Avoiding Enviro-Preachers: "Green Means Go"

Mister Jellyfish Mister · Post by **Mister Jellyfish Mister** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:46 am

What is the sound of one hand clapping? That's the sound of somebody talking to my back as I walk away. When it comes to folks preaching at me on how I should be "greener", I will have no tolerance for it at Burning Man 2007. Crap like that is like talking to an artist in front of their work and starting your sentence with "What you should've done was...".

I'll certainly make my best efforts for an environmentally sound and leave-no-trace experience, but I just know their is going to be a contingency of "greener than thou" monkeys that would rather talk all day than have a sensational burn.

So if you simply must spew green, that's my signal to split or, if you're really bad, I'll behave like a mad chimpanzee and throw space food sticks at you that I collect from my evacuation bag.

Who's with me on this "Green Means Go" philosophy?

MikeVDS · Post by **MikeVDS** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:57 am

I agree, though it will start with my completely apathetic, "I just want to burn more" attitude, and if they don't get the hint, then walk away.

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:22 am

Mister Jellyfish Mister wrote:...a contingency of "greener than thou" monkeys that would rather talk all day than have a sensational burn....

Ummm... Monkeys? Damn - I was just thinking that had U-Me gone the other way how awesome that would have been. heh heh heh...

WANTED: One (1) annoying-assed 16 foot anthropomorphic monkey, floppy rubbery hands preferred, to generally bother, bug, and otherwise fuck with hucksters bent on changing BRC for the worse. Must be totally disgusting and enjoy terrorizing hapless fuckwits. Please apply at: Personnel Office, Enclosure #26, Skytower Annex, (Animal Weapons Section), Black Rock City, NV. (AN AA/EEO employer).

Mister Jellyfish Mister wrote:...So if you simply must spew green, that's my signal to split or, if you're really bad, I'll behave like a mad chimpanzee and throw space food sticks at you that I collect from my evacuation bag.

Who's with me on this "Green Means Go" philosophy?

I prefer the latter course of action. If they spew their trash, then I have the right to spew mine.

(And remember - the trucks that constantly do the JOTS service, as well as the water trucks, create immense hydrocarbon pollution constantly. So do your part - Pee on the playa, and in the roads, for a greener BRC in 2007!)

We're with ya!!!

Post by **AntiM** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:29 am

Spew green? I'm supposed to vomit on them?

EvilDustBooger · Post by **EvilDustBooger** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:35 am

Don`tcha green on me
I`ll get mean don`tcha see
And I`ll pee on yer knee
If you green on me

Don`t fill me with swill
And then send me a bill
to clean up the spill
off your Mercedes grill

Cuz I`ll pee on your knee
If you green on me
Stand clear let me be
Don`tcha green on me

I feel a movement coming

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:35 am

ROLFF , er, ROTFL!!!

I was just looking at the kewl stickers from last year sitting on my desk - Bt "BRC" sticker, the rectangular Hope and Fear one (I like that), and the round one with the streamlined coal burning smoke belching steam locomotive.

When I think about the "Hope and Fear" theme last year... yeah. Prophetic.

(BTW - smooches to ya, AntiM!!)

blyslv · Post by **blyslv** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:46 am

I drink lots of green tea...

...in my hotrod Lincoln.

Mister Jellyfish Mister · Post by **Mister Jellyfish Mister** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:03 am

How 'bout just stabbing a finger toward the trash fence and screaming "Green Means Go!" at them?

Dork · Post by **Dork** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:31 am

Perhaps tshirt art would be appropriate to head off such comments.

I imagine the green man bent over with a guy having his way with him from behind, in front of a tricked out hummer with a fire cannon, while tossing a fast food container on the ground.

CapSmashy · Post by **CapSmashy** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:34 am

Preach it Brother Jellyfish.

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:45 am

Say AAAAYYYY-MEN!!!!!

EB · Post by EB » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:21 am

I'm with you, too, Jelly! IN (open) SPACE...

With the exception of Dr. Seuss' Lorax, I can't imagine there's a lot of people, let alone burners, who would argue AGAINST protecting the environment. It's a non-starter. But what's insiduous about the BORG allowing in these green companies to showcase their stuff is that it puts us in a fucking lose-lose situation.

Suddenly, if I don't want to have Google set up a kiosk, I'm now "anti-earth." If I don't want a solar power company making backroom promotional deals with Marion and Larry, I'm Ann Coulter.

...Because why stop at the environment? There's a lot of shitty stuff that's going on in the world. Bono and many Hollywood stars have started the (red) campaign which donates a portion of a companies sales to Africa. Should we have a kiosk for them, too? Why not? Why worry about reducing a carbon footprint when there's human lives at stake?

