Open question for the Admins and Moderators of the ePlaya...

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:51 am

Wouldn't you think that, slapping you in the face by posting their porn and spam and virus-links not only all over the board, but to these moderator pages, it would get someone's attention? We're freaking INNUNDATED here...

I mean, seriously... this is pretty damn sad that it's gotten this far...

Why can't something be done here other than ignore the problem, or shove it off on one or 2 people? Really?? The org RUNS off it's volunteer army... there's a lot of people willing to volunteer to help fix this mess... so why the hesitancy do act?

bb

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:47 am

I made some suggestions before that would stop up to 95 percent of this crap. The mods for php I recommended were not viable for some reason or another.

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:57 am

Clearly the ePlaya is no longer important to the ORG, or this would have been dealt with long ago.

Post by **mdmf007** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:34 am

dont know if my previous suggestion is possible but wouldnt having a volunteer read your first one or two eplaya messages and "approved" before they are posted be appropriate?

Have no clue how to write that code, so it justs an idea
later all

Post by **AntiM** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:11 pm

Once summer hits, it is impractical I think.

MikeVDS · Post by **MikeVDS** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:15 pm

How many new posters would you get on peak days?

Post by **AntiM** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:27 pm

Dozens some days, but the problem is they're spread out, and no one is going to sit here online waiting for those new posts. And the posters would then get impatient and there's a whole new can of worms.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:48 pm

Did I miss some porn?

Post by **AntiM** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:52 pm

Some? no my gentle friend, you missed a veritable plethora of porn, a mountain, a landslide, a big honkin' steaming pile o' porn.

pinemom · Post by **pinemom** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:23 am

Ive noticed they hit between 2am and 5am...heheee yes I have hot flashes that wake my ass up! seems most this week ie...the spammers not my hot flashes!!!!!!!

Post by **mdmf007** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:26 am

Anti M - dont you already go through and dump this crap all the time? Someones taking it down. I figured putting all of the crap in one spot to approve the first time to see if a poster is legit or not would be applicable.

I wanst talking about every post - just brand new posters for the first one or two posts.

later all

Post by **AntiM** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:29 pm

Deleting spam is one thing, but being the front door babysitter is an entirely different animal. No thank you, I'd quit first.

Dork · Post by **Dork** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:46 pm

Yeah, having moderated messages would be a pain. The only reason a lot of people set up accounts here is so they can post a question or reply to a topic they care about. Adding a delay would hinder this and cause other issues.

If I had access to the systems (I'd love to volunteer, but all attempts to do so have been ignored and I've given up) I would do the following:
Add the ability for mods to block IP addresses
Put a limit on the number of posts per day for new users
Look at the server logs to figure out how they're getting in - if it appears to be an automated attack, put a barrier in, like one of those gifs with the word in it.
Promote a few more mods.
Time permitting, add some sort of flagging system to alert mods or possibly even delete messages with enough flags.

spectabillis · Post by **spectabillis** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:25 pm

Dork wrote:If I had access to the systems (I'd love to volunteer, but all attempts to do so have been ignored and I've given up)

things have changed slightly, contact cameragrl and tell me the response.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:15 pm

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:23 pm

Dork wrote:put a barrier in, like one of those gifs with the word in it.

that mod would stop the automated scripts which are where 90+ percent of the spam is coming from. than a-m would have more time to play. the mod for phpbbs is already on the website.. nobody seems to want it installed here.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:28 pm

Toolmaker wrote:
Dork wrote:put a barrier in, like one of those gifs with the word in it.
that mod would stop the automated scripts which are where 90+ percent of the spam is coming from. than a-m would have more time to play. the mod for phpbbs is already on the website.. nobody seems to want it installed here.

Nothing new!

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:58 am

pinemom wrote:Ive noticed they hit between 2am and 5am...heheee yes I have hot flashes that wake my ass up! seems most this week ie...the spammers not my hot flashes!!!!!!!

I know - I sit here and watch this shit unfold, and am disgusted. Like Dork I volunteered to help out and no one seemed interested. Hell - I'm even a registered volunteer in a slot that requires both a loyalty oath and (theoretically anyway) a security clearance, and have been for, what, this will be the 3rd year now? Hello!! (bang bang bang) Anyone home? You got people willing to help here.

I did some phpBB research, and it really *is* a simple patch to stop 95+% of this shit, if you have access to the board's back end. Plus, somoeone on while the azzoles are polluting this board could shut these fuckbats down, and no one can google "phpBB spam prevention" that has the authority to do so. But, Jeez, if *I* can figure this out, why can't those in charge of this mess.

