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Just Asking...
If world sea levels are rising... just how many feet under water will New Orleans be in 2050?
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Re: Just Asking...
It is thirty feet below now.Wind_Borne wrote:If world sea levels are rising... just how many feet under water will New Orleans be in 2050?
So, I'd guess more than that.
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Re: Just Asking...
Hmmm... Baton Rouge... it's the new New Orleansgyre wrote:It is thirty feet below now.Wind_Borne wrote:If world sea levels are rising... just how many feet under water will New Orleans be in 2050?
So, I'd guess more than that.
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Unfinished wood beams may look nice, but they are really nasty to clean! Two days in a row coming home completely covered in dust, soot, and sawdust from cleaning those things-- and still at least a day's worth ahead!
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I can see the light at the end of the tunnel! I'm five weeks from graduation!!!!!! Of course, I'm only receiving my Associates Degree, but it's still an accomplishment. Now the challenge is to find a job and figure out how the FUCK I'm gonna pay for my Bachelors and Masters Degrees... Still, feeling rather proud that I, a high-school dropout, can actually follow through on at least one of my educational goals.
Hooray!
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Congratulations.
A great accomplishment when they have made it as hard as it is today.
You should be happy about this.
And we should all be doing something to make it possible for anyone who can make the grades, to afford to go.
The loan program is disgraceful, even without the current corruption.
Keep at it.
A great accomplishment when they have made it as hard as it is today.
You should be happy about this.
And we should all be doing something to make it possible for anyone who can make the grades, to afford to go.
The loan program is disgraceful, even without the current corruption.
Keep at it.
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Better yet, if you have access to a farmer's market, buy local produce. I've sat on the truck, I know how far those fruits and veggies are shipped at 6 miles to the gallon of diesel. Befriend a trucker who hauls reefer units, the amount of food thrown out is disgraceful, and they often end up with it on their hands and are happy to give it away.Ugly Dougly wrote:Shop around the outside wall of the supermarket. The fresh food is along there. The canned stuff is in the middle; that's where the poison's at.
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Way to go!OregonRed wrote:I can see the light at the end of the tunnel! I'm five weeks from graduation!!!!!! Of course, I'm only receiving my Associates Degree, but it's still an accomplishment. Now the challenge is to find a job and figure out how the FUCK I'm gonna pay for my Bachelors and Masters Degrees... Still, feeling rather proud that I, a high-school dropout, can actually follow through on at least one of my educational goals.
Hooray!
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It guess it's a well recognized fact that we have enough food to feed everyone in the world, even in those war torn African nations, were it not for political corruption. Think of the opening scene of "Black Hawk Down", where the local warlords kill people at a UN food distrubition site. Why? Because he who controls the food controls the people.AntiM wrote: Better yet, if you have access to a farmer's market, buy local produce. I've sat on the truck, I know how far those fruits and veggies are shipped at 6 miles to the gallon of diesel. Befriend a trucker who hauls reefer units, the amount of food thrown out is disgraceful, and they often end up with it on their hands and are happy to give it away.
A not so well known fact, locally grown food usually has a higher carbon foot print than globally grown food. Why? Energy used for transportation is minor compared to the energy used for production. The most energy efficient way to get food to market is to grow it where it grows best, and ship it to where it is consumed. For instance, it takes less energy (and releases less carbon) to put lamb chop on a table in England from a New Zealand lamb than an English lamb. And it's cheaper, too (because it took less energy to raise and deliver).
As to the quality of the produce at the farmer's market... that's a different matter.
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Because he who controls the food controls the people.
Its the simplest commodities that control our lives - like beef, grain, oil, power, tires, etc. disruption if these items will cause riots..
check out the amount of food that ADM controls worldwide - scary stuff.
Another fact that i find interesting is our capacity for shipping. Ask a trucker they know this well. Not many trucking companies keep extra tractors sittign idle in case of need. There is only a 3-4% surge capacity in trucking in this country. This means that when there is a Katrina size event there arent enough trucks to go around and deliver. Without surge capacity you have to short other cuspomers, dely deliveries or cancel contracts outright.
Why? It does not pay to have tractors sit idle, and is a crappy business model that does not pay - thats why its not done.
anyways - in an ideal world I would see the food more evenly distributed, but then it would just lead to more overpopulation, and even more need for food to be distributed.
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Pareto Principle: The first 20% of effort yields 80% of the results; and the last 20% of results costs 80% of the effort.mdmf007 wrote: Another fact that i find interesting is our capacity for shipping. Ask a trucker they know this well. Not many trucking companies keep extra tractors sittign idle in case of need. There is only a 3-4% surge capacity in trucking in this country. This means that when there is a Katrina size event there arent enough trucks to go around and deliver. Without surge capacity you have to short other cuspomers, dely deliveries or cancel contracts outright.
Why? It does not pay to have tractors sit idle, and is a crappy business model that does not pay - thats why its not done.
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Can you give some more detail on how that works? A well-fed lamb is a lamb no matter where it is... Or do they grow better in New Zealand?Wind_Borne wrote:For instance, it takes less energy (and releases less carbon) to put lamb chop on a table in England from a New Zealand lamb than an English lamb. And it's cheaper, too (because it took less energy to raise and deliver).
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Yup. Due to the climate and terrain, it takes fewer resources to raise a lamb in NZ.The CO wrote:Can you give some more detail on how that works? A well-fed lamb is a lamb no matter where it is... Or do they grow better in New Zealand?Wind_Borne wrote:For instance, it takes less energy (and releases less carbon) to put lamb chop on a table in England from a New Zealand lamb than an English lamb. And it's cheaper, too (because it took less energy to raise and deliver).
Check out the article "Food Politics" in the December 7th, 2006 issue of the Economist. If you're interested I could look for an electonic copy of the article.
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