Fuck!

[pinemom]

Now thats a good idea! SED your brilliant! Get a 10 lb bag of cat food delivered...fill the bathtub with water for the cat...empty the cat food on the bathroom floor....hitch a ride to town!

[BAS]

...and don't forget to make certain that the cat has access to a good place to potty, or you will have one fuck of a mess to clean up!


Fuck! I seem to have left the impression that I was considering suicide in the thread about guns (over in a different forum). I am NOT, my point in that thread was that I just don't think that a person with a history of depression (like me) is a good candidate for gun ownership! I'm not happy about not being able to get time off to go to Burning Man this year, but I am NOT going to shoot myself over it! (Besides, I have about 50 to 100 fucking pounds of fat I want to lose before I go next time! It might take me more than a year to get rid of it, anyway! )


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[The CO]

What a great fucking role model you are.

Yes, you certainly fucking showed me. I'll follow your fine example from now on.

[BAS]

Why the fuck is all the spam coming out of GERMANY these days?!?!

[Cabana Springs]

What a great fucking role model you are.

Yes, you certainly fucking showed me. I'll follow your fine example from now on.

Your'e fucking welcome!

[OregonRed]

CO -

Fuck - If you have children please start acting like a responsible fucking adult so your fucking children don't end up in jail too. How fucking difficult is that to understand. Fuck. What a great fucking role model you are. You should be so proud.

Here's another thing. Don't trust a fucking cop. That is fucking precious. Who should we trust? You? The stupid fuck who has children and spent christmas in Jail. What did you go to jail for? Being a good role model for your children? Probably fucking Not!

You want a good fund raising idea. How about you sell the fucking children to someone who gives a fuck about them. Cause you don't. You can use the proceeds to pay for your sorry fucking ass. Maybe then you can get your shit together and buy them back. I hope not.

Fuck!

Time for my 2 fucking cents...

CS you are a shit talking, lowlife, closed minded, fucking prick... If you don't have anything nice to say... You know nothing about the reasons we went to jail or why we lost our children. The CO came online looking for support and love and what you fed him just added insult to injury.

The cops who showed up at our door lied to us from the word go, and while I'll be the first to admit that our home was a mess (the reason we're not allowed to see our kids, btw... not METH, you judgemental fucking felcher), to take them away from their home was far more fucking traumatic to them than living in the clutter that WAS our home.

I could say a lot more, but I don't believe that you are worth the effort it would require for me to truly give you the ass chewing you so richly deserve.

To those of you who lent my husband support (especially SED), thank you. This has been incredibly difficult for our family, and it's good to know that we have this outlet and y'all to sound off when we need to.

I'm sure that CS will have some sort of smarmy, dickish response to my post, but this will be the only time I address him online... I have more pressing things to deal with than a self-important fucking asshole.

Thanks for listening.

[Cabana Springs]

Doesn't change my opinion of my original post.

And the only reason SED bitched at me was for his own entertainment not cause he gives a fuck about you or your husband.

My honest opinion.

[SED]

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 290#289290

[SED]

CO -

Fuck - If you have children please start acting like a responsible fucking adult so your fucking children don't end up in jail too. How fucking difficult is that to understand.

Yo, fuck face. Check this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence

How fucking difficult is that to understand?

[Zulegoona]

I live in an embarrassingly messy house, and I suppose some heavy handed child protection person could see the dust and the fact that I smoke cigarettes in my home as an unsafe environment for children. I don’t have kids, and CO and OregonRed’s situation kind of makes me happy I don’t have to worry about having my children taken from me because my lifestyle doesn’t match up with some dangerously empowered bureaucrat concept of the “Rightâ€

[EspressoDude]

Doesn't change my opinion of my original post.

And the only reason SED bitched at me was for his own entertainment not cause he gives a fuck about you or your husband.

My honest opinion.

