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[Apollonaris Zeus]

I hear too that the pontif has the real bones of jesus christ!

If everyone knew that he was just a man and didn't ascent to heaven then that would end the economic revival of the america!

Just go out there and buy some gifts for me!

AIIZ

[joel the ornery]

I like Laura Bush. I like her accent and her pluckey looks. She must be the most patient and forgiving woman in the entire world having had to put up with the most impatient, unforgiving SOB this side of Mars.
Crush on Laura. Would she ever consider going out with an enviro-left-wing-shit-disturber like me? As Donald R. would say, "who knows?"

dude, do you think she gives head?

<joel>

she's from Texas, that's where they invented it.

i guess if you asked a Texan, that is the answer they would give.

dude, i think the jaw locked shut a loooonnnnngggggggg time ago.

[cowboyangel]

Texas, also the state where it ain't a good idea to be condemned to death or to be a mountain climber....

[Apollonaris Zeus]

If saddam or the nazis tried for Crimes Against Humanity after is was enacted in the Treaty of Rome in 1948, then why wasn't the USA placed on Trial for Nuking Japan?








AIIZ

[cowboyangel]

The elusive clapper rail sighted again in front of the proposed monster sports complex
on the north fork of Gallinas Creek in San Rafael, CA 10.55 min.
http://GallinasCreek.org
On Jan.1, 2007 we filmed a pair of feeding clapper rails at the development site.

The more we film this endangered bird in the vicinity of the proposed development, the more the words of San Rafael Community Development Director, Bob Brown, echo in our minds..." a new environmental impact study will not turn up anything new"......tell that to the clapper rails Bob.

more video at http://bpathvideo.blogspot.com
http://GallinasCreek.org

[Apollonaris Zeus]

Nothing to clap about there cowboyA.

after reading your link, it sounds like a lot of corruption. The architech is on the planning board as well? Thats fuck man!

The republicans practically rewrote the wetlands act to promote development. I believe his project falls right into the requirement or he is replacing a wetland somewhere else? This piecemealing of wetlands will cause them to disappear acre by acre. Vernal wetlands are not even included! The california clapper is a protected species- is it not? This two acts should be enough to stop projects like this. Its a beautiful place. I'm hoping the new democratic congress can rewrite wht the repubs have done for the last 6 years.

AIIZ

PS- the reason the US wasn't tried is because we had and have the bomb and Saddam didn't! Too bad the clapper doesn't as well!

[cowboyangel]

I'm no fan of the dems, but let's force them to.....

[DVD Burner]

Posted by and when, when no one believed me:


Don Muerto


His quote: "Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege."



http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... c&start=60





Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 10:50 pm Post subject:

Why do you think it is a big mistake for the PNAC to publish it's beliefs and goals. They are totally up front about what they are about, and none of it illuminates anything that isn't already apparent.

---------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.newamericancentury.org/state ... ciples.htm


For those that don’t like to believe.


LMFAO!


P.S. Just to make it interesting.........




Try the same on me.



I can take it............







If ya find it on eplaya.





LMFAO! X10




P.S.P.S.


And I still love you all.



*Smooch*

[DVD Burner]

Oh......



and there is some other things...........







many dementions.





Oh Yeah!






I say no more.




I b.........me........from now on.............




WOO HOO!

[DVD Burner]

I'M FREE!

[Apollonaris Zeus]

DVD you are dangerous and I’m sure you’re being watched, but that post was a great repost, I can’t wait for the propaganda sound bits that we all heard to terrify America to go into this war when the presidential elections take place in- holi shit- TWO YEARS!

Statement of Principles

June 3, 1997

"American foreign and defense policy is adrift. Conservatives have criticized the incoherent policies of the Clinton Administration. They have also resisted isolationist impulses from within their own ranks. But conservatives have not confidently advanced a strategic vision of America's role in the world. They have not set forth guiding principles for American foreign policy. They have allowed differences over tactics to obscure potential agreement on strategic objectives. And they have not fought for a defense budget that would maintain American security and advance American interests in the new century...."

Blah, Blah, Big Army, Blah, Blah, War is the answer, Blah, Blah, Blah, We can get what we want from force, Blah, Blah, Blah!

Signed by: Such a Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity may not be fashionable today. But it is necessary if the United States is to build on the successes of this past century and to ensure our security and our greatness in the next.

