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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:36 pm

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We have Burning Man Bucks.

One buck gets you one drink.

Works every time.

Its anti inflationary and it mocks the BM no exchange of currency law.

How's that for anarchism?

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PS- Marshall Law? He lives right down the street from me.

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:50 pm

Death by Excited Delirium: Diagnosis or Coverup?
by Laura Sullivan

This is the first of a two-part report. check for next part at this address

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... Id=7608386


All Things Considered, February 26, 2007 ·

You may not have heard of it, but police departments and medical examiners are using a new term to explain why some people suddenly die in police custody. It's a controversial diagnosis called excited delirium. But the question for many civil liberties groups is, does it really exist?

The phenomenon can be witnessed in a grainy video shot in 2003 by a dashboard camera in a Cincinnati police car. In it, a patrol car pulls up quickly to the parking lot of a White Castle in Cincinnati. A 350-pound man is seen stumbling around, yelling.

The man is 41-year-old Nathaniel Jones, a father of two who worked in a group home. He argues with two officers. He seems confused; he can't keep his balance. The officers close in. The officers order Jones to get down but they can't seem to catch him. He throws his body at one of the officers. Out come the nightsticks.

They strike him about 40 times. Jones is on the ground when more officers arrive with nightsticks. Jones calls out for his mother. That's the last thing he says.

Jones stops moving. He dies a few minutes later.

The coroner found that Jones did not die from excessive police force but from a number of causes — such as heart failure, obesity, drug use and asphyxiation. He later told reporters that Jones' death could have been the result of something called excited delirium.

Medical Condition Not Recognized

Deborah Mash, a professor of neurology at the University of Miami, describes the symptoms of the condition:

"Someone who's disproportionately large, extremely agitated, threatening violence, talking incoherently, tearing off clothes, and it takes four or five officers to get the attention of that individual and bring him out of harm's way — that's excited delirium."

Mash says the phenomenon came to light in the 1980s, when cocaine burst onto the scene. Most victims have cocaine or drugs in their systems. Jones had smoked cocaine and PCP. Mash says victims become irrational, their body temperatures rise so fast their organs fail, and then they suddenly die.

"It's definitely real," Mash says. "And while we don't know precisely what causes this, we do know it is the result of a neural chemical imbalance in the brain."

But nearly all reported cases of excited delirium involve people who are fighting with police. And that's extremely problematic, says Eric Balaban of the American Civil Liberties Union.

"I know of no reputable medical organization — certainly not the AMA [American Medical Association] or the APA [American Psychological Association] — that recognizes excited delirium as a medical or mental-health condition," Balaban says.

He's right. Excited delirium is not recognized by professional medical associations, and you won't find it listed in the chief psychiatric reference book.

Balaban charges that police officials are using the diagnosis "as a means of white-washing what may be excessive use of force and inappropriate use of control techniques by officers during an arrest."

The International Association of Chiefs of Police hasn't accepted the diagnosis, either, saying not enough information is known. But every year, excited delirium is showing up on more and more medical examiners' autopsy reports.

An Overdose of Adrenaline?

According to Dr. Vincent Di Maio, "What these people are dying of is an overdose of adrenaline."

Di Maio was until recently the chief medical examiner for Bexar County, Texas. Di Maio says that he saw three to five cases of excited delirium each year, and that there are probably several hundred cases nationwide.

He says the condition typically arises after officers have wrestled down an uncooperative suspect:

"They bind the feet, and every one stands back and they're panting. And then finally someone says, 'He's not breathing.'"

Di Maio says it is often the very act of resisting that sends people prone to excited delirium over the edge. If they were in a field, alone, running around hysterical, Di Maio says they might still have died. But he says fighting makes death all but certain. And because most people are in public places, not in fields, that means they're usually fighting with the police. Di Maio says civil liberties groups then wrongly blame the officers for the death.

"They buy into this mode that if somebody dies, somebody's got to be responsible," DiMaio says. "Of course, it can't be the person high on coke or meth."

