Free real Burningman TATTOOs....

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Free real Burningman TATTOOs....

Post by Alchemy » Thu Nov 13, 2003 12:30 am

Bring me your ticket from any year and I will tattoo the man on you for free.! e-mail me subject: Man Tattoo @ [email protected]

Real,sterile,talented,and cool.
trained under erno for 5 years.
New machine. Alchemy

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Re: Free real Burningman TATTOOs....

Post by Bob » Thu Nov 13, 2003 10:19 am

Alchemy wrote:Bring me your ticket from any year and I will tattoo the man on you for free.!
Who is this man of which you speak?

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Post by Ivy » Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:23 pm

Something I like to keep in mind when I get tattoo work: you very often get what you pay for.


No offense intended, more of a general worning for thsoe out there who might not realize.

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Post by Bob » Sun Nov 23, 2003 9:58 am

re: "free" offers for flesh mutilation on the eplaya

Shouldn't Larry get a cut?

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Ive never paid for mine...

Post by Alchemy » Sun Nov 23, 2003 11:13 pm

Erno did mine for free but of course I paid for drinks and um other stuff..its what friends do.... 8)
Im about the gifting...it would make me happy to do this thats what Id get out of it,but I can see what you mean,sometimes you get screwwed going for the freebie...quality .....safety......taking shit from people. :shock: :x

Im not a bigtime tatoo artist,I could of been but back 15 years ago when I was hoping to break in to it,before the tattoo revolution and I was hanging out at Lyle Tuttles and doing the scene in the 80s a girl had to blow the shops owner or the guy they learned it from where as the guys did not(?) Ummmm I like tradition and all but it kinda clashed with my scence of fairness..so out the door I went. :x :D

Im a published illustration artist,and I mean well.Tattooing is alot like tracing and coloring books.I know how to make it sterile and such..people make such a big deal out of it. Its a beautiful art form but at its base its all copy and color. :D

Ill even do it without the blindfold or the 3 martini lunch!
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Post by Ivy » Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:28 am

Tattooing is alot like tracing and coloring books.I know how to make it sterile and such..people make such a big deal out of it. Its a beautiful art form but at its base its all copy and color.

Ill even do it without the blindfold or the 3 martini lunch!
Yeah, this makes me a lot more confident in your work.

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what a releif!

Post by Alchemy » Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:41 am

Ooooooooooo man was I worried.I dont know HOW Id function if not for your rating..

Thanks for your kindness and warm fuzzy thoughts,Im so touched by them that Im gonna tattoo some ivy on my buttcrack in rememberence of your 2 cents so when I take a crap it will be just like you talking to me.

the only thing I like better than your confidence in my work is my foot up your ass.

Im alllllllll about gifting. :D

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oh yeah and..

Post by Alchemy » Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:45 am

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No offense intended, more of a general worning for thsoe out there who might not realize.


ummmm yeah....what she said,sure.

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Post by Bob » Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:48 am

Somebody remind me to add "trolling for newbies" to the eplaya FAQ.

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Post by Ivy » Mon Nov 24, 2003 8:25 am

Hey, Bob,

Don't forget to add "trolling for newbies" to the FAQ.

hey, I got nothing against gifting free Burning man tattoos.

I do have something againt someone saying they're nothing mroe than tracing and coloring between the lines. I'd like to think as a so-called "tattoo artist," you'd agree that tattoos are art and slightly mroe than coloring books. All the tattoo artist I've known and worked with would never refer to their work as such.

I never accused you of not doing a quality job. But someone who so flippantly refers to safety and sterilization would make me a little wary. I mean, you can get hepatitis from green onions nowadays, so I might be a little careful flinging jokes about clean tattoo needles or giving tattoos while drunk.

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ok...

Post by Alchemy » Mon Nov 24, 2003 8:57 am

Oh I hear you,and I promice not to use any nasty ol onions to tattoo . Besides that you can get nasty breath from tattooing in onion.

Look all I was saying is that its not like oil painting or free hand,its tracing an image onto paper and ditto sheets,transfering on your skin and then tracing around that,then you color it in. GET REAL.
Unless you have parkinsons disease or a seizure its kinda hard not to do it right if you have GREAT tools and supplies. I hear Erno makes THE BEST machines ever.And since hes my buddie you can guess what I think of my machine. HmmmmPH!

Now that I got that off my chest ,Im off to tattoo some Ivy and a Troll on me lil ol butt hole...where"s that yoga mat and shaving mirror?

Ggggggggggeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!! :D

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Re: ok...

Post by drowned_saved » Mon Nov 24, 2003 9:16 am

Alchemy wrote:Look all I was saying is that its not like oil painting or free hand,its tracing an image onto paper and ditto sheets,transfering on your skin and then tracing around that,then you color it in. GET REAL.
of course, there are people, like Skott Greene and Paul Massaro, who do exclusively freehand work and wouldn' think to lower themselves to the kind of mechanical replication you describe above.

but you knew that already...being an "artist" and all.

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Bzzzzz Bzzzzz ........thats my tattoo machine...

Post by Alchemy » Mon Nov 24, 2003 9:46 am

WOW! Really? well what will they think of next?I hope they arent using onions..or better yet I hope they arent using onion skin....