We're innundated. This board is so bad (yesterday was the start, and judging by what I've seen already today will be worse) that if it were my call I'd drop it, put in the patches, cull all the "0 post" members here over a week and the fucktards (the numbers group) and start over.

But then again - I sure wouldn't be using open source code for this board, either - there are boards out there that don't have these bot and azzole problems. This is a case of Penny wise and Pound foolish, IMO.

Will be on and off tonight. I bet we break 2-300 jamposts by sunrise. At least. We'll see... but I doubt I'm wrong.

Disgruntled and sad about this disaster...
bb

Ron · Post by **Ron** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:13 am

Bay Bridge Sue wrote:...interested. Hell - I'm even a registered volunteer in a slot that requires both a loyalty oath and......

A loyalty oath? Are you serious? To what/who? I'm dying of curiosity here, are you wiling to give more information? What volunteer position requires a loyalty oath, who administers it?

Ron, who's been amazed at the lack of a barrier to autospammers around here for years....

Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:27 am

Oath? To the Hat, of course.

Curiously, they're not all auto-spammers as seen in "Alfred's" reply to Robotland:
http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 680#293680

Post by **AntiM** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:38 am

Which of course I deleted. When his IP gets banned we'd have another odd truncated thread.

Archantael · Post by **Archantael** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:59 am

Last I remember reading Spanky handled ALL of the technical aspects of the board. Is he still involved with the ORG or working at BMHQ anymore?

Post by **AntiM** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:27 am

Spanky has moved on recently, things are in transition as far as I know. Yes, there's a replacement, but I don't have a lot of info to share.

spectabillis · Post by **spectabillis** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:29 am

here's an update...

no, spanky is no longer involved with the org. his replacement is still comming up to speed and since the role is comprehensive of handling the technical things with the org, this board is obviously not going to be her top priority. dork has volunteered and has some basic skills and understanding to help with things, but equally important, he's got no community baggage. unfortunately things are that usual slow and gapped progress in getting him on board, but i am hopeful, it looks promising!

everyone, give dork some lovin!

now even though i am transitioning from being an active moderator this is one of the things i would like to help in seeing happen. for additional moderators we have someone who volunteered that i need to follow up with, and someone else who i approached. everyone in the previous list either backed out, are no longer active, or are nuts to think they could ever be considered.

Archantael · Post by **Archantael** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:48 am

It's nuts to turn down offers of assistance from anyone in the community who cares enough to volunteer or "gift" their services, and such attitudes by people of "authority" make a mockery of the 10 principles. I would like to see such an attitude explained against the principles of radical inclusion, communal effort, and in this case gifting. I'm not intending to stir up a stink here, I simply want to see the mindset changed and if that means using the 10 principles as a means to do so...so be it. Care to explain yourself SB? And in public...not via PM since your post was public?

spectabillis · Post by **spectabillis** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:55 am

already have explained it, elsewhere. and if you think its a one person decision... nope.

Archantael · Post by **Archantael** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:04 am

spectabillis wrote:already have explained it, elsewhere. and if you think its a one person decision... nope.

And that "team bias" is why you have so few volunteers. In any event good luck!

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:08 pm

spectabillis wrote:... dork has volunteered and has some basic skills and understanding to help with things, but equally important, he's got no community baggage...

I have baggage?? Didn't know that! What color? Samsonite? Armenian Tourister? >giggles<

Seriously, tho, it sounds (by the lack of "sure you can help, here's what you can do") like I really might, and if I do, I'd like to know what it is.

bb

(PS - To answer the above question, the position I volunteer for requires such an agreement, as do most other jobs in my field. No biggie - you should see some of the ones I have to sign for the Gov't!

bb)

Dork · Post by **Dork** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:49 pm

Please keep in mind I've been volunteering for various tech duties a few times a year for the last 4 years. I didn't get a response until a few weeks ago. I still am not sure what their evil plans are for me yet.

Some patience is obviously required.

By the lack of community baggage (obviously personal baggage is not counted, or there's no way I'd be considered) I think he means I haven't pissed off enough people yet. Perhaps being a moderator will change that.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:07 pm

sputnik wrote:Clearly the ePlaya is no longer important to the ORG, or this would have been dealt with long ago.

ROTFL!@!!!!!!Seriously, Sput. Can you tell me when eplaya was last important to the ORG? 1842?