Big Brother in your pocket

Rocket75377 · Post by **Rocket75377** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:52 am

Frightening. Reactions?

The FBI appears to have begun using a novel form of electronic surveillance in criminal investigations: remotely activating a mobile phone's microphone and using it to eavesdrop on nearby conversations.

Article: http://news.com.com/FBI+taps+cell+phone ... 40191.html

Video:

MikeVDS · Post by **MikeVDS** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:02 am

I have to figure out how to do this myself.

joel the ornery · Post by **joel the ornery** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:14 am

i guess it would be a problem if you are involved in illegal activities.

file under "law of unintended consequences"

MikeVDS · Post by **MikeVDS** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:23 am

i guess it would be a problem if you are involved in illegal activities.

"If you give me six lines written by the most honest man, I will find something in them to hang him." - Cardinal Richelieu

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:20 am

MikeVDS wrote:I have to figure out how to do this myself.

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My little FM transmitter and a switch from the remote airplane control.. 25$ three to five hundred feet

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:11 am

They need a warrant if they want to use it as evidence in a court of law.

If they just want to spy on some chicks out of boredom, we can't stop them.

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:26 pm

This has been going on since 2003, possibly longer. When I first heard about it in 03 it was used against some mob guy and a ton of information was obtained. On a side note OnStar is also being used to monitor criminals and one can also turn on PC mics and webcams with a trojan that can be dropped into a machine via a webpage. Even more off topic.. Ever hear of the snitch/narc getting exposed exposed because the dealer had a police scanner running on his table?

Somnivore · Post by **Somnivore** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:50 pm

Saw a special the other day about the Cold War and the CIA using animals. They showed their cat project where a cat had a microtransmitter implanted under the skin. The idea was that since cats are everywhere, noone would notice a stray walking around while some covert action was going on. Now think about how long ago that was, imagine the technology available today!

Green Wood · Post by **Green Wood** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:18 pm

joel the ornery wrote:i guess it would be a problem if you are involved in illegal activities.

file under "law of unintended consequences"

Former police officer killed in N.J.
The Associated Press
Article Last Updated: 07/16/2007 10:37:03 PM MDT

TOTOWA, N.J.â€”A former police officer struck two people with his car in a municipal parking lot, then shot and wounded a Totowa officer who returned fire and killed him Monday night.

If a Cop can do this as a former, then what would stop him from doing while he's a cop.

You can fuck someone up in many ways and never arrest him for breaking a law using a simple device like a bug to get personal and business information.

I hear they like those nice built in video cams and mic on your laptop too.

Joel I would worry if I was you. You're one of those Republican trouble makers and the Dems are inside your computer knowing who you send those Resumes to! Then one of them sends your internet profiles to those companies about your sexual habits and posts on eplaya. What was that machine you were trying to sell: the Orgasmatron was it!

You don't need to break a law to have someone fuck up YOUR life. They just need information. Thats All!

MikeVDS · Post by **MikeVDS** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:32 pm

I hear they like those nice built in video cams and mic on your laptop too.

Back in 97 I was listening in and watching those. Very insecure if you're hooked into the internet with millions of bored college kids.

Green Wood · Post by **Green Wood** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:43 pm

MikeVDS wrote:
I hear they like those nice built in video cams and mic on your laptop too.
Back in 97 I was listening in and watching those. Very insecure if you're hooked into the internet with millions of bored college kids.

Oh, we know about you Mike. when you were looking in, we were looking at you.

I still think some of those tapes of you still make it around this dept, especially the one where you were...

MikeVDS · Post by **MikeVDS** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:01 pm

And me wiggling my naked butt at you guys didn't give away that you weren't so sneaky either? Or do you think I just do that on normal occasions? (_o_)

tisha2 · Post by **tisha2** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:04 pm

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unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:22 pm

tisha2 wrote:i have a pocket rocket.... does that count???

pocket rocket..rocket pocket..does that count?

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tisha2 · Post by **tisha2** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:51 pm

ummmmm, okay - i only go camping once a year... tho' i do other things far more often... you guess which one i meant.

joel the ornery · Post by **joel the ornery** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:02 am

tisha2 wrote:i have a pocket rocket.... does that count???

of course it counts.

see you in the bar, sometime.