I was just gonna sturlize them needolz but then I could save some time by lettin my dog ,Ol Onion lickem cleen! Wellll Dawgiez!.Coarse she'd probably get her tongue all tore up on dem edges ifin they werent all old and dull from all the practicin Ive been doin on them thick skin types. You all know any of them types?For them I like to free hand cuz I like to drawr purty pictures on peeepole. Besides that Im not an artist..

IM A MASTER ARTEEEST! so get that part right Senior Smarmypants or Ill tattoo a onion with some ivy comin out the top on YOU! think yer so smart...In fact its so easy to tattoo Ill do it using my ass to hold the machine next ,but my friend,those tattoos Wil Not Be Free!

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Butt seriously..............

Post by Alchemy » Mon Nov 24, 2003 9:55 am

so I might be a little careful flinging jokes about clean tattoo needles or giving tattoos while drunk.

Again I hear ya....

How about on smack? Could you would you on some smack?
Could you would with an ass crack?

NO REALLY!!!
I have tremendous respect for all the tattoo gods,theyre charge and theyre mothers. It is a carreer to take seriously and a shaman like thing. Please excuse my silly ways anyone if you took any of the post seriously excepting my offer of a gift..dont. I can tattoo its only free for people with burner history its not elaborate, just a guy we like to :lol: burn. :lol:

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Post by Kinetic II » Mon Nov 24, 2003 10:02 am

With the attitude I saw on display in this thread, there's no way in hell I'd let you even think of tattooing me.

And Bob, I think we can add your suggestion to that proposed FAQ that's being worked on.

Besides, I don't care if you are the best skin illustrator in America, I find it very irresponsible to be working on anyone who might be drunk, high, or in an altered state of consciousness and you will find those individuals on the playa. And I'm not so sure you would be screening them to know if they are totally "there" or not. I also have issues with cleanliness...granted the playa is a sterile environment, but I don't exactly envision you hauling an autoclave out to the playa to clean your needles. And what about aftercare or if I had an allergic reaction to the ink...if I had questions how would one get ahold of you...I could go on and on, but imho this ranks as one of the stupidest things I have ever heard of. On playa or off.

For what it's worth, I do have some work of my own, my family is heavily into them, and our artist of choice just helped the Missouri Legislature last year write up reforms for cleanliness and licensing issues. I know a few things about the subject having worked with him for years now. And from what I'm reading...I see this as flat out wrong. And the attitude makes my negativity pale in comparison.

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OKAY!!

Post by Alchemy » Mon Nov 24, 2003 10:14 am

Bob,

That person is correct any one who gets loaded and tattoos is not professional and a bad bet.Im soooo sorry.someone ought to slap the troll right off my ass on that one.

I certainly hope that the persons reading the afore mentioned blurb written by me and my dawg dont offend or frighten anybody.I hope kinetic didnt cramp up teir hand typin or is it labelin ?

Dood, I never said I would tattoo On The Playa.

Besides the clay would dull my neeedolz.

I was talkin about off the Playa,.... um in Nevada

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Post by Kinetic II » Mon Nov 24, 2003 10:24 am

Even off playa, I don't see anything in your posts that inspires me to seek out your services...in fact I see just the opposite. I'm picking up a negative attitude and a lower level of respect for the art than I would like my artist or illustrator to have. Anybody can pick up a gun and tattoo...but there's a lot more to it...and granted all I have to judge you by is this little blurb of text on a screen from 1800 miles away but your not helping your cause with what your writing. I see a lot of hacker talk with the Z's and all. I just don't get a good vibe off you...but as with anything that could change if offered sensible and relatively developed discussions.

And the comments directed toward Ivy were out of line in my opinion and I don't care if you or anyone else likes that or not. That's just the way it is.

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Post by Ivy » Mon Nov 24, 2003 10:30 am

My first tattoo was done 85% freehand. I'd venture to say that I've seen one otehr tattoo in my time that is better than mine. That is totally my opinion, but it's still pretty damn good.

I don't think you are an artist. You are more likely a tattoo craftsman--someone who does good quality work and with precision and creates things, but follows the directions meticulously to produce a product exactly like the customer wants. It's not a bad thing; hell, it's what i do for a living, too. But it ain't art.

(Oh yeah, and the more defensive you get and the more you act like an ass, the less likely people are to take you up on your offer. I pretty much figured you were joking about the drinking and the safety--tattoo artists do it all the time in real life. But they have somethin you don't--facial expression and tone of voice, so people know they're kidding. That's not working for ya here. Something to consider. Not that you even read or consider anything I've been saying.)

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FAQ...

Post by DangerMouse » Mon Nov 24, 2003 11:11 am

So this, how do you say, Ef Ay Cue, will contain the following?

Proper Needle sterilization techniques.

Proper green onion handling proceedures.

How to word a post in such a way to make sure that no sane, or some facsimilie of, person/mutant would desire to make use of your services.

And

Bob's guide to trolling without a motor, part I.

Where can I get an advance copy?

