The POOP on GOOP

robotland · Post by **robotland** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:35 am

THE FLORIDA GOOP REPORT

....Yep, it works. I plan to repeat the experiment if possible, since most of the week it was in the 50's and 60's. Still felt like a freakin' heat wave, though. Now the shorts go back in the drawer for another four months.

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:02 am

robotland wrote:THE FLORIDA GOOP REPORT

....Yep, it works. I plan to repeat the experiment if possible, since most of the week it was in the 50's and 60's. Still felt like a freakin' heat wave, though. Now the shorts go back in the drawer for another four months.

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Four more months?? Steve The Playa Rat must have seen his shadow.

robotland · Post by **robotland** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:09 am

Okay, okay...TWO months. And I got the kilt out the other week, to celebrate that the temperature had reached double digits.

NEW STICKY STUFF FINDINGS

As mentioned earlier, I'm teaching a maskmaking class and using it as an excuse to experiment with new materials and techniques. Last week I tried a quick-and-sloppy method for making rough head moulds- Tinfoil over the face, and then filled with Great Stuff expanding foam. VERDICT: I think it'll work, BUT: I need to have a barrier (maybe cellophane) between the foil and the foam- There's a chemical reaction at the interface that prevents the foam from solidifying and so there's a drizzle of incredibly nasty, sticky liquid that oozes out and is TERRIBLE to clean up. (It's very much like Gorilla Glue.) I plan to try again. BUT FIRST: Something not as messy....50/50 mix of water and wood glue used to soak dryer lint, which is then wrung out lightly and pressed into a mould. I KNOW this works with plain felt, so there's NO REASON why this shouldn't work. I'll let you know on Thursday, after class. Okay...Wednesday night.

robotland · Post by **robotland** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:15 am

Sorry, folks! Forgot to report on the dryer-lint experiment....It worked.

An observation about using GOOP- It finally decided to be nice outside, and so I'm scuttling around doing paint-and-GOOP projects while the sun shines. The sun is your friend when working with GOOP- It helps cure it and really speeds up a project. (A lightbulb works too, but NOT as well.) Obviously this hold true on the playa as well, making GOOP great for projects or repairs that might otherwise take too long to set.

Mister Jellyfish Mister · Post by **Mister Jellyfish Mister** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:08 pm

I was working with Jafe in my garage during his visit, dear Robo. Your name of course came up in conversation, every time we reached for the Goop... IN SPACE!

P.S. It cures quickly in the sun but drips much slower in zero gravity.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:16 am

robotland wrote:Okay, okay...TWO months. And I got the kilt out the other week, to celebrate that the temperature had reached double digits.

NEW STICKY STUFF FINDINGS

As mentioned earlier, I'm teaching a maskmaking class and using it as an excuse to experiment with new materials and techniques. Last week I tried a quick-and-sloppy method for making rough head moulds- Tinfoil over the face, and then filled with Great Stuff expanding foam. VERDICT: I think it'll work, BUT: I need to have a barrier (maybe cellophane) between the foil and the foam- There's a chemical reaction at the interface that prevents the foam from solidifying and so there's a drizzle of incredibly nasty, sticky liquid that oozes out and is TERRIBLE to clean up. (It's very much like Gorilla Glue.) I plan to try again. BUT FIRST: Something not as messy....50/50 mix of water and wood glue used to soak dryer lint, which is then wrung out lightly and pressed into a mould. I KNOW this works with plain felt, so there's NO REASON why this shouldn't work. I'll let you know on Thursday, after class. Okay...Wednesday night.

Gorilla Glue is polyurethane.
Some of the aerosol foam is poly and some is not.
I know Touch n Foam is poly.
Seems like great stuff is someting soft.

robotland · Post by **robotland** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:10 pm

Mister Jellyfish Mister wrote:I was working with Jafe in my garage during his visit, dear Robo. Your name of course came up in conversation, every time we reached for the Goop... IN SPACE!

P.S. It cures quickly in the sun but drips much slower in zero gravity.

In space, no one can hear you GOOP.

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Tue May 08, 2007 7:21 am

I have to go out today to buy Goop .. In keeping the green (not buying "stuff").. Would Goop be good as Lock Nut?

Just put togeather one of those self assemble things.. It will be going to the desert with me..

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Tue May 08, 2007 11:38 am

I doubt it will be as strong.
Shouldn't hurt anything, until you try to take it off.

Teo del Fuego · Post by **Teo del Fuego** » Tue May 08, 2007 12:33 pm

Goop also makes excellent DIY condoms! At Kondom Kamp we will be having Make Your Own Birth Control workshops on Wednesdays

Mister Jellyfish Mister · Post by **Mister Jellyfish Mister** » Tue May 08, 2007 1:21 pm

I am reading about birth control and "lock nut" in the same thread... am I really?

It makes a good lock and unlock-nut.

robotland · Post by **robotland** » Wed May 09, 2007 6:21 am

If you experience erections lasting longer than four hours while using GOOP, consult your psychiatrist. Regarding its use as a prophylactic, I am reminded of a limerick...

There once was a couple named Kelly
Who were forced to walk belly-to-belly
Because, in their haste, they used library paste...
...instead of petroleum jelly.

Regarding the use of GOOP to lock METAL nuts- It'll work, to an extent, especially after it's had some amount of time to cure. But anything under a lot of torque will eventually tear free and then you won't have the continued resistance to loosening that you'd get using real Loctite stuff. Also, GOOP is too thick to get into the threads of all but the coarsest hardware. It'd just hang onto the nut.