Aiee! It burns! · Post by **Aiee! It burns!** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:12 pm

Telephone lines can be used as the transmission medium for devices called "infinity transmitters" or "harmonica bugs". These are covert listening devices connected either inside a target's telephone or somewhere along the telephone line and activated by calling the number. The circuitry silences the ringer long enough for the eavesdropper to send a control tone that activates the microphone. This allows surveillance to be conducted from anywhere in the world, hence the name "infinity". With the advent of remotely programmable mobile telephone technology (smartphones, etc.), this technique can be used without having to plant anything. Called "roving bugs", it involves the upload of surveillance software to the target phone.

tisha2 · Post by **tisha2** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:55 am

Aiee! It burns! wrote:
Telephone lines can be used as the transmission medium for devices called "infinity transmitters" or "harmonica bugs". These are covert listening devices connected either inside a target's telephone or somewhere along the telephone line and activated by calling the number. The circuitry silences the ringer long enough for the eavesdropper to send a control tone that activates the microphone. This allows surveillance to be conducted from anywhere in the world, hence the name "infinity". With the advent of remotely programmable mobile telephone technology (smartphones, etc.), this technique can be used without having to plant anything. Called "roving bugs", it involves the upload of surveillance software to the target phone.

could you cite your source for that please?? sounds fishy to me...

Sensei · Post by **Sensei** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:05 pm

What this means, my sweet Tish-the-delish, is that I can activate your pocket rocket with my cell phone.

I've got you on speed dial, lady.

blyslv · Post by **blyslv** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:23 pm

joel the ornery wrote:i guess it would be a problem if you are involved in illegal activities.

file under "law of unintended consequences"

Spoken like a true apologist for the abuse of power.

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Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:55 pm

can't delete?

Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:02 pm

Good article, Blowsleeves. Thanks

Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:05 pm

Ugly Dougly wrote:can't delete?
:oops:

Nope - and Now Joel the O will use his PocketRocket to find and retrieve that-which-you-do-not-want-us-to-read. You've got nothing to hide, right?

Aiee! It burns! · Post by **Aiee! It burns!** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:07 pm

tisha2 wrote:ummmmm, okay - i only go camping once a year... tho' i do other things far more often... you guess which one i meant.

You think that we need to guess?

Aiee! It burns! · Post by **Aiee! It burns!** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:08 pm

tisha2 wrote:
Aiee! It burns! wrote:
Telephone lines can be used as the transmission medium for devices called "infinity transmitters" or "harmonica bugs". These are covert listening devices connected either inside a target's telephone or somewhere along the telephone line and activated by calling the number. The circuitry silences the ringer long enough for the eavesdropper to send a control tone that activates the microphone. This allows surveillance to be conducted from anywhere in the world, hence the name "infinity". With the advent of remotely programmable mobile telephone technology (smartphones, etc.), this technique can be used without having to plant anything. Called "roving bugs", it involves the upload of surveillance software to the target phone.
could you cite your source for that please?? sounds fishy to me...

You'e right I made it up:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_listening_device

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:48 am

joel the ornery wrote:i guess it would be a problem if you are involved in illegal activities.

file under "law of unintended consequences"

Don't worry Joel I quess this could never happen to you:

Government fined $101 million over convictions
Judge finds FBI withheld evidence of 4 menâ€™s innocence in 1965 murder trial

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15012096/%20&GT1=10150

Remember people were created my God therefore all including LEOs are above corruption and totally impartial. Don't worry Joel I'm sure you'll get a fair trial.

AIIZ

joel the ornery · Post by **joel the ornery** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:10 am

Apollonaris Zeus wrote:
joel the ornery wrote:i guess it would be a problem if you are involved in illegal activities.

file under "law of unintended consequences"
Don't worry Joel I'm sure you'll get a fair trial.
AIIZ

won't be a trial... no laws have been broken.

btw... you did have a lucid moment in the "Will the Org respond to the 2.0 controversy" thread... i'll give you that.

chrispburn · Post by **chrispburn** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:15 am

I thought the guberment could watch us through our television sets since the 1970s. Now, they're putting higher def cameras inside all the flat screens. That's why we'll all have to get new TVs in the next couple of years. The HDTV thing is just something to lull us into complacency.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:17 pm

you think spying is bad now, just wait:

The Nano-Cams are coming and they transmit over your wireless connection.

Nano-technology will be everywhere including inside of you.

Free Will?

Who ever said you had Free Will!

Oh and here's one on your armed forces protecting you from you!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19980505/?GT1=10150

AIIZ