I need help!

Me2 · Post by **Me2** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:06 am

unjonharley wrote:Kon was one mean SOB.. They did not take prisoners.. You eather rode with him or you were dead.. He had ways of making examples.. Removing your head was one of his fav's

Sounds like a real fun guy...NOT.

Me2 · Post by **Me2** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:12 am

gyre wrote:It does seem to be a mongol game.
Some literature says it is based on stealing livestock.
In any case it's a game of skill and horsemanship.
It is also played with a bag of sand.
You could do that, right?

Do I get some sort of stick/hook to grab the sand bags with??...otherwise I'm fairly certain I'd be coming off that horse...

I think hanging about with lager lads and attending european football matches would be much more dangerous and not so much fun.

I'm gonna have to take your word for that one!

Me2 · Post by **Me2** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:17 am

Actually the "revolution" is already quietly going on. People are gradually gaining a sense of the value of their emotions and developing more finesse in dealing with their own emotional depth. Take for instance the idea of being a "martyr". Some years back it seemed to me a very novel idea, but since then its become common knowledge.

Its happening in all kinds of ways: transpersonal psychology and other cognitve therapies, marriage counseling that teaches couples to be more responsive and vulnerable to their emotions, all kinds of "touchy feely" encounter groups - (some of which are a little over the top!!), pretty much anything that shows that possibility. Hell even those hokey TV shows like Oprah are modeling behavior for thousands to view. It all rubs off and gets incorporated eventually. People individually find something that works for them. If it had no actual value it would be rejected as only the latest passing fad.

I'm lost for words....how do u know all this stuff??....can we swop brains...please.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:37 am

Me2 wrote:Do I get some sort of stick/hook to grab the sand bags with??...otherwise I'm fairly certain I'd be coming off that horse...

It's a tough game.
Once you're carrying the extra weight, everyone else has two hands free and less weight to carry.
And they are chasing you!
It's like rigging a race so no one can win.

Clearly a great horse would be required.
I met a us champion cutter once.
Definitely the smartest horse I've ever seen.
It's strange to have a horse looking at you that's smarter than some people.
I'd be happy to jump in on a horse like that.

Me2 · Post by **Me2** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 2:33 am

Clearly a great horse would be required.
I met a us champion cutter once.
Definitely the smartest horse I've ever seen.
It's strange to have a horse looking at you that's smarter than some people.
I'd be happy to jump in on a horse like that.

So I'm guessing that my almost 17 hand Warmblood just isn't going to cut it in this game?!

I watched a drafting comp I while back and I have nothing but respect for both the horses and their riders. I was in awe.

Well (as another famous Australian said) such is life.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:32 am

If you're talking about scandanavian warmbloods, they should be great.
Most games are played with shorter horses, though I don't see it being mandatory.
The cutter was a palomino and seemed large to me, but it may have just been the way he looked me right in the eyes and watched me.

The mongol ponies were small, but they say they had endurance far beyond any modern breed.
They are supposed to be rare now, which seems hard to understand.

I like horses with a stable disposition anyway.

Me2 · Post by **Me2** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:06 pm

I like horses with a stable disposition anyway.

No pun intended i'm sure!

He's a Holsteiner Warmblood, so picture a tall black carriage horse...probably not what we need for this game. Although I did recently find a home for my beautiful 4yr old 14hh paint horse (he was my baby), he would have been perfect for the sport of the game but he lacked the temperament...I had a rather savage fall off him last year! It hurts just thinking about it!

Hey, could u modify this game and play it on say bikes?...or is that too lame?

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:38 am

Nothing is too lame for burning man.
I think that's one of the ten principles.

I wouldn't want to bump into someone on a bike though.
They might get tangled up.
Interesting idea though.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:44 am

In regard to your accident, ouch.

They still haul timber here with horses.
They can get into places without damage that machines can't.

Me2 · Post by **Me2** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:18 pm

gyre wrote:They still haul timber here with horses.
They can get into places without damage that machines can't.

That's really interesting, because last year our state government tried to put a stop to trail riding in state forests due to the 'damage' they cause. Funny how the motorbike riders didn't come under scrutiny though...??

What other sorts of games are played out on the playa?

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:17 pm

My mind kind of locks up when I try to think of them all.
A lot of them have been posted on here and there are pictures of many of them.
The human sized operation game comes to mind though.
I think when you make a mistake, you really get shocked.
And it has all kinds of bells and lights.
And there is a giant mousetrap game a city block long.
Someone mentioned human bowling.
I think there are a lot of giant kids games.
There is the famous sixty foot teeter totter.
Merry-go-rounds.

Me2 · Post by **Me2** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:52 am

So what you're saying is it's a real adult playground!

Awesome!!

Now I'm really pining to attend...but short of winning the lotto or selling my mother for scientific research (*have to think about that one*) it's just not going to happen this year.