Elliott Abrams Gary Bauer William J. Bennett Jeb Bush

Dick Cheney Eliot A. Cohen Midge Decter Paula Dobriansky Steve Forbes

Aaron Friedberg Francis Fukuyama Frank Gaffney Fred C. Ikle

Donald Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad I. Lewis Libby Norman Podhoretz

Dan Quayle Peter W. Rodman Stephen P. Rosen Henry S. Rowen

Donald Rumsfeld Vin Weber George Weigel Paul Wolfowitz

Iraq and the middle east are america's failure because we have idiots as presidents and Industry making the decisions.

We need to get out of Iraq NOW! More Soldiers will not do a thing for US. We fucked up and let the blood bath take it's course and we must not allow the Republicans place that failure in the Dems Laps by extending the war into the next Dem administration.

Our Army had won the war. They did their part, but its not their responsibility to be a police force. Only the Iraqis can do that if that is what they want to do.

We need to get out Now! And we need Israel to STOP building Settlements in Palestinian Territory and a govenment to stand up to them.

Three cheers for Woman Kind, The first woman speaker of the Representatives!
Now time for a woman's touch as President!

AIIZ

[DVD Burner]

Who has the biggest balls and talks the most sense?



http://uspolitics.tribe.net/thread/16a4 ... bfb21fa20a

[DVD Burner]

I'm sorry about 3playa but.............











well hey!!!!!!








What?

[DVD Burner]

http://uspolitics.tribe.net/thread/9d79 ... 37813c9925

[joel the ornery]

If saddam or the nazis tried for Crimes Against Humanity after is was enacted in the Treaty of Rome in 1948, then why wasn't the USA placed on Trial for Nuking Japan?
AIIZ

um, because we won?

[Archantael]

I'm sorry about 3playa but.............

well hey!!!!!!

What?

Nevermind....most people already know all they need to about the snarkiness of that place.

[Apollonaris Zeus]

I'm sorry about 3playa but.............

well hey!!!!!!

What? :shock:

Nevermind....most people already know all they need to about the snarkiness of that place.

Well what do you expect from a bunch of playans that were bannished from Eplaya.

On another note: Ted Koppel makes a point that I brought up long ago, that this administration and others around it want to go to war with Iran. Bush's speech was saturated with comments and the recent action in Iraq are inciteful provocation to war.

Bush, the christs and the repubs are so slimy they would do this just to pull us and the dems into it.

AIIZ

[Apollonaris Zeus]

If saddam or the nazis tried for Crimes Against Humanity after is was enacted in the Treaty of Rome in 1948, then why wasn't the USA placed on Trial for Nuking Japan?
AIIZ

um, because we won?

So too true!!

Military Expands Intelligence Role in U.S.


James J. Yee, a former Muslim chaplain at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, was suspected in 2003 of aiding terror suspects imprisoned at the facility, but the military’s espionage case against him soon collapsed.

By ERIC LICHTBLAU and MARK MAZZETTI
Published: January 14, 2007
WASHINGTON, Jan. 13 — The Pentagon has been using a little-known power to obtain banking and credit records of hundreds of Americans and others suspected of terrorism or espionage inside the United States, part of an aggressive expansion by the military into domestic intelligence gathering.

Deletions in Army Manual Raise Wiretapping Concerns (January 14, 2007) The C.I.A. has also been issuing what are known as national security letters to gain access to financial records from American companies, though it has done so only rarely, intelligence officials say.

Banks, credit card companies and other financial institutions receiving the letters usually have turned over documents voluntarily, allowing investigators to examine the financial assets and transactions of American military personnel and civilians, officials say.

I heard they have sent them to the Bmorg recently! What is your companie's policy on giving out records without a warrent?

Some national security experts and civil liberties advocates are troubled by the C.I.A. and military taking on domestic intelligence activities, particularly in light of recent disclosures that the Counterintelligence Field Activity office had maintained files on Iraq war protesters in the United States in violation of the military’s own guidelines. Some experts say the Pentagon has adopted an overly expansive view of its domestic role under the guise of “force protection,â€

[DVD Burner]

Well what do you expect from a bunch of playans that were bannished from Eplaya.

They were never bannished.