But even with an extensive autopsy, there is no definitive way to prove someone died of excited delirium.

"But if you're talking about police abuse — beating him to death, or hog-tying — the answer is yeah, you can tell the difference," Di Maio says.

Either way, it doesn't matter, says Dawn Edwards of the Ella Baker Center, a police watchdog group in Oakland, Calif. If police take a person into custody, Edwards argues, they need to make sure the person stays alive — whatever the condition of the person's brain or body temperature or their agitated state.

"They want the victim to be looked at as the cause of his or her own death," she says. "The bottom line is that these people are dying at the hands of, or in the custody of, police officers."

Diagnosis Based on Behavior Alone

Several medical doctors interviewed by NPR said there is a way to calm someone down who has the symptoms that have come to be known as excited delirium. Doctors at the emergency room at the Vanderbilt University hospital in Nashville, Tenn., have tranquilized three people. Their heart rates and body temperatures were soaring. They woke up fine.

But that was in a hospital, with doctors and intravenous drugs. Police officers are not allowed to administer medicine. They have only their nightsticks, Tasers, pepper spray or their own bodies — which may make the situation worse.

Because excited delirium doesn't show up in an autopsy, it is the subject's behavior that determines the diagnosis. And if there aren't any witnesses, only the police can describe what happened.

Videos of excited delirium incidents are rare. And as officers made clear at the end of the tape of Nathaniel Jones' death, police are not always eager to have the cameras on.

In that video, as an ambulance crew straps Jones to a gurney, the officers standing in front of the patrol car ask whether anyone left their onboard video recording devices on.

"I know it's on. I left it on. I turned the mike off," an officer is heard saying.

The officer swears and rushes to his car. He shuts the video off and the tape goes dead. But even with a video, a medical examiner, a dozen witnesses and an autopsy, exactly how and why Nathaniel Jones died still seems to depend on whom you ask.


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Now the Black Rock Rangers will be using this for an alibi after they beat up all up- you could always see in their eyes, the hate, the pleasure of pounding on some drug out freak that didn't ask to share a hit with them!!!!

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Post by DVD Burner » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:01 am

Apollonaris Zeus wrote:
DVD Burner wrote:New England Town Prints Up Its Own Currency
We have Burning Man Bucks.

One buck gets you one drink.

Works every time.

Its anti inflationary and it mocks the BM no exchange of currency law.

How's that for anarchism?

AIIZ

PS- Marshall Law? He lives right down the street from me.
hey, BM should make that real money.

(I forgot about that.)

what is the deal with BM politics?

What is BM Politics?

Enlighten me please.

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Post by BAS » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:44 pm

What is BM Politics?
No baby wipes in the potties! :P

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Post by DVD Burner » Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:33 pm

:lol:

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:16 pm

Cheney, Haliburton says Dubai to the US and Dicks US with the Bush's admin's no-bid contracts in Iraq.

I say we dick dick before he kicks the bucket!

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Oh my god, az just threaten the vice with his prick!!!!

Call in the SS as in Secret Service.

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:11 pm

General consensus in Iraq:

They want Saddam back.

Life was better then.

It was safe to go out when he was here.


Not my words, but the people of Iraq.

I agree too.

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Post by DVD Burner » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:55 am

American poitics should make every American proud these days.


Dont cha think?

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Post by BAS » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:46 am

Dont cha think?
I try not to-- it gets you in trouble! :wink:

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Post by Cabana Springs » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:48 am

BAS wrote:
Dont cha think?
I try not to-- it gets you in trouble! :wink:

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Why does you not thinking get me in trouble?
Filing taxes is not truely voluntary!