What about Darfur? Or Gaza? Or affordable pharmacueticals for everybody? These are all worthy causes that deserve attention that no doubt would be well-served by the filet mignon that is the Burning Man demographic (predominantly white males with demonstrably disposable incomes and not-fully-ingrained brand loyalties.)

I'm with you, Jelly, I think we need to hold the BORG's feet to the fire on this.

We can be pro-environment without being pro-advertising. (And make no mistake, the companies showcasing their wares at this pavillion ARE advertising...)

Mister Jellyfish Mister · Post by **Mister Jellyfish Mister** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:38 am

Wow. Boycott the Man. That's pretty inspiring. If we could find a way to make it more lose than win for the corps that are there, I'll bet they don't come back and the Borg could get a message. Then again, I'm against coffee sales at center camp.

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:31 pm

Mistor Spineless fish, This thread has left you open to yet another attack.. I will be honing my greening storys just for you.. Duck and run for cover..

From the other side of doom..hehehehe

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:55 pm

Fuck 'em. This is Burning Man. Radical Self Reliance. Green starts at home... and Ends at home. If and when I decide that I need something that I cannot or do not want to make then I will go looking for it. Shoving it in my face will only insure that I look somewhere else if I ever need it.

However. Should I see your booth on the playa I will stop by long enough to fart in your direction.

Das Bus · Post by **Das Bus** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:23 am

The closest I ever got to the Man last year, was when I was doing the Burning Dragon Project; and I was still a feww hundred feet away. I didn't even go watch the Man burn.

So it's doubtful I will even see any of the products, and like I said on another thread; I can't afford any of this 'green' crap anyways. Any marketing effort is wasted on me.

I do wish I had some cash to print up stickers like: Burning Man EXPO '07 - Burning Man Trade Show, Black Rock Desert, 2007 , etc...

I'd also like to do a Pollution Theme Camp and see how much energy I can waste, and how much MOOP I can create... oh wait, I already do that! LOL!

BigCock · Post by **BigCock** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:02 am

I don't see the theme getting enough traction to become generally annoying. It doesn't have much artistic potential compared to, for example, Hope and Fear or the Floating World. I predict the green stuff will be a strange side show. That is, except for my Green Man recipe which I am sure will be a big hit. http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 01&start=7
So Jelly, please check with me before you dispatch anyone to the trash fence in case I'm running low on meat.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:59 am

We need to see lots of green smoke this year.

Rusted Iron · Post by **Rusted Iron** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:20 am

What are you talking about?

This is a serious question because I have no idea if "allowing in these green companies to showcase their stuff" is a rumor or if solar salesmen and green-credit-pyramid-schemers are going to be taking over center camp while John Tesh plays the sax.

Pras

Rusted Iron · Post by **Rusted Iron** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:21 pm

A friend just send me this link:

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/business ... 100117064/

MikeVDS · Post by **MikeVDS** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:31 am

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:01 pm

AHAA HAA HAA!!!

Tire Man!!

I've never been one to enjoy people sitting there with their finger pointed at me telling me how I should do whatever their current thing is.

If people start to preach, I'll just give 'em a toot of The Contraption's flame exhaust smokestack. I don't think it'll be that bad, though. There's lots of fire art being funded this year.

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:43 pm

MikeVDS wrote:

No! No! You can't burn him. He's my brother!

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:27 pm

Piss Clear

Pee Green ??

Going to have to stock up on the asparagus.

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:19 pm

It's a good thing I don't give a shit what the "theme" is, and never have.
It's usually something stupid and I've always ignored it.

EspressoDude · Post by **EspressoDude** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:39 pm

goathead wrote:Piss Clear

Pee Green ??

Going to have to stock up on the asparagus.

Or make some lime green Kool-Aid with about 6 packages per 1/2 gallon and you WILL piss GREEN

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:42 pm

And your kidneys will love you for it!!

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:35 pm

EspressoDude wrote:
goathead wrote:Piss Clear

Pee Green ??

Going to have to stock up on the asparagus.
Or make some lime green Kool-Aid with about 6 packages per 1/2 gallon and you WILL piss GREEN

I once bought some green bagels for St. Patricks Day. They nust have but a lot of green colloring in them because I had green poop for 2 weeks.

Mister Jellyfish Mister · Post by **Mister Jellyfish Mister** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:42 pm

Maybe it's all just reverse psychology. An easy trick with us creative types is to just TRY to tell us how to do something....!

MikeVDS · Post by **MikeVDS** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:31 pm

An easy trick with us creative types is to just TRY to tell us how to do something....!

Yep. I'm all about conservation most of the time but when people start telling me how I should act, you can bet your buttons I'll figure out a different way to do things. I don't think following the crowd is something that most burners like to do. I didn't say we don't do it, just that we don't like it.

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