Collide wrote:At first I thought that it might be a reference to getting some nookie in the the back seat, but in order for that to apply to "drivers" the sin would have to occur while driving. I wonder what that could be...? :roll:Bay Bridge Sue wrote:Actually, other than the "occasion of sin" part of #5 (the judgmental aspect of this whole "sin" thing, especially with regards to the Catholic Church, makes me shudder) it's not too bad, actually. Kinda cute.
Too bad it doesn't comment on the environment!
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This is my favorite "commandment" because it captures the the essence of the American automotive advertising world in one elegantly simple sentence.Apollonaris Zeus wrote: 5. Cars shall not be for you an expression of power and domination, and an occasion of sin.
edit: On second thought I guess it is a worldwide issue. Perhaps that is why the hybrids haven't captured the public imagination, and where the designers need to step it up: if you can't project your power and domination through your wimpy car, it better have a damned big back seat!
