Dramady

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:10 am

This may sound familiar at first.
A girl asked her boyfriend to prove he loved her.
He was resistant.
She finally prevailed on him to stab her in the arm.
The wound is worse than planned.
She is in the hospital defending him.
He is in jail.

misfit · Post by **misfit** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:34 am

elements of comedy and drama.
hope your released soon....

BAS · Post by **BAS** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:32 am

That is one messed up girl, and I am not talking about the stab wound!

I think he needs to find a new girlfriend.

B.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:26 am

At least she isn't blaming him.
They had some excuse when they got to the hospital, but it came out somehow.
Can anyone top this for weird drama?
Ever been asked to prove something stupid to a girl?

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:28 am

misfit wrote:elements of comedy and drama.
hope your released soon....

I admit nothing.

Dork · Post by **Dork** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:38 am

I thought a dramady was a type of camel?

misfit · Post by **misfit** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:49 am

>>>>Ever been asked to prove something stupid to a girl?<<<<

no, i always get the usual from women,"if you liked me you'd screw my brains out rite here!"..... infliction of physical pain and violence,,, i'm just not that lucky...

Post by **AntiM** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:04 am

I once had a boyfriend who decided a quick way to die would be to inject linseed oil; he asked me to go first. He said he felt like dying and didn't want to go alone. I talked him out if it, but really, I should have been walking out the door.

That's the bastard who used to lock me in the apartment.

I know where he lives, but only because he was on tv last year for being involved in a bogus adoption scam and being busted for coke and pot. I'd hoped he'd died. Bastard.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:10 am

I'm trying to picture you putting up with that.

Nope.
Can't do it.

Post by **AntiM** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:41 pm

I was stupid then. Now I'd just kick his friggin' ass.

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:23 pm

AntiM is a quick study..

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:05 pm

I looked up linseed oil.
There is a variant used as a pesticide.
But linseed oil is often used as a health food.
It would be funny if you used that and ended up with a nice shiny coat.
Oh, and better heart health.

BAS · Post by **BAS** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:34 pm

Linseed oil? I don't think I have ever heard that one before.

One thing which has always kept me from suicide is that I can't think of anyway I would actually like to go! As far as they all are concerned, they suck! (Maybe if there was some way to die from orgasms...? I can't think of any real world way that would work!)

Anyway, it sounds like you are much better off without that guy, AntiM! Maybe a good ass kicking would have straightened him out.

B.

Sensei · Post by **Sensei** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:09 pm

BAS wrote:... Maybe if there was some way to die from orgasms...? I can't think of any real world way that would work!

I think it's safe to say that generally orgasms are non-lethal, but add a weak heart (and maybe a little blow in the system - see John Entwistle) and WHAMMO - you're sittin' on a cloud and playin' a harp. I believe they call it 'dying in the saddle'.

We should all be so lucky.

spectabillis · Post by **spectabillis** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:57 am

had a gf light our bed on fire when she passed out. woke with the most horrible burning eyes from smoke but just thought she was burning too much incence and went back to sleep. woke again and had to carry her to another room, 120lbs my ass.

same girl that i came back from a biz travel to find my picture in a stone bowl of water with rose petals, sample of my hair, candles, something dead and furry, and some other stuff.

most of the dramady came from sex.

Post by **AntiM** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:31 am

BAS wrote:Linseed oil? I don't think I have ever heard that one before.

One thing which has always kept me from suicide is that I can't think of anyway I would actually like to go! As far as they all are concerned, they suck! (Maybe if there was some way to die from orgasms...? I can't think of any real world way that would work!)

Anyway, it sounds like you are much better off without that guy, AntiM! Maybe a good ass kicking would have straightened him out.

B.

He wanted to inject the linseed oil out of my oil painting kit. Euw. Anyway, that was geez, almost thirty years ago. And yes, it all started with sex. Sex makes you stupid.

I've never thought suicide was a good idea, because you just never know what will happen next. I mean, your life could suck worse, but it sure as hell could get better in a hurry in unforseen ways. Like Burning Man!

AbsolutJeenyus · Post by **AbsolutJeenyus** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:44 am

First off if you think of suicide as any kind of way out... Your a fuckin pussy and the world is probably better off without you. Though I would never condone suicide. But on the other hand, if you were going to kill yourself, who the fuck goes out of their way to track down linseed oil to inject it into themselves? Chances are your going to survive and come out all fuckin retarded... You mine as well inject just straight air... Hell its free, and it will without a doubt take you out...

And as for the whole thing about dying while in an orgasm... They got something for that... Its called heroin...

But again, anyone who even considers suicide, or massive narcotic addictions such as heroin, are just fuckin pussies... So what your depressed, your life is fucked up, your parents are divorsed, or whatever... Welcome to America... We all got problems. Its the people who can overcome even the worst obstacles that life throws at you, that make you a REAL man or woman... If life was easy, it wouldnt be worth living...

