BLM citations

Mushroom · Post by **Mushroom** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:35 am

Wow I'm so glad I stumbled across this thread but a couple of questions...

How often are people caught with pot or other such things?

and Does anyone have a link to the Canadian version of these rights? I'm pretty sure they are quite similar but it would be quite interesting to know seeing as I get searched repeatedly

ohh I just remembered a good one... So I used to work in a mall and there had been a few robberies in that mall, one night on my way home I was stumbling on my bike (it had been a long day and I was tired so I wasn't paying attention to where I was going) the cops stopped me and started asking me questions like why are you in the mall parking lot this late blah blah blah and I kept telling them that I work there finnaly 10 min later they said ok well just be careful.

dj_john69 · Post by **dj_john69** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:13 pm

Mushroom wrote:Wow I'm so glad I stumbled across this thread but a couple of questions...

How often are people caught with pot or other such things?

ALOT !!! Im sure that someone is getting busted atleast once every 30 minutes on the Playa. Be safe and smart about doing illegal substances and you wont get caught.

Post by **AntiM** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:02 pm

Mushroom wrote:Wow I'm so glad I stumbled across this thread but a couple of questions...

How often are people caught with pot or other such things?

All it takes is once to fuck up your burn. And since you're not a US citizen, well I don't know how badly it would fuck up future travel.

ibdave · Post by **ibdave** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:04 pm

dj_john69 wrote:
Mushroom wrote: How often are people caught with pot or other such things?
ALOT !!! Im sure that someone is getting busted atleast once every 30 minutes on the Playa. Be safe and smart about doing illegal substances and you wont get caught.

Not wanting to work my small pea size brain on this fine Friday. (I don't want to do the math on the 30 min per bust)I would have to say that dj_john is not right about the every 30 minutes part. Yes drug bust do happen to both smart and dumb people on the Playa. But not at an alarming rate. The only way to not get busted is to not do anything that would get you busted.. It's that simple.....

dj_john69 · Post by **dj_john69** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:25 pm

ibdave wrote:
dj_john69 wrote:
Mushroom wrote: How often are people caught with pot or other such things?
ALOT !!! Im sure that someone is getting busted atleast once every 30 minutes on the Playa. Be safe and smart about doing illegal substances and you wont get caught.
Not wanting to work my small pea size brain on this fine Friday. (I don't want to do the math on the 30 min per bust)I would have to say that dj_john is not right about the every 30 minutes part. Yes drug bust do happen to both smart and dumb people on the Playa. But not at an alarming rate. The only way to not get busted is to not do anything that would get you busted.. It's that simple.....

Im not quite sure of where i can find accurate stats on drug related arrest or citations during BM but one bust every 30 minutes isnt out of line by any means.

Over 24 hours time, there are 48 thirty minute increments... times 7 days of the event = 336 citations or arrest for drugs or paraphernalia. This is over 7 days/nights with attendance of 35,000 people. 336 is not alot !! You actually think the DEA or whoever the fuck else would waste their valuable time for anything less than that ?? I dont. They are there to bust people and to COLLECT FINES for the county.

Gordman · Post by **Gordman** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:01 am

Well it looks like you are right, i absolutely agree. I am not a angry person but i get nervous too when i see these things happening.

www.drugrehab.net/

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:12 am

They are there to bust people and to COLLECT FINES for the county.

Actually, by far the largest beneficiary is the US gov't as most busts/citations are done by the BLM.

MozyBonz · Post by **MozyBonz** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:21 am

ibdave wrote:
dj_john69 wrote:
Mushroom wrote: How often are people caught with pot or other such things?
ALOT !!! Im sure that someone is getting busted atleast once every 30 minutes on the Playa. Be safe and smart about doing illegal substances and you wont get caught.
Not wanting to work my small pea size brain on this fine Friday. (I don't want to do the math on the 30 min per bust)I would have to say that dj_john is not right about the every 30 minutes part. Yes drug bust do happen to both smart and dumb people on the Playa. But not at an alarming rate. The only way to not get busted is to not do anything that would get you busted.. It's that simple.....