They left. They thought they were smarter than everyone on eplaya.




They couldn't get their "Clique on"

[Apollonaris Zeus]

Well what do you expect from a bunch of playans that were bannished from Eplaya.

They were never bannished.

They left. They thought they were smarter than everyone on eplaya. :lol:




They couldn't get their "Clique on" :P

Maybe so, but a few of them were actually Banished to the part of the the Black Rock Desert were the dead runaway pets because of careless people that bring their pets to BM. There are a few Eplayan's of past eating the dessicated meat off the bones of dead pets.

Back to Crimes against You-manatee-

HIROSHIMA, Japan (CNN) -- The atomic bombing of Hiroshima -- an act that ushered in the nuclear age but also helped end World War II -- still stokes controversy 60 years on.

At 8:15 a.m. on August 6, 1945, the U.S. B-29 bomber Enola Gay released its payload -- an atomic bomb named "Little Boy" -- over the city of 350,000 people.

Hiroshima, situated 426 miles (686 kilometers) southwest of Tokyo, was charred and leveled beyond recognition.

Some 140,000 people died in the attack. Another 70,000 died when U.S. forces dropped another atomic bomb on Nagasaki, 593 miles (954 kilometers) southwest of Tokyo, three days later.

Hmmm, Saddam was a poser! Only a 140 murdered in one act. Now if he had the bomb he would have be a true contender. I don't think there is any country that has killed so many non-combatants in one act? at least on this planet.

[DVD Burner]

Hey, was Saddam killed before his trial about his killing the Kurds?





Hmmmmmmmm.

[Apollonaris Zeus]

Hey, was Saddam killed before his trial about his killing the Kurds?





Hmmmmmmmm. :?: :idea:

I believe it was meant to be an insult to Sunnis and a warning to Kurds, but to do so on a religious sunni holiday seemed to send a message to all sunnis in every country.

Retaliation and not forgiveness or even sympathy has never been a part of this newly formed government, but judging from the history of this region, I knew that it would happen. Too bad our government couldn't imagine that. OUr government just saw roses and them thanking us for getting rid of an oppressive regime. I wonder if they still blame us for not desposing saddam in the gulf war and saddam reprisals when they rose up against him during the war.

I say sending more troops won't make any changes but only more american lives being wasted. Like water seeking the lowest point, we must let the bloodbaths take place without us. there isn't anything we can do about a civil war.

AIIZ

[mdmf007]

If saddam or the nazis tried for Crimes Against Humanity after is was enacted in the Treaty of Rome in 1948, then why wasn't the USA placed on Trial for Nuking Japan?
AIIZ

um, because we won?

History is written by the Victorious. Had we lost, Truman would have been a son of a bitch.

The United States has done some pretty shitty things; Dresden, Slavery, nuking Japan twice, turning a blind eye on places like Darfur, Bosnia, etc.

So whats my point? Nothing I guess, other than the squeaky wheel gets the grease, and when your on top you can make the rules.

later all.

[Apollonaris Zeus]

um, because we won?

History is written by the Victorious. Had we lost, Truman would have been a son of a bitch.

The United States has done some pretty shitty things; Dresden, Slavery, nuking Japan twice, turning a blind eye on places like Darfur, Bosnia, etc.

So whats my point? Nothing I guess, other than the squeaky wheel gets the grease, and when your on top you can make the rules.

later all.

Sure short term history is written by the winner and we won, but history is always being re-written and it always has an element of physics, that all things must reach an equalibrium like water seeking the lowest point. History changes with time as public opinion changes. G. Ford didn't heal a nation as much as he swept the dirt under the rug. Slavery existed here, but not now.

In time, what stands on the top of the mountain is destined to lie at its bottom. A Wise Person must know when to move out of its way when it comes down. But we can not build mountain. Or keep what is on top forever for eventually the mountain too will come down.

A logger that cuts down a tree too must move out of its path as it falls.

Iraq is that tree. We have cut it down. We must move out of its way. Then when it has fallen and can not fall no more. We can move it out of our way and replant a new tree.

go and meditate on this words and meet me on the playa once again.