I have no real concept of the cost involved once I hit American soil, I can't even get my head around the airfares.

....not to mention the fact I know absolutely no-one there!

But, where there's a will there's a way and I'm determined it will happen.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:20 am

Check the promotional tours that involve the airline.
I saw one to australia that was about the same as the best airfare, but it included hotels.
I found one to thailand for $900 and that included two weeks of hotels, tours, etc.
I think standard airfare was $3500 at the time.
Check the promotions by countries or airlines themselves.

It is indeed a giant playground.
What were you thinking it was?
They even had a pulse jet last year that you could ride round and round on.
You want a game?
How about Dance Dance Immolation?
In 2005, we had the evil vending machine, which offered all things and tried to corrupt it's customers.

There's a lot on the board about flying in and attending.
If you don't find enough detail, just ask.

dana · Post by **dana** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:33 am

Me2 wrote:I'm lost for words....how do u know all this stuff??....can we swop brains...please.

Wow. Brain envy. Let me just bask in this for a moment.......

(sigh)

Have you seen that movie - Defending your Life?

Well thanks for the compliment, but I think the compliment really comes right back at you. There are lots of people with some pretty cool ideas on eplaya. It seems we share certain tendencies - (I took a peek at your profile. "things I can't understand but want to.") You know most people are not too fond of skating out on thin ice. I suspect that since you're still in school that I'm a bit older than you, so maybe part of what is going on is that I'm charging your jets for the person that you are becoming? You seem like you already have that brain and mind.

But also you are a good voice on eplaya. You don't know it maybe, but you get very good responses from folks. I think its because of your curiosity, upbeat attitude, enthusiasm and outlook, not to mention that you help to actually keep a conversation going (which tends to be rare on eplaya.) You actually inspire people to give better posts. Its true!

Fat SAM · Post by **Fat SAM** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:38 am

gyre wrote:I wouldn't want to bump into someone on a bike though.
They might get tangled up.
Interesting idea though.

A friend and I were riding out to Camp Israel in '05, I think. They were way out at ten oclock and halfway back or more from esplanade...Nothing was really around and it was Sunday, too, so a lot of people had already split. I was passing him a beer and drinking a beer and was fairly in my cups by then already and as I passed the beer as I swerved into his front tire. He was thrown over his bars and onto me where we landed in a heap of tangled legs and chains and aluminum tubing...Thankfully, though the beers were spilled, their were new beers to aid us.

Bike DUI crashes are funny, but not fun.

And Dana, Defending your life is an awesome flick...Fear holding you back from trascending...Does that sound familiar?

dana · Post by **dana** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:16 am

Fat SAM wrote:
gyre wrote:I wouldn't want to bump into someone on a bike though.
They might get tangled up.
Interesting idea though.

Bike DUI crashes are funny, but not fun.

And Dana, Defending your life is an awesome flick...Fear holding you back from trascending...Does that sound familiar?

I liked the part about brain envy.
I do think the afterlife period is a little bit like that, where you confront the lessons which you did or did not learn and prepare for the next. I once encountered what I believe is that part of our consciousness that is very prominent during the "between incarnations" period. The very heavy sense I got was that I really needed to "get it" this lifetime or there would be a lot of frustration and sorrow when I got back to that place again.

As far as the bikes.... my friends and I used to play "bike polo", definitely on grass. A crash onto the playa could be ugly.

Fat SAM · Post by **Fat SAM** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:28 pm

dana wrote: A crash onto the playa could be ugly.

There was blood. Fortunately, we're both tough as nails. Walk on water, eat bullets, and shit ice cream. Dig?

Me2 · Post by **Me2** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:00 pm

gyre wrote:It is indeed a giant playground. What were you thinking it was? They even had a pulse jet last year that you could ride round and round on. You want a game? How about Dance Dance Immolation?
In 2005, we had the evil vending machine, which offered all things and tried to corrupt it's customers.

"evil vending machine"??...please tell me more.

There's a lot on the board about flying in and attending.
If you don't find enough detail, just ask.

Thanks gyre, you're very helpful and I really appreciate it.

Me2 · Post by **Me2** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:19 pm

Have you seen that movie - Defending your Life?

Sorry, I've never even heard of it....please explain?

I suspect that since you're still in school that I'm a bit older than you, so maybe part of what is going on is that I'm charging your jets for the person that you are becoming? You seem like you already have that brain and mind.

Thanks for the compliment, hopefully I'm always becoming/growing, but I don't want to mislead anyone; just because I'm in uni doesn't necessarily mean I'm a youth. I dropped out of high school six weeks before graduation and ran away to make my own way in the world. Partly out of rebellion, partly out of curiosity, partly for the love of a guy that turned out to be a complete jerk! Then I reached a point in life where my ability to source knowledge outstripped my hunger for answers; I completed my senior English, sat the Special Tertiary Admissions Test, and the rest is history. I'm almost half-way through my degree now and I will never, ever be able to view the world in the same narrow way that I used to. The whole experience has opened me up to endless perspectives and possibilites. I wouldn't have got as much out of it without the 'worldly' experience prior to entering into study.