My 2 cents:

I have known the CO and Oregon Red for several years. It is an unfortunate situation that they are in. I have also met SED and he is a reasonable person that takes interests in other's well being.

I will preface this comment that I have not met CS, but his comment quoted above is FUCKING SHIT!!.

SED may have bitched at CS for on-board entertainment, but I believe he does care about Oregon Red and the CO; as do most of the other folks on this board.

[OregonRed]

Thank you all for your support.

Over the last 15 days, I have found myself with plenty of time to think about the changes that need to be made in my household (FUCK!!!!). To say that things will be different is a fucking understatement, however, I don't believe that's a bad thing... Can't say I appreciate the reasons for the changes, but because of my friends and family, I believe that we'll be able to make them.

I can't help but feel blessed... The amount of support we have received has been overwhelming. To know that we have courted the loyalty and friendship of so many fine people says to me that we can't possibly be a terrible as the criminal justice system has made us out to be.

For the record: There is NOTHING I wouldn't do for my children, and I know that The CO feels the same way. Anyone who's seen us together as a family knows this....

We will get them back (tho not without substantial fucking hoop jumping). In the meantime, they're safe (with family, NOT in foster care) and they know that we love them. All things considered, I can live with that for now.

[Jewel***]

Glad things are looking the fuck up for ya OR...........

[The CO]

CS-

Try having some idea of what you are talking about before you make yourself look like an ass. Oh, too late. Sorry your father was not what you wanted. Take it out on him.

Fucking Plonk.

[Lassen Forge]

We will get them back (tho not without substantial fucking hoop jumping). In the meantime, they're safe (with family, NOT in foster care) and they know that we love them. All things considered, I can live with that for now.

Thank God!

Having had my own rather dubious experiences with the system when my daughter was young, then even worse ones when she was a new mom herself, I lost any respect I had for the BS system they call Child Protective Services... For every kid they help (and sometimes they *do* do good), they fuck up 2 kids or families to keep themselves in business. Lie to judges, falsify reports, make shit up, endanger kids... DON'T fucking get me started!!! FUCK!!

**ahem...** Sorry...

The hoops suck, but there IS a light at the end of the tunnel. Just make sure you got a social worker that's honest and on YOUR side (some aren't!), same with your attorney. Keep notes, and if something seems legetimately like bullshit, don't let it slide.

And you 2 remember this - you are loved by a metric fuckload of people here. DON'T forget it!!!
bb

[Cabana Springs]

CS-

Try having some idea of what you are talking about before you make yourself look like an ass. Oh, too late. Sorry your father was not what you wanted. Take it out on him.

Fucking Plonk.

Never Never trust the Cops. You should print that on a card for your kids to carry in their wallets. Maybe tell them to just "Plonk" the cops. Don't need them.

Sed I feel the Fucking tide a' change'n

[SED]

CS-

Try having some idea of what you are talking about before you make yourself look like an ass. Oh, too late. Sorry your father was not what you wanted. Take it out on him.

Fucking Plonk.

Never Never trust the Cops. You should print that on a card for your kids to carry in their wallets. Maybe tell them to just "Plonk" the cops. Don't need them.

Sed I feel the Fucking tide a' change'n

I'm sure you feel any number of things. I feel the silky texture of frilly knickers all over my body. Ooooooooh! It's goooooooood!!!!

[MikeVDS]

I don't see why everyone is coming down on CS so hard? Yeah, it wasn't "nice" but for all I (we?) know there might be more truth in his statements than we know. This topic was brought into a public forum without enough details for a reasonable person to understand what really happened. If you don't want people to jump to conclusions about your life you shouldn't be hanging it out in public for everyone to see without any reasonable explanation. I think the positive comments toward CO could be just as bad, by possibly enabling and justifying in their minds their actions, which again I (we?) don't know enough about to make any sort of judgment about. So calling CS seems as closed minded as anyone around here, taking one side without knowing the details.