AIIZ

[DVD Burner]

Rice Leaked Defense Information to pro-Israel Lobbyist?

http://www.atsnn.com/article/204793

April, 22 @ 17:57 GMT
loam
A federal judge agreed to issue subpoenas for Rice and three other government officials in a trial involving two former lobbyists with the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. Both lobbyists are accused of receiving and disclosing national defense information. Lawyers for the lobbyists seek to demonstrate that Rice, and the other three government officials, disclosed the sensitive information to their clients, and therefore authorized the lobbyists involvement in the disclosures.


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original news source:

www.washingtonpost.com
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice leaked national defense information to a pro-Israel lobbyist in the same manner that landed a lower-level Pentagon official a 12-year prison sentence, the lobbyist's lawyer said Friday.

Prosecutors disputed the claim.

The allegations against Rice came as a federal judge granted a defense request to issue subpoenas sought by the defense for Rice and three other government officials in the trial of Steven Rosen and Keith Weissman. The two are former lobbyists with the American Israel Public Affairs Committee who are charged with receiving and disclosing national defense information

[DVD Burner]

Leadership in Conflict With Hezbollah Faulted



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01663.html





By Scott Wilson
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, January 17, 2007; Page A10

JERUSALEM, Jan. 17 -- Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz, head of the Israel Defense Forces, resigned abruptly Tuesday after one of his predecessors presented findings of an internal review that sharply criticized the military's leadership during the war with Hezbollah last summer.

Since the end of the 33-day war, Halutz has come under heavy pressure from senior reserve officers to step down. The war failed to achieve the stated goals of freeing two Israeli soldiers captured by the Lebanese Shiite militia in July and stopping Hezbollah rocket attacks on Israeli cities.



Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz had been pressed to resign since end of war. (Eric Sultan - AP)

But Halutz insisted as recently as two weeks ago that he would remain in his post unless called on to resign by the Winograd Commission, an inquiry panel established by Prime Minister Ehud Olmert to examine the performance of the military and political leadership during the war.

The commission's interim report was due in coming weeks. Olmert, who has also been severely criticized for his management of the war, reportedly expressed regret over Halutz's decision to resign after trying to persuade him to change his mind.

"It is the nature of people not to be overjoyed serving in a system that is not appreciated and not protected by those it represents," Halutz wrote in his letter of resignation, according to a translation published online by the newspaper Haaretz.

"We must promise never to reach a situation in which people of quality would hesitate to tie their fate and future with" the Israel Defense Forces, he wrote. "Neither good education nor a strong economy would help us then, and there is a danger that the threats the state of Israel faces will become more substantial."

Halutz was appointed the first air force officer to lead Israel's military in July 2005 by then-Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

Among his first duties was to oversee the withdrawal of Israeli settlements and military installations from the Gaza Strip, an operation praised for its speed and precision. But it won him few supporters among hawkish lawmakers and reserve officers, some of whom opposed the withdrawal on strategic and ideological grounds.

Sharon's decision to appoint Halutz reflected the shifting priorities within the military from infantry to air power. Most Israelis serve in the military because of mandatory service requirements, making the chief of staff position one of the most highly esteemed and scrutinized in the country.

Born in 1948 in the Israeli town of Hagor to a Jewish family of Iranian descent, Halutz joined the air force in 1966. He flew F-4 Phantoms during the war of attrition in the Sinai between the 1967 and 1973 Arab-Israeli wars and was credited with shooting down three combat aircraft in the 1973 Arab-Israeli conflict, known in Israel as the Yom Kippur War.

The sharp public criticism of his leadership during the most recent Lebanon war, much of it from senior reserve officers, has focused on Halutz's heavy reliance on air power against an entrenched guerrilla force often fighting from residential areas.

Hezbollah fired about 4,000 short- and medium-range rockets into Israel, including more than 100 on the last day of fighting. The Israeli military said 117 soldiers died in combat during the fighting. In addition, 41 Israeli civilians were killed, most of them by rocket fire.

Halutz also came under public pressure when it was revealed that in the first hours of the war he took the time to phone his stockbroker with instructions to sell portions of his portfolio, fearing a decline in value because of the conflict.

Earlier Tuesday, Dan Shomron, a retired lieutenant general who led Israel's military from 1987 to 1991, told the Israeli parliament's defense and foreign affairs committee that the summer war in Lebanon was "run without any goal."

"The prime minister instructed the army to halt the rocket fire on Israel, but the army failed to translate it into a military objective," Shomron told the committee, although he did not call on Halutz to step down.

