No Greywater on Playa?

Talk about your camp or project's LNT plans (and MOOP problems) here. Discuss cleanup tips. Ask questions or share ideas on what works and what doesn't.
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Post by AntiM » Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:28 am

Uh, cooler in my greywater, hmmm, well ... no. We already haul way too much fucking schtuff, a BFR wouldn't be much amiss.

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Greywater treatment

Post by MrGod » Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:09 pm

We have used a sand filter for the last two years to filter dish and cooking water before putting it into our evap pond. The pond stays much cleaner by the end of the week and doesn't end up being a smelly mess.

We use a small trash can with a 1 1/2 inch outlet hole at the bottom and a length of plastic hose that leads into the evap pond. The trash can is set up on a concrete block so it can drain. In the bottom of the can is about three inches of gravel. on top of that is a piece of window screen. Above that is sand. The sand goes up to within about 4 inches from the top of the can. Another section of window screen in a frame sits on top of the can. It catches most of the chunks which we throw into our compost evaporator. It's pretty heavy. It takes two strong people to lift it.

One of the harder things to deal with on the playa is a half-gallon of milk or orange juice gone bad, or left over soup that no one wants. It's too wet to put in the compost dryer unless the quantities are very small. If you put it directly in the evap pond, you end up with a stinky mess. The sand filter handles it just fine.

Make sure you have a lid for the filter can. It can get smelly toward the end of the week. Just leave the lid on when it's not being used. Take it home when you are done and dispose of the contents appropriately.

The trick is to have a sand filter larger enough to handle the camp size. I don't have any formulas for this. The first time we tried it we used a 6 gallon container and it wasn't big enough. I think our filter can last year was 15 gallons and it was fine.

We used an 8-foot x 12 foot evap pond that handled our camp of 27 people plus a few from nearby camps who 'borrowed' our outdoor shower (which sits in the evap pond). We, like the other person who posted, noticed someone who was dumping their greywater into our pond which we stopped right away. Anyway, at the end of the week, it was all evaporated. We rolled up the plastic liner, put it in a trash bag and took it home along with our other trash.

On another, but maybe related topic - We were camped near Esplanade last year and some people who were too lazy to walk to the porta-potties were caught hiding behind our motorhomes to pee on the playa. I don't know what can be done about this other than a fence around the whole camp. It can give a camp a bad name for clean-up if there are dozens of pee-spots all over. We are grateful that no one took a shit.

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Post by Teo del Fuego » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:52 am

Anti-M: Are you using a car battery with your inverter, and if so, can you make it the week without recharging the battery? (Real clueless on these issues...help would be appreciated.)

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Post by AntiM » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:55 am

We use 12 v deep cycle marine batteries. We bring at least two and get by without recharging most years, just depends on who leaves the lights on for how long. We recharge using a briefcase solar panel if needed.

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Post by Teo del Fuego » Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:55 pm

Anti-M,

in the words of Elvis, Thankyuh, Thankyuh ver much

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Post by geekster » Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:21 pm

The solution for grey water is recycling ... grey ice! At half the price of Camp Artica's ice. Come by Camp Antarctica for a sample.
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Post by unjonharley » Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:35 pm

Dose the cooking oils make a slick on your evap. pound.. I would think a oil slick would sheld the water from escaping..

Anyone know if RV tank chemicals would interfere with evaporation from a ponds? I use it to kill any oders from cooking/dish water.

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Post by mdmf007 » Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:57 pm

to get rid of a oil sheen just takes ONE DROP of dishwashing liquid. The sheen will blast to the sides.

For that reason dish soap must be stowed when refueling a tugboat. Can anyone guess why?

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Post by skygod » Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:54 pm

mdmf007 wrote: dish soap must be stowed when refueling a tugboat. Can anyone guess why?
Soap scares the fuel away?
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Post by mdmf007 » Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:48 pm

and makes the USCG real happy. I guess dumping dawn dish soap in a harbor is almost as good as the oil you are dispersing with it!!!!!!!!!!!!

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