[mdmf007]

CO Wrote -

The cops who showed up at our door lied to us from the word go, and while I'll be the first to admit that our home was a mess (the reason we're not allowed to see our kids, btw... not METH, you judgemental fucking felcher), to take them away from their home was far more fucking traumatic to them than living in the clutter that WAS our home.


Thats Total Crap Heres Why I believe It So-

I gotta agree with Cabana on this one - Who the fuck loses their kids for a cluttered home? you live in a knife or pitch fork factory? Maybe have grenades all over. I have seen absolute dumps with kids living in them - rats, holes in the walls, no running water etc, there are families living in vans down by the fucking river. I believe your story to be horseshit.

Prove to me that you lost your kids from a "cluttered" house and I will give you 100.00 Bucks. No law enforcement agency in existence will take your kids before christmas before they give you a chance to clean up.

20 years as an emergency responder, Sherriffs Deputy, and bar owner has lead me to sniff out shit when I smell it.

Also - It is completely legal for law enforcement to lie in furtherance of justice. we bag losers weekly by telling them they won something, we found money of theirs, they won a trip etc. Without the ability to lie to a suspect there would be no undercover stings, or clandestine operations.

I suggest you look at the arrest order, warrant or whatever doc they gave you upon release and intake at the county jail - that will list the charges.

Oh Yeah Fuck Fuck Fuck

[SED]

I like fighting with SED

I'm touched. No really, I am. Well I was, until you edited that out. Fucker.

we bag losers weekly

We? Does that mean you're a cop? Be honest now. Are you a loser bagger?


But here's my point:

First of all, the Fuck thread is (or was, or ought to be) a place where people can bitch about anything. Complainants (or Fuckers, as I like to think of them) should feel free to winge and whine without concern for what others might say. CockSucker violated that trust by attacking CO.

Secondly, his assault was not based on any real knowledge.

I certainly do my share of attacking, but I believe the attentive reader will find that I limit that sort of treatment to the willfully ignorant and those who prey upon the defenseless and the downtrodden. There are a few other categories, but those are the ones in which chickenshit most neatly fits.

I know a bit more about CO's and Oregon Red's case, but only because they've trusted me. To me, they're just a couple of Fuckers trying to get their kids back. I could criticize them, but in my opinion, the greater fault lies with their attacker. To label him a Fucker would dignify his flatulent bleating.

It's simply bad form to kick people when they are down. It is not bad form to viciously assault those who do that, however. And that's what I'm here for.

[Cabana Springs]

You think you are Al Fucking Gore or something - SED.

Your opinion of who deserves your attacks and who can be attacked and the 5 possible incidents worthy of attacks and hey look at me I can highlight letters that have other peoples names in it is Fucked up. You may want to consider taking a little break and rehydrating.

And the walls come crumbling down, and the walls..............

[mdmf007]

Thanks for noticing SED -

I was a part time law dog, my real job takes way too much time now. SO I havent been on the reserve force for 3 years now.

Your right, to kick someone when they are down is in poor taste. I was just stating my opinion, that there is no way, based on what I have READ that the story as presented is kosher.

Based on the following. OREGON RED WROTE:
Forum: Open Discussion Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 3:47 pm Subject: do you think i'm oversexed?
Come visit us in Oregon...we'll teach you about good beer.
Of course I'm a bigger fan of good vodka.
Or, better yet, good weed....

SO THEY ARE SMOKING WEED,

OREGON RED WROTE:
Forum: Experiences at Burning Man Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 5:17 pm Subject: Good sex stories
My first year out at BM (2001), my husband and I went out to visit the man while we were tripping.....