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Post by BAS » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:50 am

Cabana Springs wrote:
BAS wrote:
Dont cha think?
I try not to-- it gets you in trouble! :wink:

B.
Why does you not thinking get me in trouble?

Because I am in charge of your safety! :P


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Post by Cabana Springs » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:53 am

BAS wrote:
Cabana Springs wrote:
BAS wrote: I try not to-- it gets you in trouble! :wink:

B.
Why does you not thinking get me in trouble?

Because I am in charge of your safety! :P


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Post by DVD Burner » Wed Mar 21, 2007 2:33 pm

Ok, Now this has got to get a good laugh. :lol:

got this from Kelly elsewhere's:



From today's Salon.com War room:

"I've been led to believe that there's a good response for it"

Why is the White House insisting that there be no transcripts of any "interviews" members of Congress might have with Karl Rove and Harriet Miers? Maybe it's because of transcripts like this one from today's White House press briefing:

Tony Snow: What we're doing is we're trying to be accommodating to Congress by offering them extraordinary insight into a deliberative process. You also know that everybody who goes there -- the president expects everybody who talks to Congress to tell the truth, and so does the law. And they know that it would be illegal not to tell them the truth. So the question you've got to ask yourself is -- this pressure on transcripts and everything -- is this really something where somebody thinks that there's going to be a fact that they're not going to receive? The answer's no. The question is whether you're trying to create a political spectacle, rather than simply the basis of getting at the truth. This, I think, is an important and crucial distinction, because, again, I'm not sure -- well, I think we can say with confidence that they're going to get every fact they need to find out what's going on.

Reporter: Are you afraid that they'll be able to go through and find inconsistencies in testimony, if there's a transcript?

Snow: No, they'll be able to do it.

Reporter: OK. You keep saying the Justice Department -- their response, in these e-mails, the 3,000 pages, was unprecedented, was very responsive. Why then is there this gap from mid-November to about Dec. 4, right before the actual firings? Why is there a gap in e-mails?

Snow: I don't know. Why don't you ask them?

Reporter: Well, you're the White House. The Justice Department serves under you.

Snow: I know, but I'm not going to be the fact witness on Justice.

Reporter: But you're the one representing that this has been very responsive. Now that there's a gap, you say go to the...

Snow: And I've been led to believe that there's a good response for it, but I'm going to let you ask them because they're going to have the answer.

Reporter: There's one e-mail from November 15 that says -- from Mr. Sampson to Harriet Miers, I believe -- "Who will determine whether this requires the president's attention?"

Snow: Right.

Reporter: And then there's a gap in e-mails. Was there any -- do you think, perhaps, any e-mails about the president in there? And did the president have to sign off on this? Because the question was raised...

Snow: The president has no recollection of this ever being raised with him.

Reporter: Have you read the e-mails or been briefed on them?

Snow: I've been briefed. I have not read all 3,000 pages.

Reporter: How would a transcript make it a political spectacle? And what about a transcript would be not in keeping with amicable and...

Snow: Well, again, I think you've always got a temptation -- somebody, sort of, waving a piece of paper. Let me ask you -- let me reverse the question. Why would not an interview conducive to getting at the facts?

Reporter: Well, because if, then, the facts were then discussed, then it would be one person's word against the other.

Snow: No, I don't think so. I mean, I think, if somebody asks a straight factual question, you're going to have witnesses from both parties and from both chambers, House and Senate. You're going to have Democrats and Republicans, House and Senate. You're going to have people there who are responsive. And you know what? If they don't think they've got it right, they can ask over and over and over, until they get it precisely right. So I don't think that's a real concern.

Reporter: What about a record of these facts?

Snow: Well, again, the facts -- my guess is that there will be -- that people are certainly going to be open to discussing the facts that they hear.

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Post by DVD Burner » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:25 pm

Who's watching the president?
The GOP abandoned White House oversight, and the results were disastrous.



March 21, 2007

Ronald Brownstein:

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/com ... commentary

AT TIMES, President Bush's second term has resembled a laboratory test of what happens to a large institution when all mechanisms of accountability are disabled.

The results have not been pretty.

Hurricane Katrina, the chaotic occupation and reconstruction of Iraq, the breakdown at Walter Reed Army Medical Center, the FBI's abuse of Patriot Act powers, the troubling dismissals of eight U.S. attorneys — everywhere, the administration has been plagued by an epidemic of incompetence.

