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Post by Angry Butterfly » Sat Nov 15, 2003 11:50 am

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While I looked at it, it opened its mouth widely, and I swear it did it in slow motion. It looked like it was trying to scream or cry or something.

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Bunnies actually do cry when they are in pain, it is a really awful sound. I feel bad for you too, I found these baby mice with a dead mother, and I tried to keep them but my husband found out and flushed them down the toilet. i know it was the right thing to do, but I still cried.
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Post by quiet girl » Sun Nov 16, 2003 3:59 pm

On animal death/pain etc...

"It" is used in lieu of knowing the sex of the bird in need!

I used to work in the Bolinas Hardware Store in Bolinas, CA a few years ago.

I was outside sweeping the back porch leading to the lumber yard one cloudy summer afternoon when THUD! a sparrow hit the second story window and fell to the ground.

When I picked the sparrow up, its head lolled back and forth as though its neck was broken. At first I thought the little bird was dead, but I saw that it was still breathing and flapping its wings a little bit.

I wenth through the usual motions that people do in this situation: mercy strangling? Call the wildlife rehab center 20 miles away? What to do? Not ready to kill a living creature right away, I went into the store and told the owner, who gave me a small box to put the bird into.

I called a Marin County wildlife rehabilitation place and they told me to keep an eye on the animal, but if it were severely injured, there was nothing they could do.

About ten minutes later, I went to check on the bird, expecting to find a cold corpse. To my surprise, however, it was sitting in the box, awake, eyes blinking and neck now functional!

I picked the bird up out of the box and it sat in my hands without moving much. I put it on the counter and it flapped its wings a bit, but seemed pretty ungainly.

I put the sparrow back in the box and got back to work. A few minutes later, I heard a flapping noise and there was the sparrow, sitting on the edge of the box.

I scooped it up in my hands and went outside. The bird made a squawk and tried to stretch its wings. I opened my hands, and the critter jumped onto the edge of my index finger and then, with one good push, flew off into the trees.

I've got a few stories like this, and it seems that whenever confronted with a homeless, sick or dying animal, my first instinct was to treat the injury, find the animal a home or someone who specializes in caring for injured, homeless or sick animals.

I understand the concept of assisted suicide and things like that, but I confess to not entirely understanding the drive to end life on the basis of "mercy," especially when dealing with a creature that cannot speak for itself.

Does it have something to do with not wanting to see an animal or person suffer? Is it a way of not going through the pain of watching someone/thing suffer? I've been trying to figure this out for a long time.

I guess sometimes you get lucky, other times you let nature take its course, and other times you take matters into your own hands, for better or for worse.

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Post by Patience » Mon Nov 17, 2003 8:55 am

For me, it had nothing to do with my capacity to watch something suffer. It boiled down to the golden rule. Do unto others, etc. And if I had a hole that size in my neck and I was bleeding to death I'd want it to end quickly rather than being left there to bleed to death.

Your story is great, though. I wish mine had a happy ending, but there was no way that bunny was just going to shake it off.
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jealousy?

Post by Angry Butterfly » Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:54 pm

If I confess this, will I feel better?
I have a crush on a friend, I think, it is a kind of lukewarm crush kind of thing. I am happily married, and so is he, but he has an open marriage. Now a crush alone doesn't hurt anybody so I don't feel bad about that. He is a total open book and has made it pretty clear that he is interested in me, but I am cool with that because he is the sort of person who has a pretty healthy respect for boundaries, so I don't feel bad about that either. Here is the weird part:
Last night I was in SF for the first meeting of the planning committee of a conference that I worked on last year ( this is how I met my afforementioned "friend") And part of the reason I was looking forward to going to the meeting was to see him, but I mean that was about 10% of it. It was also so I could see a bunch of other people that I totaly love and get to work on this big thing I found really rewarding. I had a bunch of errands to run and had a little time to kill so I thought I would give him a call if I had time, he invited me over for dinner when I called, but I ended up declining because I hadn't totaly finished my errands, and didn't want them to hold dinner for my sake. I ended up not getting together with him because I got distracted by the wonder that is the Mission. So I go to the meeting and he isn't there and I mentioned I had just spoke to him and thought he was comming, when one of the other girls said " he's not comming because he has a DATE!" and at that moment, I felt jealous. I mean WTF? Where did that come from? I was even invited! I did'nt even feel jealous when some bar chick grabbed my own husband! ( I felt kind of turned on when he told me about it actually, he wanted me to beat her up, and I thought that was funny) Ok, so my confession is that I had a totaly weird irrational feeling, and it really bothered me, about someone who I have a pretty minor crush on, that I have no intention of acting on anyway. ( I stopped being attracted to the guy when he shaved his head, that is a pretty minor crush)
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Re: jealousy?

Post by BlueBirdPoof » Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:01 pm

Angry Butterfly wrote: I had a totaly weird irrational feeling, and it really bothered me.
Um Welcome to the human race?