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Post by DE FACTO » Mon Nov 24, 2003 12:01 pm

Geeeezzzzuuss. I cant belive it went from a nice gesture to this.

Ok. Tats may be a serious thing but could'nt you just find out how the work was being done?

IMHO all was done in tounge and cheeky. All of you guys were a fun read though. hope you all get it worked out.

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Post by TawnyGnosis » Mon Nov 24, 2003 9:41 pm

Jeez, I wasn't even going to jump on this troll but her/his posting style is really fucking annoying. These posts sound like they are written by a high thirteen year old, and tattoos are NOT just tracing and color. It's an art skill, I designed both of mine with a little help from talented body artists and would never get a "freebie" one from this troll.

Walking into a tattoo parlor and pointing to a design on the wall is pretty much the most lame thing I could ever think of.
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Post by Badger » Mon Nov 24, 2003 10:25 pm

Old and established does NOT equate to artistic and talented.

Lyle Tuttle is perhaps the epitome in so far as such sagely advice goes.

I know of no tat artist that would ever consider getting a skin job from him. Too formulaic, and technically a neanderthal as far as the art goes. He's good if cartoons and coloring books (dare I mention paint-by-numbers) are concerned. For some that's good enough - if you're looking for novelty after a few fifteen drinks in North Beach and are heading back to Wisconsin in a few days - or fresh off the ship from your tour in Iraq. But art? I don't think so darlin. Asking for a skin piece and expecting great art would be like It'd asking Wilbur Wright to take you for a spin in a F-16. Having said all that I know that damn near everyone of those tattooists would buy the man a round of drinks.
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Post by Bob » Mon Nov 24, 2003 11:28 pm

Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.
Lev.19:28

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Post by TawnyGnosis » Tue Nov 25, 2003 1:34 pm

oops. too late..
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Post by Kinetic II » Tue Nov 25, 2003 2:44 pm

Don't tell me that Bob is a Christ-O-Holic?

I'll spare the thread my full rant on the bible and the many fucked translations of it.

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Post by Angry Butterfly » Tue Nov 25, 2003 3:14 pm

I would want to see your work, and If I liked it I would get one.
I took the road less traveled, and now I would like to go back and find the paved one.

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Post by III » Tue Nov 25, 2003 3:21 pm

>Don't tell me that Bob is a Christ-O-Holic?

i think you're reading between the wrong lines.

btw, some of my best friends (and some of the more interesting burners i know) are christian, including a couple of ministers. perhaps you could find a more targeted or less offensive term to describe what you mean?
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Post by DE FACTO » Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:11 pm

Angry Butterfly wrote:I would want to see your work, and If I liked it I would get one.
The most positive and most intelligent way of proposing
I've seen on this thread yet.

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Post by nipples » Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:40 pm

i got my first* & only** two weeks ago.
have touch-ups tommorrrow.

i had clearance, clarance.
everytime a bell rings, an angel*** gets
DRILLED ON THE BUTT.

*two wings from shoulder to mid-butt

**i have never wanted one before, will not likely again

***i am not an angel (though eternity includes this moment, & i am hopeful). hence the tats. my brother Paul told me not to, that God might say, "Hey, you like those wings? Fine, keep them." and all the other angels get to fly while my wings are just printed on. HA ha! I thought that was pretty clever of Paul, though i know them not to be self assigned attributes, but rather a goal. Paul was going to have a three-masted schooner tatted across his chest five years ago while we were on a drunken binge in Austin, Texas during South By South West (SXSW) music festival. I talked him out of it & he remembers it now as a three-turreted battleship (which he thinks is much better.. more phallic.. or is it phallii?) my gf at the time called him the next week & asked him if he thought he was ever going to get laid again? Paul still wants it though (to get laid!.. er, no, to get the tat!).. you can tell, and here i had dissuaded him of that dream. sigh. what an ass i was!

bzzzzz! drill! ink ink, silent ouch! bzzzz... refill break..
ahhhhhhh! bzzzz silent ouch! there, i feel better about myself, now!

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Post by nipples » Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:42 pm

oh, & what Ivy said.. esp. to look at the artists work..except i'd have to add to each their own? i used to "worry" about it being a recent fad what with all the barbed wire/lack of originality going on, but that was from the perspective of someone whom had never thought anything would last in my head as long as on my body... i could never think of anything i liked THAT much to wear it forever. corporeal versus ethereal now is in reverse, & just maybe the barbed wire on someone elses arm reminds them of something more than what i thought it did to them.

three weeks ago i'd asked Lisa, the same gf to draw them out for me. she re-surfaced after recently re-splitting from her husband (mr-coffee single serve thirteen shots to my chest, kick it out. ) and as she is an artist and possibly the last woman I'll love so deeply, it seemed right. but she balked and said "What?! Am I suppossed to think Big-Bird is between my legs?!!!".

sigh.


so instead I asked my eldest daughter, & she gifted me with the perfect pair of wings... knowing as she does my style plus she is just going off to an art school. might help to know that her old man thinks she is just swell. first draft she nailed it. in front of my eyes, at the dinner table. my other two kids said "sounds good, dad".

on the drawing she wrote "Let go of the things that do not give you inspiration... or wings".
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