Post by **mdmf007** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:13 am

I can guarantee you linseed injected in a vein will kill you with a stroke, heart failure or blood clot in your lung. I can think of less painful ways to go -

Blow yourself up with enough explosives to leave a crater. That would have to be the quickest and painless way to go.

I have to agree with Jeenyus - Suicide is a oretty shitty option. Granted I have never been that low where ending it is a viable option. I have although witnesse such atrocities that lead to self destructive behavior. BM is the vent that lets the craziness ooze out and gets me ready for another year.

eric

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:19 am

AbsolutJeenyus
I havenâ€™t really been suicidal in serious way but I used to think about it , actually thinking about the wildly dramatic and unusual ways of doing myself in cheered me up and brought the whole idea to a level of absurdity that it was obvious nothing mattered, so why bother. I havenâ€™t personally been in a black enough place where the â€œnothing matters feelingâ€

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:44 am

You lose your inerest in doing yourself after cleaning up a few..

I would get called out of the shop for that kind of work.. Then there was ths guy that slit his throat.. It did not kill him right away.. So he spend a coupel hours writting in blood on the walls..Don't no what it was.. About half way throuh he job I said to the boss: This will be my last one.. Didn't say anything else.. it was the last one they contracted ..

Sensei · Post by **Sensei** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:25 am

AbsolutPussy wrote:Your a fuckin pussy and the world is probably better off without you.

(Psst! Absolute! I think you meant to write "you're" rather than "your", and "fucking" is spelled "f-u-c-k-i-n-g".)

Nevermind.

Congratulations! Your (or is that "you're") post takes the cake as the dumbest "fuckin" thing I've ever read on e-playa, and we're talking about 7 or 8 years worth of posts here. Hell, I'm even including all mine. You, sir/madam, take the goddamned cake.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you're (there I go again! I meant "your") here. We really needed a new patsy we can all laugh at.

Lorgasm · Post by **Lorgasm** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:57 am

Suicide: A permanent solution to a temporary problem.

Sensei · Post by **Sensei** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:51 pm

Lorgasm wrote:Suicide: A permanent solution to a temporary problem.

Try telling that to a terminal cancer patient.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:32 pm

AbsolutJeenyus wrote: But again, anyone who even considers suicide, or massive narcotic addictions such as heroin, are just fuckin pussies... So what your depressed, your life is fucked up, your parents are divorsed, or whatever... Welcome to America... We all got problems. Its the people who can overcome even the worst obstacles that life throws at you, that make you a REAL man or woman... If life was easy, it wouldnt be worth living...

Fuck you in 48997 new orifices created for the occasion. I've battled the beast called depression--clinical depression--for a quarter or a century a good portion of that before fancy new reuptake inhibitors. You might as well call people who die of cancer pussies you piece of crap not fit to stick to the bottom of my shoe.

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:48 pm

FYI AbsolutJeenyus, Depression, the kind that often leads to suicide, is often caused by a chemical imbalance in the system. It can be diagnosed and treated, but not cured. A freind of mine has depression like that. Knowing what it is helps a little. Thje only medication that has worked (by pure chance) is a blood pressure medicaton. Unfortunatly the side affects are worse than the cure. Just knowing that it s a chemical imbalance helps. I wonder how many sufferers do not know?

dana · Post by **dana** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:18 pm

[quote="Zulegoona"]AbsolutJeenyus
I havenâ€™t really been suicidal in serious way but I used to think about it , actually thinking about the wildly dramatic and unusual ways of doing myself in cheered me up and brought the whole idea to a level of absurdity that it was obvious nothing mattered, so why bother. I havenâ€™t personally been in a black enough place where the â€œnothing matters feelingâ€

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:34 am

Sorry Dana, load of hooey. Continueing to live under the shadow of depression for 6 months shows more courage than Absolutshithed has shown in his entire miserable life. Yes, it's complicated, but your petty fantasies or your cluelessness about death don't really get to the misery of having to live 24 hidiously painful hours a day, day after day, in pain and horror. Whatever it is you experienced, it doesn't sound like the real deal. Plenty of AIDS patients who have lived for years with as much dignity as they can muster and become 'role models' felt as you did before their tests. And dare devil thrill seeking, for better or for worse, seems a part of the young male human animal's 'natural' state, not what happens when the brain chemistry goes off.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:16 am

Did you believe you were going to die when this experience happened to you. Dana?

BAS · Post by **BAS** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:07 pm

For me it seems to have been more a case of wanting to stop some sort of pain, generally mental (sometimes the headaches I frequently get). Part of the mental pain comes from feeling I am causing too much stress for other people, too much of a drain on their resources, too much of a disappointment to them. It also contains the feeling that there isn't any way for things to get better, that the current worthless state could very well be as good as things are ever going to be, etc.