Actually, it sounds very normal. My take. You have a "known" quality relationship with your husband. It's of some years standing and you know how far you can trust him with bar girls and if something is an actuall threat. Besides, it's always nice to have confirmation that you're with a "stud."
You're in a courtship type phase with your new friend. And if I were in your shoes, I'd wonder if he would have asked me on the date if I had had the time. You think you missed out on something, ergo jelousy.

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Post by Angry Butterfly » Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:53 pm

Eureka!
that is a good take on it. It wasn't really that i was bothered by having an irrational feeling, it bothered me more that I was bothered by it at all, if that makes any sence, and that I couldnt figure out where it came from. But you are right, since it was a *DATE* ( a big enough date that he was telling his friends about, no less ) That I had been invited along on, and I just passed it up *NOT* realizing I was missing "something" ( although I could totaly tell from his tone of voice I was wanted, I passed it up because I was really into my "mission" ) I was kind of thinking, man, if it was cool enough for him to miss this thing that I have been looking forward to for weeks, mabe I should have checked it out... Funny thing being I was way more into seeing my friends and getting started on next year's conference, seeing B. was kind of an optional side trip. AND i was really bugged I didnt get to see him! Of course there is this whole jealously thing I have for the particular girl who said "he has a DATE!" she is like this classicly trained dancer and I turn green with envy at the way she moves... I just want to be able to move like that in the worst way! one of my friends has a HUGE crush on her and upon comparing notes his Crush and my Envy are pretty much the same thing with different hormonal twists! LOL! It's a good thing I AM happily married, or I probably wouldn't like her at all, the way all my guy friends drool over her, and she is so cool that I'm glad she's not competition, because I do like her, but she is way too sexy for her own good.
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Post by Angry Butterfly » Tue Nov 18, 2003 10:07 pm

I have another confession! I want an open marriage too! I think if My husband can spend 3 nights a week with his band I should at least be allowed to date on at least one of those nights.
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Post by Don Muerto » Tue Nov 18, 2003 10:34 pm

From your story, I got a totally different read on the situation. I think the DATE was YOU.

There is no way in hell you invite another woman along on a date. I think the 'date' was just a cover for him to not be at the meeting and therefore available to have dinner with you. YMMV
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Post by Angry Butterfly » Tue Nov 18, 2003 11:24 pm

heh heh, you dont know the guy... but you may be right. However, I did say " lets get together then go to the meeting" and when I realized I wasn't going to make it I said "See you at the meeting" but it's a posssibility, I suppose
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hey

Post by dj big E » Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:44 am

If you get approval for the open marriage thing i still need a date for the meet and greet! lmao be aware thoe i am easily sidetracked and may not get to the meet and greet until 10 pm like this year lmao. By the way srl is coming to vegas in feb so if you guys end up with anymore dead animals i am sure we could put them to use in the show!!!!!!!!!! Dj big"E" laugh don't cry mother fucker

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Re: hey

Post by DE FACTO » Tue Nov 25, 2003 11:54 am

dj big E wrote:If you get approval for the open marriage thing i still need a date for the meet and greet! lmao be aware thoe i am easily sidetracked and may not get to the meet and greet until 10 pm like this year lmao. By the way srl is coming to vegas in feb so if you guys end up with anymore dead animals i am sure we could put them to use in the show!!!!!!!!!! Dj big"E" laugh don't cry mother fucker
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Post by DangerMouse » Tue Nov 25, 2003 1:10 pm

I confess to having never been to burning man. It's sad, I know. I'm actively working rectify this one wrong.

I confess to having alternating feelings of excitement and abject fear about going to burning man.

I confess to feeling like ripping a man's still beating heart of out his chest with a pooper scooper and holding it up before his eyes for him to see before he died last week after he accused me of having made a pass at his wife 3 years ago and calling me a lecherous bastard.

I confess that my only reaction was to cop-out and to be the usual passive wuss that I always am.

I confess that I actually like the movie version of the Pirates of Penzance.

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Post by Badger » Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:12 pm

I confess that I actually like the movie version of the Pirates of Penzance.
You sick bastard.

Some confessions are best left between you and the creator.
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Post by DangerMouse » Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:59 pm

Badger wrote:
I confess that I actually like the movie version of the Pirates of Penzance.
You sick bastard.

Some confessions are best left between you and the creator.
Oh gimmie a freaking break. At least I didn't say I liked 'The Pirate Movie!'

Sheesh!

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Post by Badger » Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:47 pm

At least I didn't say I liked 'The Pirate Movie!'
Is'ss true I guess.
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Post by Angry Butterfly » Wed Nov 26, 2003 7:42 pm

mine is worse its the worst thing ive confessed to yet , but I cant keep it on my consience any longer:
I LOVE blink 182
I would rather listen to them than the Clash, Sex Pistols or PIL.
I am deeply ashamed.
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Post by technopatra » Wed Nov 26, 2003 11:49 pm

Don't worry, we still love you, Angry Butterfly. We may not respect you anymore, but hte love is all around.