But also you are a good voice on eplaya. You don't know it maybe, but you get very good responses from folks. I think its because of your curiosity, upbeat attitude, enthusiasm and outlook, not to mention that you help to actually keep a conversation going (which tends to be rare on eplaya.) You actually inspire people to give better posts. Its true!

I don't know quite what to say after that; I feel very humbled. Thank you.

Me2 · Post by **Me2** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:23 pm

A friend and I were riding out to Camp Israel in '05, I think.....

OUCH!......Mmmm...beer.

dana · Post by **dana** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:42 pm

Defending your Life?

You should rent it! Its funny. Meryl Streep and Rip Torn

Anyway, its this funny take on the afterdeath experience where people have to go to a kind of court to "defend their life". The guy has had a lifetime of making fear choices, whereas Meryl Streep has led this courageous life. They contrast the two of them against each other while they develop a romance. Its cute.

"Brain envy" came from that movie.

Me2 · Post by **Me2** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:01 am

dana wrote:Defending your Life?

You should rent it! Its funny. Meryl Streep and Rip Torn

Anyway, its this funny take on the afterdeath experience where people have to go to a kind of court to "defend their life". The guy has had a lifetime of making fear choices, whereas Meryl Streep has led this courageous life. They contrast the two of them against each other while they develop a romance. Its cute.

"Brain envy" came from that movie.

Sounds like a really interesting concept for a movie. I'm really, really not a Meryl Streep fan so I'm not likely to see it.

I think I suffer from brain envy just about every time I get on the eplaya lately. Between u, FatSam and itwazed I'm getting left in the dust. I bask in your collective greatness. Lead on.

dana · Post by **dana** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:10 am

Sophie's Choice?? What's not to like?

There's another "afterdeath" movie that MDM mentioned which is also kind of cool with Robin Williams playing a serious role - What Dreams May Come. I think it actually comes very close to describing the afterdeath experience, until the movie degenerates into a more Hollywood version that was not the writer's original concept.

Me2 · Post by **Me2** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:05 pm

I have seen What Dreams May Come and thoroughly enjoyed it, but it was quite a while ago so I don't remember all the finer details. How should it have ended? I liked the fact that they got to choose to be reborn. It wasn't just a predetermined fact/fate.

dana · Post by **dana** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:54 pm

Me2 wrote:I have seen What Dreams May Come and thoroughly enjoyed it, but it was quite a while ago so I don't remember all the finer details. How should it have ended? I liked the fact that they got to choose to be reborn. It wasn't just a predetermined fact/fate.

I'm not sure whether it was the ending so much that got tweaked. The movie goes into this one part where they approach a whole portion of the "realm" that they're in, which I think was a take-off on hell with the ship and people wailing. The ending may have been exactly what the writer intended with an interesting resolution where Robin William's character realizes that the guy helping him is his actual son and his wife is gradually drawn out of the self-created hell that she's put herself into.

I've had the chance to talk to people who have had near-death experiences. Supposedly some people will have ones in which they start to go to something that looks like hell. I've been told that its the projections that people take into that transition combined with their shame for their lives. They start heading in..... and then think better.

Me2 · Post by **Me2** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:00 pm

...his wife is gradually drawn out of the self-created hell that she's put herself into.....I've had the chance to talk to people who have had near-death experiences. Supposedly some people will have ones in which they start to go to something that looks like hell. I've been told that its the projections that people take into that transition combined with their shame for their lives. They start heading in..... and then think better.

That's an interesting take on things. I know we're creeping into the realm of other threads, but I find it easier to conceptualize a self-created hell, wheather due to guilt, shame, disappointment etc., than the whole eternal punishment from an angry god. Some may say they're already living in hell. Does that make the playa the devil's playground??

dana · Post by **dana** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:28 pm

Me2 wrote: Does that make the playa the devil's playground??

Well.... let me put it this way.

You've seen my avatar.
That's an actual picture of me.

drop dead sexy, no?

Me2 · Post by **Me2** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:19 pm

.... let me put it this way.

You've seen my avatar.
That's an actual picture of me.

Laughed so much I nearly fell of my toadstool!

Seriously...what IS your avatar?

dana · Post by **dana** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:03 pm

Me2 wrote:
Seriously...what IS your avatar?

The "ogre" from Pan's Labyrinth Mike graciously helped me get an avatar on a thread of the same name. (Very cool movie if you've never seen it.)

Me2 · Post by **Me2** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:12 pm

The "ogre" from Pan's Labyrinth Mike graciously helped me get an avatar on a thread of the same name. (Very cool movie if you've never seen it.)

I haven't seen it. Is it anything like the old David Bowie version? Or am I thinking of the wrong movie altogether?