Bush has stumbled so badly at managing the basic responsibilities of government that even the National Review, the flagship magazine of the conservative movement and hardly a traditional critic of the president, used its latest cover to plaintively ask: "Can't anyone here play this game?"

How did it come to this for an administration that, as the National Review noted, initially portrayed itself as buttoned-down "adults" returning to Washington after President Clinton's baby boom bacchanal?

The answer begins with Bush's management style. He combines a distaste for details with a tendency to prize loyalty over performance.

Shaped by those attitudes, Bush typically worries more about signaling resolve to his critics by denying failures inside his government than demanding excellence by punishing it. That impulse explains how Bush could present a prestigious medal to George J. Tenet — who had resigned months earlier as CIA chief — after his agency's declarations about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction crumbled like sand, and how Donald H. Rumsfeld survived so long as Defense secretary while Iraq disintegrated.

Bush's instincts were dangerously reinforced by the Republican-controlled Congress, which viewed itself less as an independent branch of government than as a junior partner to the White House in the American equivalent of a parliamentary system.

The Republican majority so completely abdicated its responsibilities to conduct oversight on the executive branch that its governing motto might have been "don't ask, don't tell."

Key House and Senate committees sometimes went months without oversight hearings on Iraq. Neither chamber managed more than a glancing review of the increased police powers the administration acquired for the war on terror. Congress barely noted the collapse in care for many veterans at Walter Reed, and it almost completely avoided issues uncomfortable for Bush, such as global warming and declining access to health insurance.

This deference reflected the widespread tendency among congressional Republicans "to think that your political welfare is tied up with the president, and you don't want to make him look bad," as Rep. Thomas M. Davis III (R-Va.), one of the few GOP leaders who maintained some independence from the White House, told The Times.

But the abandonment of oversight had the opposite effect. By refusing to challenge the administration's performance, the Republican majority allowed problems to fester and dysfunction to deepen. One senior House Republican said this week that nothing hurt the GOP more in 2006 than the collapse of its reputation for competent governance.

Many of the decisions now causing Bush grief could have been made only by a politician who did not believe anyone was looking over his shoulder. It's inconceivable that the administration would have been so cavalier about planning the postwar occupation of Iraq — or so dismissive of the Army warnings that it had not deployed enough troops to ensure order — if it knew that Congress would closely examine its plans.

Likewise, it's difficult to imagine that an administration accustomed to serious scrutiny would have dismissed U.S. attorneys involved in sensitive decisions on whether to prosecute political corruption and fraud cases the way Bush's Justice Department did in December.

Depending on how they apply oversight power, the Democratic congressional majority could restore badly needed accountability to the system.

If Democrats focus on settling scores, they will succeed only in igniting partisan firefights. They veered dangerously close to that mistake Friday with the hearing flogging the Valerie Plame case, which the criminal justice system had already adjudicated. But congressional oversight aimed at legitimate targets will serve the country by increasing pressure on the administration to demonstrate results — beginning in Iraq, but also at home. Already, tough congressional questioning is forcing Bush to change the way he operates.

In the four months since Democrats won control, perhaps more administration officials linked to failure or ethical missteps — Rumsfeld, officials directly responsible for Walter Reed, the Army secretary, the Justice Department chief of staff — have resigned under fire than during the six years when the GOP majority averted its eyes. Atty. Gen. Alberto R. Gonzales, even after Bush's vote of confidence Tuesday, may be the next to fall to the new breeze.

Tuesday's stormy news conference suggests that Bush will push back against tough oversight. But his presidency might have turned out a lot better if he hadn't spent his first six years virtually immune from it.

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:31 pm

Since Joel has honored with his return to eplaya, I just want to shove this in his face:

Gonzales Aide to Take Fifth Before Senate Panel
by Nina Totenberg

Morning Edition, March 27, 2007 · A top aide to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales is invoking her Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination and refusing to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee about the firing of eight federal prosecutors.