The only way to not get busted is to not do anything that would get you busted.. It is that simple.....

Wanderglobe · Post by **Wanderglobe** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:00 pm

bgirl wrote:Survival Guide,LAW ENFORCEMENT SECTION Public and Private; Your right to privacy.

Burning Man is a state of mind, and Black Rock City is an extremely interactive environment, ordered by gift giving. Many distinctions between what is private and what is public tend to soften and disappear. However, Black Rock City is also subject to county, state, and federal laws. If you violate these laws you may be subject to arrest or citation. If a law enforcement representative requests to enter your home - your tent or your RV - you do not have to admit them unless they have a warrant signed by a judge. However, with probable cause and in some emergency situations (as when a person is screaming for help inside, when the police are chasing someone, or when an officer witnesses illegal activity occurring within your home) they are allowed to enter and search your domicile without a warrant. Both sight and scent of illegal activity may be held by a court to represent probable cause.

<SNIP>

now....................................................................... alot of people seem to forget that America has been in a ,''War on Drugs," for a few years now,understatement of the moment.The police are going to try to bust your ass,it's their job and all,within legal boundaries or not.Has it occurred to anyone that some people(possibly police officers) might see BurningMan as one of the most subversive counter-culture events on U.S. soil? I am not saying,"Don't assert your self!" I am saying pick your location and timing carefully.

Thanks for the info Bgirl. Being from Canada as well, Vancouver, I was wondering about searches of my VW and this answered it. It's usually cool with me if people smoke in my bus but not this year. I can't chance a search based on "probable cause" due to smelling a joint and then have my bus impounded. That would suck.

Also, being from Canada and having a record can cause some serious problems the next time I try to roll through the U.S. which would also be a concern. I'll just play it safe.

MikeVDS · Post by **MikeVDS** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:10 pm

Keep in mind, while there are officials just out there to bust you, there are many of them consider it a privilege to get to work Burningman. Most don't want to cause trouble, or even search out drugs. Sure they'll write you up if you're stupid enough to be seen, but they are not the enemy, they are there to have as much fun as they can and to keep things safe and sane.

flipper · Post by **flipper** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:00 pm

[quote="dj_john69"] Im not quite sure of where i can find accurate stats on drug related arrest or citations during BM but one bust every 30 minutes isnt out of line by any means.

Over 24 hours time, there are 48 thirty minute increments... times 7 days of the event = 336 citations or arrest for drugs or paraphernalia. This is over 7 days/nights with attendance of 35,000 people. 336 is not alot !! You actually think the DEA or whoever the fuck else would waste their valuable time for anything less than that ?? I dont. They are there to bust people and to COLLECT FINES for the county.[/quote]

Here's the stats. It's not nearly that number. Here are the official counts reported by agencies to the Associated Press.

[url]http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stori ... 10395.html[/url]

"Senior law enforcement staff who have worked the Burning Man event for years agree that this was the most peaceful event yet, despite the record attendance.

BLM rangers issued a total of 155 citations, a decrease of 27, and made one arrest for a drug offense. Eighty-one of the citations were for drug-related offenses, down by 37 from 2005, 72 for trying to sneak into the event without paying and the rest for miscellaneous violations ranging from creating a nuisance to reckless driving.

The Pershing County Sheriff's office made seven arrests and issued one citation.

The total of citations and arrests this year was 164, down 24 or nearly 13 percent from last year."

In 2006, 81 BLM drug citations over eight days is about 10 a day, one every 144 minutes

In 2005, it was 118, or about 15 a day, or one every 96 minutes.

Even the Pershing Sheriff arrests or excluding Exodus Monday don't get under one an hour.

The flip side of it is that presuming no one got hit twice, only one out of every 483 BM attendees in 2006 a drug-citation from BLM. If all eight sheriff's actions were drug-related (and I doubt that) it that's one out of 439.

How many of the other 438 are clean? How many are discreet? and how many are just lucky or worked their way out of it? I don't know. Just don't end up as #439.

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