OBVIOUSLY DOING OTHER DRUGS;

OREGON RED WROTE:
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 1:17 am Post subject:
During the last three years, I've done acid, shrooms, "e", pot, alcohol, FOXXY, and sobriety on the playa. I have fun stories from almost every experience (FOXXY did not agree with me at all). BRC is a trip unto itself and sometimes more is better. I try to know my mind well enough to know when it's not a good time to do _____. (Pick something from above list)
I have never been so high I couldn't find my camp, or if I was I didn't leave it. I don't even go to the JOTS without my water and I take goggles and a dust mask with me everywhere, so as not to get caught off gaurd. I try to trip responsibly (holy oxymoron Batman) and know my limits.
As to whether or not BM would exist without drugs...probably, but I wonder what it would be like?
AND NOW POT, ACID, AND SHROOMS.

I am seeing a pattern develop.
I havent even dug through the other spouses posts. I read that history and started to draw my own conclusions.

If I am wrong I am wrong. I dont believe that calling BS on a sob story I am reading on an Eboard is kicking someone when they are down. They simply dont have to read it, I dont know them, and dont want too.

But when something smells fishy like losing kids to a messy house before christmas, when I have had a hard time proving a lot worse to DSHS to protect kids. With that in mind I simply read Oregon's Past posts. I clipped some quotes and dropped them above. Thats where I drew my conclusions.

Later SED - Have a good one, or we can argue some more - I always enjoy arguing with you.

FUCK - Too COLD OUTSIDE!!! (had to fuck something)

[MikeVDS]

If you're trying to convince someone here that they are poor parents because of drug use, I don't think you're arguing in the right direction. Most people here realize there is a big difference between recreational drug use and drug abuse that endangers people around you.

[mdmf007]

I whole heartedly agree with you Mike - I know lots of people, Cops, Firefighters, Politicians that use and are productive happy people.

I was simply pointing out that the story above smells fishy so I did some more reading of the backposts.

I have never seen, or even heard about someone losing their kids to a messy home. I have seen it plenty when drugs are involved though.

Was simply pointing out that the story does not add up. I am pretty much done with this thread, but will respond if its needed.

Later all.

[The CO]

CO Wrote -

The cops who...

Please attribute quotes correctly. I did not (fuck) write that.

And incidentally, in Oregon, DHS/cops can and do remove children from homes for nothing more than a small spot of black mold in one room. A friend of ours quit working for DHS because she could no longer morally stand a lot of the removals/family breakups she had to participate in.

[mdmf007]

Sorry CO, It was supposed to fucking say Oregon red

[SED]

Gotta hand it to you, MDMF007, you did your homework. That counts for a lot more than a poorly worded cheap shot.

So as a former loser-bagger, does your informed opinion cause you to suspect that Johnny Law went online here to gather such evidence before showing up at CO and OR's house?

And just so it's clear to everyone, I never, ever, not even one time took drugs. Nope, No sir. Not me. Honest.

[The CO]

I know lots of people, Cops, Firefighters, Politicians that use and are productive happy people.

To me, that seems to indicate the hypocrisy of our fucked up criminal justice system... Politicians can pass anti-drug laws for the cops to enforce, while using those same drugs? Which is worse, the meth addicted cop or the stoner he is arresting? We drug test athletes & office workers, but not firefighters & cops charged with protecting people?

[SED]

Teachers don't get drug tested either. Of course course, they'd have to fire half of them if they did. Maybe the same is true for cops and firefighters.

[BAS]

FUCK! I was two minutes late to work today and it got reported to my supervisor's supervisor before it was reported to my supervisor (who was inclined to overlook a couple of minutes)!

I've struggled with keeping track of time since grade school, and have managed to keep my record pretty good for a few months, and it has only been the last month or so I have been having trouble with being a 1 to five minutes late again, and even then I have managed to be on time at least four out of five days. And then no more than three minutes late.

I have problems with chronic, low level depression and waking up tired most of the time (probably sleep apnea), but my new doctor doesn't want to put his signature on anything stating that I have troubles like that. (Hell, he is even reluctant to look into setting up a sleep study! If I don't get a better opinion of him from my next appointment, I might have to find out how to switch doctors. Of course, he was practically the only one available at the clinic. )

I don't want to lose this job! FUCK!


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