But seriously, if you like those pop-punk little cuties (I admit they are catchy and hot little twentysomethings to boot), you might like their cultural grandaddies - the Descendents. They were a seminal SoCal punk band. Ot quite as pretty as b182, but their music blows those kids out of the water.

I highly recommend "Silly Girl", and "Clean Sheets" from the live album, "Liveage".[/url]

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Post by Angry Butterfly » Wed Nov 26, 2003 11:54 pm

that's the problem! I already used to listen to the decendants back in the day! Sure the music is "better", I just have no taste! NO TASTE! It's sad really.
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Post by technopatra » Wed Nov 26, 2003 11:59 pm

Angry Butterfly wrote:that's the problem! I already used to listen to the decendants back in the day! Sure the music is "better", I just have no taste! NO TASTE! It's sad really.
Admitting you have a problem is the first step.

Realizing that you just like what you like and fuck anyone's opinion of what's cool or not, even your own is the next.

The next one is to show some pride, woman! I'll march in your virtual parade and admit that anytime I hear Hall & Oates' "She's Gone" I get a little misty. Some things just can't be explained.

Or shouldn't.

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Post by DE FACTO » Thu Nov 27, 2003 12:05 am

Ok I think I feel a little more comfy behind the Hall and Oats.

I confess I am totally into NIN but my all time favorite way back in the day was Barry White.

went to the concert at Madison square garden (felt forum ) when I was 11 or 12 and went into shock when I saw what he looked like.

still bought every album after that.

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Post by Angry Butterfly » Thu Nov 27, 2003 12:11 am

i admit to turning a 12 year old Blink 182 fan on to the Ramones.
And then proceeding to go out and buy "take off your Pants and Jaket" and listening to "Rock Show" on repeat.
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Post by DE FACTO » Thu Nov 27, 2003 12:23 am

Angry Butterfly wrote:i admit to turning a 12 year old Blink 182 fan on to the Ramones.
And then proceeding to go out and buy "take off your Pants and Jaket" and listening to "Rock Show" on repeat.
I confess I saw the Ramones at CBGB's when I was'nt and am still not a fan. But it was free along with Tim buk 3

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Post by Angry Butterfly » Thu Nov 27, 2003 12:30 am

You have finaly done it De facto! Damn you! Now I'm pissed! Or is that Jealousy? Yep, Jealously! LOL!
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Post by DE FACTO » Thu Nov 27, 2003 12:31 am

:lol:

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Post by III » Thu Nov 27, 2003 8:23 am

i lived in the dorms with milo. i admit to only a little bit of celebrity worship.
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Post by NaughtySnowAngel » Thu Nov 27, 2003 11:15 am

I admit that the very first concert I ever attended was The Ramones, and the coolest thing about the concert is that it was a private show for the boarding school I atteneded and the Boys boarding school that it was held at. Afterwards I watched "Rock'nRoll High School" like every day! It was my first introduction to drug use and I was blown away! The things you learn when you are 12!
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My true confession is that I have had wicked thoughts about my friend who has introcduced me to The Burning Man experience....and this is a bad thing as I am happily married and don;t know how I will react on the playa in '04......*sigh*

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Post by Angry Butterfly » Thu Nov 27, 2003 12:05 pm

I confess I thought it would be kind of fun to have the house to myself this week, and then got really lonely last night and woke up lonely this mornig.

I confess that After being married for 3 years I am a little bit of a basket case when my husband is gone.

I wouldnt feel too bad, Snow Angel, in my house we are allowed to look.
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Post by alice » Thu Nov 27, 2003 12:20 pm

i confess that although i hate being stuck in california when my sweetie is so far away, i like being here, too.

i confess to being so depressed that i havn't used the hot tub once - it's just too lonely to do alone.

i confess that i hope to see some e-playans before i return to paradise - the only person from e-playa that i've seen in the whole week i've been here is psychonaut. and i'd never even met him before.

i confess that i smell like butter right now.

i confess to doing all the nitrous last night and forgetting to buy tequilla.

and i confess to liking hall and oates and blink 182.
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Post by DE FACTO » Thu Nov 27, 2003 7:49 pm

I confess I thought this board would have less eplayans on it today.

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Post by Kinetic II » Thu Nov 27, 2003 11:04 pm

I confess to being pissed off at my new laptop, and the neverending WiFi hell it's trying to put me through. I also confess that I take one holiday at a time. They can put up trees and haul out the Christmas lights but to me it's not Christmas time until Thanksgiving is over with. And since it's 1:03 in the morning....NOW IT'S THE CHRISTMAS SEASON!

And as much as I dislike shrub, his trip to Baghdad impressed the hell out of me. I'm glad to see our troops were not forgotten!

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