"Getting over it", "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps", "not being a pussy", or whatever trite expression seems fashionable is pretty hard to do when all of your energy, all of your resources, are barely enough to get you out of the bed and into the bathroom to relieve yourself... and, yes, I have been there. It is a place which is difficult, if not impossible, for someone to imagine without having been there. It is a place where absolute nothingness seems like a pretty attractive option-- and, in my experience, nothingness is what is the expected result. Not a Christian afterlife-- Heaven or Hell, not reincarnation, not anything. Complete and total nothing-- like being knocked out for an operation but never reawakening. The erasing of the self.

Now, is the fact I have never carried through with a serious attempt mean I "am not a pussy", or that I am not brave enough to face the eradication of myself? To be honest, I really don't know as I want to contemplate that too much.

Even though things suck for me right now (being taken to small claims court, being unemployed, facing bankruptcy, putting up with some other stuff), I am not at my most depressed-- it was much nearer the time when I was fired I was at a low--, I am currently glad I have never gone through with suicide. I am fairly certain it is a chemical imbalance in my case-- the generic form of Prozac seems to help somewhat, and so does the AndroGel which is correcting a different imbalance (and one which does influence my mood). Weirdly, washing out my sinuses with saline solution seems to help with the headaches a bit.

IMO, one thing which would help is if we had a decent health care system in the USA. The costs, generally to people who can least afford them, keeps people away from seeking help. People who have been bankrupted by heath care costs can get into a suicidal tailspin. Even people who DO have enough money can get into trouble-- as in the case of Danielle Steele's oldest son! In his case, it was because of the lack of communication between health care providers, between medical experts! (I have known people who have nearly died because the various doctors they were seeing did not pay attention to what medications the others had prescribed.) We do NOT have a health care system in this nation: we have a heath care chaos!

Sorry for the rambling nature of this rant. I am really tired today. Plus, the whole "pussy" claim struck me as a horribly ignorant post by someone who has never faced a real challenge in his or her life, and that kind of ignorance really annoys me.

B.

dana · Post by **dana** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:42 pm

I love talking with you guys! (especially when it's something juicey)

First off, "pussy" is fightin words and carries an obvious judgement that is hurtful. So Absolut fucked up there - granted.

Crypto, you compound his mistake by making assumptions about Absolut's life - much less their entire life. You also make yourself sound (unobjective to say the least) by making similar guesses as to my life experiences ("petty fantasies", "cluelessness about death"). If you knew me, you'd know that I pretty much go after it with a vengence. And if you had read my post a little more carefully without bringing so many of your own issues into the mix, you would have noticed that I was talking more about suicidal tendencies and not necessarily depression. That said, there is also something called "masked depression" which I suspect is pretty damn prevalent, and can certainly factor in.
As far as "dare devil thrill seeking" you're showing naivete about different kinds of self-destructive and indirect suicidal behavior. I forget the fancy name - something like "suicide by proxy". Do you know how Jaco Pastorius died? Classic case.

Gyre - yes I did think I was going to die, or that at least there was a serious possibility of death. (But now that you ask directly, I have to admit that in my heart I actually expected to survive!!) Kayaking alone, self support with a loaded boat. Managed to drop into a "drowning room" with overhanging boulders and all the water dissapearing under the boulders. Popped my sprayskirt, stood up and slammed my hand into a jam crack and then began trying to pull over the lip of the overhang. Several tries, nothing for my feet. Not enough strength and muscles beginning to fatigue. No other people nearby.
(Seriously, it ended up being a great experience. This may sound wierd, but I sometimes go back to that moment and symbolically let parts of myself die under the water. Seems to help. The whole experience answered some important questions about the courage to live my life.) Thanks for asking that Gyre, because I just picked out a part I had missed.

Oh and finally, imbalanced brain chemistry isn't the whole of it, even though the drug reps might want you to believe that. Among the many classifications, there is endogenous (genetic, brain chemistry), and exogenous (life circumstances). The prevailing treatment for depression is more often than not purely chemical with no cognitive therapy even as an adjunct, for a variety of reasons not the least of which is that it's easiest.
Crypto, the only time I experienced frank depression was what is called "acute reactive depression". Mine was a wierd kind of depression, from sudden change. (Left idyllic Nepal and my girlfriend to go back to a very brutal and demanding situation - followed by the normal full gamut of symptoms). But got out of it fairly easily.
And suicide isn't only associated with depression. Feelings of hopelessness, despair, rage (especially the quiet kind), anger, etc. may be more prevalent than frank depression.

Drug cocktail anyone??