Monica Goodling, who serves as the Justice Department's liaison to the White House and counselor to the attorney general, notified the committee Monday that she will not be testifying about the scandal.

Justice Department documents show that Goodling helped determine which prosecutors should be fired. The documents also showed that she worked closely with White House political operative Karl Rove to remove the United States attorney in Arkansas so that one of Rove's aides could take the job.

As White House liaison for the Justice Department, she'd be able to tell the Senate Judiciary Committee whether top Justice Department officials knew they were giving false testimony when they said that the White House was minimally involved in the removal of the U.S. attorneys.

Goodling, who is on leave from her position, sent an affidavit to the committee saying that she had "become aware that a senior justice department official had blamed her for his false testimony, in a conversation he had with Sen. Chuck Schumer."

Schumer, a New York Democrat, said Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty told him that Goodling failed to give him pertinent facts as she briefed him before his testimony.

Goodling's lawyer, John Dowd, wrote a letter to the committee that said its hostile and questionable environment would put Goodling in legal jeopardy for "even her most truthful and accurate testimony." And he cited the case of Vice President Dick Cheney's former Chief of Staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby as a case in point. Libby testified before a grand jury instead of taking the fifth, and then found himself convicted of perjury.

The committee, of course, could grant immunity from prosecution to Goodling in order to get her testimony. But she would likely have to offer up some juicy information in return.

Meanwhile, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales defended himself Monday in an NBC interview, asserting that he had not misled Congress or the public when he declared that he had not participated in discussions or seen documents about the firings.

Recently released Justice Department e-mails show that Gonzales attended a one-hour meeting on the topic shortly before the dismissals were implemented.

"I was not involved in the deliberations over whether or not United States attorneys should resign," he told NBC.

Goodling's invocation of the Fifth Amendment rattled Republicans on Capitol Hill. Adam Putnam, the third-ranking Republican in the House of Representatives, and a staunch Bush supporter, had this to say about Gonzales: "I believe that this tornado that he's in the center of is largely of his own making, and I believe [it] does undermine his ability to continue to serve the president in the way that you would expect."

Republicans joined Democrats in the House on Monday to overwhelmingly repeal the attorney general's power to appoint U.S. attorneys when there's a vacancy, a provision slipped into the reauthorization of the Patriot Act last year. That provision is what made the placement of Rove's aide in Arkansas possible.

The Senate already passed the same appeal and the president has already indicated he will not veto it.

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I know DVD would love for Harriet take the 5th too!

But I'm sure slimy Rove will always slip through the prosecutors hands, but we hope!

Joel it doesn't look good for your Bro's in the Hood!

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Post by can't sit still » Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:11 pm

Well, it looks like the shrub is desperate to start a war to distract from his [hopefully] upcoming impeachment.

How convenient that some British sailors were caught in Iranian waters. A suspicious person might think it was all staged.

So now, the shrub is going to send in the navy to scare the piss out of Iran. We'll blow their doors off if they fire even 1 shot. I'm sure they're shaking in their sandals. Only problem is; the coast of Iran is loaded with missles that can take out our planes et cetera. What does et cetera mean? Well it means that they can probably take out our carriers too.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20070 ... y_orw538_1



So, all he has to do is send in a battle-group, let them get blown out of the water, and PRESTO,,, he has a new war.

He'll light up Persia like 4th of july.

After the dastardly Persians surprise us and shoot down our planes, he'll have a good excuse to use nukes,,,, to save American lives. It worked in Hiroshima.



The Iranians have very advanced missles. I don't believe that our "Aegis" system can do anything that would be 100%

Sink a few ships,,, beat the drums of war, and maybe he can distract congress.



I'm sure that the budget can handle a new war. I'm also sure that China won't come in.



If only the Republican guard would round up all the mullahs,,,, then MOSAD could round up all the rabbis. They could take both groups and let them fight to the death. That might cool things off enough that Israel would stop trying to convince America that Israel's enemies are America's enemies.