Halutz is the third general to resign as a result of the war against Hezbollah, whose performance against Israel's modern military has strengthened its position within Lebanon's fractious political system and drawn praise across the Arab world.

Maj. Gen. Udi Adam, head of the Northern Command, resigned in September. Halutz accepted the resignation two months later of Brig. Gen. Gal Hirsch, an esteemed younger officer who led the Galilee Division, the unit responsible for the Israel-Lebanon border. Hirsch called on Halutz to resign at the same time.

In his resignation letter, Halutz expressed "great pride" in his career and said he had "fulfilled my obligations."

Maj. Gen. Moshe Kaplinsky, the deputy chief of staff, will at least temporarily replace Halutz.

[DVD Burner]

Gaza and Lebanon is going great behind this news.




Israel!


What dumb fucks.


America,

what dumb fucks!





Yes there are other places around the world that are/is better.

[DVD Burner]

I'll be there while America, Israel get's the shit bombed outta them.




I'll be far away..........awaaaayyyyyy..........awwwaaaaayyyyyyyyyy........




really dumb shit!

[DVD Burner]

Russia-Iran nuclear deal signed



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4301889.stm



The signing had been delayed several times
Russia and Iran have signed an agreement for Moscow to supply fuel to Iran's new nuclear reactor in Bushehr.
Under the deal Iran has to return spent nuclear fuel rods from the reactor, which was designed and built by Russia.

The clause is a safeguard meant to banish fears that Iran might misuse the rods to build nuclear weapons, a concern of the US, Israel and others.

The agreement sets out a time-frame for delivery of the fuel, but officials said the dates would be kept secret.

The BBC's Frances Harrison in Tehran says the deal is significant because Bushehr will be Iran's first reactor to go on stream - a project that has become an issue of national prestige in the face of intense US opposition.

The signing, which had been expected on Saturday, was apparently delayed over disagreements about when the spent fuel should be returned.

Russia had been insisting that no spent fuel should be diverted for the manufacture of weapons.

Iran has repeatedly said its nuclear programme is solely for the generation of power.

'Strongest indication yet'

But despite Iran's denials, diplomats said investigations showed Tehran had had full possession of enrichment know-how for two decades, after acquiring the information from Pakistani nuclear scientist AQ Khan's black-market network.


Iran says its nuclear activity has solely peaceful motives

The Washington Post on Sunday quoted officials as saying that the programme originated at a secret meeting in Dubai 18 years ago between Iranian officials and Mr Khan's associates.

The officials said Tehran, which was then at war with Iraq, bought centrifuges and an enrichment starter kit but also used the meeting as a guide before purchasing more expensive items elsewhere.

The offer "was the strongest indication to date" that Iran had a nuclear weapons programme, a diplomat was quoted as saying.

'Confidential protocol'

Iran's nuclear energy chief Gholamreza Aghazadeh and his Russian counterpart, Alexander Rumyantsev, agreed the deal.

"We have signed a confidential protocol that sets out the timetable for the delivery of fuel to the nuclear power plant at Bushehr," Mr Rumyantsev said, quoted by Russian news agency Itar-Tass.

Russia has rejected US pressure to cut nuclear co-operation with Iran.

Washington is also concerned that the nuclear project could allow for the covert transfer of weapons technology to Iran.

At a meeting between Russian President Vladimir Putin and US President George W Bush in Slovakia on Thursday, both sides agreed Iran should not be allowed to develop nuclear weapons.

The signing of the nuclear fuel deal has been delayed several times, apparently over technical and financial issues.

Our correspondent says Iran is currently in negotiations over its nuclear programme with Europe, and one of the incentives on the table is an offer of a nuclear reactor from the West.

If Iran is already receiving nuclear fuel and technology from Russia, she says, it is in a stronger negotiating position.

[DVD Burner]

i love Joel.


Joel said what?

Joel started this thread.

Then...........nevermind...............

Some c-2 or c-4 level of control or/of Iraqie security?


A year ago this month.




What was it?



Joel, what was it?





I know the Voting with the purple finger thing was don in Iraq, and somethin was to be done after......................






i just cant remember.



You think you can remind me?



help me some one.

I dont ask here too often.


Can I get some help here?