A GOOP OBSERVATION:
I decided that it would be necessary to step up work on the lighter, more comfortable spacesuit after a test with the heavier one proved somewhat uncomfortable. The helmet-and-shoulder-unit that I made for Vault Of Heaven came out of mothballs, and I started to remodel some of the electrics and change from blue to green EL- And then I discovered a problem...That helmet was the first thing that I really covered with EL wire and I really, really laid the GOOP on thick to hold it in place. So, SO totally unnecessary! Having had a couple of years to set up, the GOOP was really tenacious and I had to actually rip the EL out in bits. A little dab'll do ya, as the old BrylCream slogan says.

Mister Jellyfish Mister · Post by **Mister Jellyfish Mister** » Wed May 09, 2007 7:52 am

Yes. Too much Goop, cured in the sun makes for some hard Goop indeed and I learned that on this mutant vehicle below. Now that I am de-commissioning it, I'll have my work cut out for me.

Now don't get me wrong, I don't huff the stuff, but don't you find that the smell of goop and solder just goes straight to the memory center of the brain? Some people smell flowers for the memory of a past spring, not us.

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Wed May 09, 2007 9:54 am

Guess I will charge up two batteries and strike an arc on each screw/bolt thread.. The project is two cheap saw horse.. To be use to hold the cooler in camp.. One of my lazy ass projects.. It is getting hard for me to reach thing at ground level.. Sides I stay away from the ground.. I'll be "in" it soon enough..

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Wed May 09, 2007 11:34 am

If you are worried about loosening, you could use a lock washer and double nut it.
Or peen the end of the threads.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Wed May 09, 2007 11:36 am

Mjm, that art car looks great.
Seems a shame to take it offline.

robotland · Post by **robotland** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:30 am

Let the GOOP flow!! How are those GOOP-based projects coming? I just created The Ultimate Techno-Mitt for the glory of our fearless leader, encrusting a seemingly ordinary oven mitt with "special technological devices". Should prove devastating.
Keep squeezin' those tubes!

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:47 am

That shit better be as good as you say, Steve.. Yesterday I assembled a new lavatory counter and splash boards with Goop as it's glue..

Plywood covered in black and white marble w/ splash boards 1-1/2 x 2-1/2 black and white.. New style where the sink stands above the counter.. It looks retro,"bowl and pitcher" in stainless steel.. My cost 30$.. Plumbing store 1100.øø

robotland · Post by **robotland** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:27 pm

You've got the windows and vents open, I trust...a lovely stink, but tough on the braincells in the long run.
ANOTHER oven mitt completed- This one's "theme compliant", featuring a Green Man and cavorting Monkey Cheerleader with a border of plastic flora...Magnificent! And the GOOP is drying on yet ANOTHER space helmet...

Mister Jellyfish Mister · Post by **Mister Jellyfish Mister** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:52 pm

I had some Goop stuck hard on some glass test tubes. Lacquer thinner did an OK job of loosening it so I could scrape it off with a razor. That's your Goop fact for the week!

robotland · Post by **robotland** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:05 am

http://www.amazinggoop.com/amazinggoop/index.html

What th'....? "Mend your ferret's leash"? Are they spying on us?

Mister Jellyfish Mister · Post by **Mister Jellyfish Mister** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:16 pm

Now that they have us writing poetry about their product, it's Feelth to the slaughter!

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:30 pm

just repaired some metal to plaster art with goop.. worked fine.. the guy was happy even with the bill.. he will never know..

the shop was about 38°F so put the tube in my steeping tea.. that did the job.. made a fresh tea..

poop poop duh goop and Betty Boop

Mister Jellyfish Mister · Post by **Mister Jellyfish Mister** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:49 pm

A contractor friend was over helping me install a Christmas gift to my wife (ballet barre). He told me all about his love for Tough-As-Nails or some shit-- so I gooped all over him!

Robotland: As of today, infrared sensor installed in the Geeft Me apparatus for Zsu Zsu. Works great! Just have to remember to bring some cotton swabs to clean the lenses every morning.

Elliot · Post by **Elliot** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:11 pm

...strike an arc on each screw/bolt thread

Nylocks!
Ny-lock nuts.
I'm definitely going to try this Goop of which you all speak so highly.
But for holding the nut on a bolt, I suggest ny-lock nuts. A ny-lock nut is an extra tall nut with a ring of nylon crimped into the top of the nut. The bolt bites into the nylon and the nut will NOT rattle off. They can be re-used a couple of times before the grip diminishes significantly. I use them on ALL final assemblies. I buy them by the pound at a "surplus" hardware outlet (Blue Collar Supply in Sacramento, CA).

skibear · Post by **skibear** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:08 pm

Locktite anerobic sealant from an auto parts store also
works as well to hold nuts in place.

ob Goop. Goop is great. I have 3 packages of it still covered with
Playa dust . Use this Goop about once a week.

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Elliot · Post by **Elliot** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:38 pm

Yes, Loctite is good stuff. Many race engine builders swear by it. And it is absolutely required in some critical applications. It comes in several variations for different purposes. But you have to keep that extra item on your shelf, and take time to apply it. With nylock nuts, you just slap'm on, almost as fast as regular nuts.

Post by **mdmf007** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:15 pm

Nylocks are great - but cant be used in high temp applications like engines, the nylon softens and they loose effectiveness.

Elliot · Post by **Elliot** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:35 pm

Correct.

Loctite is... ...absolutely required in some critical applications.

Sometimes I weld close to a nylock nut and watch the nylon boil!

robotland · Post by **robotland** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:38 am

Gentlemen, I appreciate the contribution of discussions of OTHER joining methods to our forum....it's ALL good, and even mighty GOOP falls short in SOME applications. (I was trying to bond some nylon components yesterday, and GOOP just doesn't like to play with the slippery plastics...)

GOOP in the new year! *raising my tube high*