In spite of what we did with the Pshaw sp? , I don't believe that the current Iranians would hate us if we just left them alone. It's true that the Republican guard will march to the Dome of the Rock sooner or later, but that's not our problem.

The shrub wants to light up the whole place and let others take the heat. Fuck him.
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Post by DVD Burner » Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:37 pm

Perfect circle.

Call me a hippie.

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Post by can't sit still » Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:59 pm

[quote="DVD Burner"][url= circle.[/url]

Call me a hippie.[/quote]

DVD, here's 1 of the replies posted to that song.

"if this song came true...there would be nothing. Whats the point of peace if there isnt war ? whats so great about joy if there is no sorrow ? I love the sound of this song and all...but jeese. What would you call light if there was no darkness ? we have to have war so there is peace...we must feel sorrow so we feel joy."

I didn't know that the younger generation were such deep thinkers .
The logic is beyond me. Just think,it will all be in their hands in a few years.
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Post by K-mom » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:34 pm

Sorry - what's the point of peace if there's no war?? Are they serious?

Peace to me is sitting in a lawn chair quietly watching the sunset. I don't need to travel to another part of the world and kill people to enjoy that. There are plenty of energetic, electric, exciting things I could do that would then make that experience all the more rich.

For example, I could attend a Perfect Circle concert, get smashed around in the moshpit, help a few people up, get crushed myself, crowd surf out of there, and the sound of silence later on is oh so much sweeter....
You call it malt liquor, I call it breakfast.

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:52 am

Price of a barrel of oil jumps $6.00 and Iran more then negates the financial impact of UN sanctions in a few days!

OK someone think of something different?

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Post by Green Wood » Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:23 am

Yes, the captured Brits look like they will be released soon.

On another note;

Now that the GA Gonzales is under fire, he tries to look like a real do gooder and say's he's going to concentrate on pedophiles.

So now we have come full circle from fuckup-john ashcroft to fuck you up-Gonzales back to John Ashcroft. I remember he had the full force of the FBI doing the same thing while the terrorists were enjoying the ride in flight school!

within a year there will be another terrorist attack on american soil.
Just the way the Bush admin intented to do in 2001!

Rack up the fear!
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Post by can't sit still » Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:04 pm

This site has some absolutely fascinating info and predictions.
http://theinternationalforecaster.com/t ... php?Id=163
The guy has great insight. I read 17 pages and will continue tomorrow.
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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:56 am

Just as Green Wood predicted!

Brits are freed, oil prices have risen, UN sanctions ineffective and financially nulified.

ON Nancy's trip to syria- republicans visit days before and after she did all independant of the Bush Admin.

Chaney is a Dick!

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Post by can't sit still » Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:51 pm

The Ruslies seem to think that israel is headed for the chopping block.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... cleId=5309
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Post by Green Wood » Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:19 pm

Oh boy Wilfowitz has got caught with his Ho at the world bank.

Too bad Imus didn't just wait with the ho jokes until this newbreak because nobody would have gotten upset over this:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... Id=9521061
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Post by Bin Noddin » Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:40 am

Doesn't count unless she's also nappy-headed.
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Apollonaris Zeus
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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:05 am

Bin Noddin wrote:Doesn't count unless she's also nappy-headed.
Don't you just love these assholes to whom no rules apply?
Love them to death!

This is essence of the Bush mob of thought of follow no rules, rules are meant to be broken and if you can't then slip the rules into the bills such as the patriot act which will pass because of them terrorists are comin to get cha!

The real terrorist are in the capital!

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:11 am

Dana Perino, who said, "The president has full confidence in Paul Wolfowitz. He's done a remarkable job at the World Bank, where they are working to lift people up out of poverty from around the world."

Yeah, Paul's girlfriend was definately living in a world of poverty as a bag lady

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Post by Green Wood » Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:29 am

Mitt Romney's national health plan for the "well to do" and if you don't?;

http://www.nj.com/columns/ledger/mulshi ... xml&coll=1
I might be green, but I can burn brite with the help of my playa friends!

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