Barbed Wire

MikeVDS · Post by **MikeVDS** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:12 pm

We were going to set up a barbed wire fence around our private camping area, similar to what you see around fields. It will be well lit with solar lights at night. Having done some research I have not found much info on the stuff at BM. Only one person I've found so far, said they were setting up the same thing and a ranger came by and helped them take it down. What is your opinion on the idea? A lit fence seem much safer than tons of the other crap out there, like unshielded gears and belts, exposed rebar (I saw a kid get impaled on the stuff before), unlit guy wires, etc. From this point of view and having hoped those things 100's of times when I was younger and occasionally getting poked by some of the barbs, it seems quite safe, especially when compared to other crap. Was that ranger being overzealous or is it something that will likely be banned?

Archantael · Post by **Archantael** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:35 pm

I can see why someone would want to protect an area from incursion by putting up barbed wire. However I'm also thinking that from a liability standpoint this may not be the best idea. People are already wandering around in various states of consciousness and may not be paying attention. If they happen to run into your barbed wire....well let's just put it this way do you really want to give REMSA anything else to do besides treat dehydration cases?

Sensei · Post by **Sensei** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:42 pm

What kind of moron would put up a barbed wire fence out there with all those people walking around in the dark, hmmm?

Go electric. Looks way cool at night.

MikeVDS · Post by **MikeVDS** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:42 pm

I've ran into plenty of the stuff and you just get a few small wounds. The stuff is everywhere and I've never heard of any serious or even moderate injuries from the stuff. We not talking razor wire or even coils of the barbed wire. Just a couple strands between poles.

MozyBonz · Post by **MozyBonz** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:05 pm

check with Z i think he has some place for Plastic Fake Barbed Wire.

some website wrote:20 foot garland that gives you the look of rusted barbed wire. Safe plastic. Offered in wrapped fashion on a header card.

EB · Post by EB » Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:14 pm

If it's just the visual deterrant you want, they make phony concertina wire that looks pretty much like the real thing. Otherwise, yeah, the liability on your end if somebody walked into it and raked their eyes out would be pretty hefty

Not to mention the "if-somebody-walked-into-it-and-raked-their-eyes-out" part.

dragonfly Jafe · Post by **dragonfly Jafe** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:17 pm

...on the other hand, electric barb wire would look pretty cool at night...

hang some glow sticks from it at intervals to act as lures

film

repeat

set yourself up with the discovery channel with a show of your own

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:52 pm

As much as I love barbed-wire I can see some cry-babies causing a ruckus over it. I seem to remember an old Italian saying.. "No Body=No Case". Fuel for the car-b-que? Since the theme is GREEN lets make our own version of Soylent green to feed the masses.

Sensei · Post by **Sensei** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:57 pm

Now that I think about it, an electric fence doesn't sound so good. The juice to run it has got to come from somewhere, right? Not very green, IMHO.

What about coils of razor wire backed up by claymores? You could put a huge soundcamp in the middle to act as bait.

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:57 pm

lawyer said(out of context) barbed wire has been around so long that is common knewlage.. any prudent person would/should know the dangers

after asking the lawyer, i put in four strands 16 inches apart.. then a woven vertical strand ever 16 inches.. no more fucking trouble..

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:15 pm

the plastic stuff really does look great and it comes in new or rusty versions but I don't know were Apokiliptika got theres

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:06 pm

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oh the fire dept asked me to keep my barbed wire fence no higher than 5 feet..

you could run an electric fence off a dry cell for a week.. the ground is so dry you would not get more than a tickle.. or people with sandles would'nt even notice..

MikeVDS · Post by **MikeVDS** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:53 am

As much as I love barbed-wire I can see some cry-babies causing a ruckus over it.

In my mind that is most of the point of doing it in the first place. I see a button and I must push it.

spectabillis · Post by **spectabillis** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:57 am

why not just hide in the dark and club em with a pipe?

dragonfly Jafe · Post by **dragonfly Jafe** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:08 am

unjonharley wrote:\/
oh the fire dept asked me to keep my barbed wire fence no higher than 5 feet..

you could run an electric fence off a dry cell for a week.. the ground is so dry you would not get more than a tickle.. or people with sandles would'nt even notice..

...ahhh, but that's what the grey-water is for.

(and you can't film and club at the same time, now can ya Spec?)

Rusted Iron · Post by **Rusted Iron** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:06 pm

When I was a kid, I too, got a lot of little barbed wire nicks. I wouldn't have though that it could do much damage, but having worked in emergency and occupational medicine for a lot of years, I now know different.

The image of one young laborer sticks in my mind: His chest was torn to shreds by the stuff.

wedeliver · Post by **wedeliver** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:51 pm

barbed wire is for pussies, REAL BURNERS USE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concertina_wire

(catch you some drunks with that stuff you will)

Isotopia · Post by **Isotopia** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:28 pm

I'm not sure if this is a joke question or if it's being asked in earnest.

FWI, several years ago a camp decided to set barbed wire around a portion of their camp's perimeter.

They were asked by Rangers to take it down. The hazards associated with putting the stuff up didn't have to be explained to anyone involved. The members of the camp in question kindly too it down.

Expect the same kind of civil, Rangerly request to remove your barbed wire should you decided to follow through with this idea.

EspressoDude · Post by **EspressoDude** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:05 pm

10 foot high concrete block walls work both for security and sound blockage.

Gizmo · Post by **Gizmo** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:05 pm

I heard that Chupacabra Policia surounded their camp at Flipside
with an electric fence one year. Maybe someone who was there
could tell us about it.

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:41 pm

I heard that Chupacabra Policia surounded their camp at Flipside

I believe that was the same year they had the hippie cages (2003?) where they trapped 'em and hoisted them up to the top of the scaffolding and left them there for a few hours.

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:48 pm

Badger wrote:
I heard that Chupacabra Policia surounded their camp at Flipside
I believe that was the same year they had the hippie cages (2003?) where they trapped 'em and hoisted them up to the top of the scaffolding and left them there for a few hours.

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oh boy hippie get n.. almost as good as cow tip n

MikeVDS · Post by **MikeVDS** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:49 pm

Too many good ideas, too little time.

skeetsh00ter · Post by **skeetsh00ter** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:20 pm

i vote for an electric fence. I for one would be pissed if i fell into barbed wire and gashed myself open (a little cut wouldnt bother me); on the other hand though, if i fell over an electric fence [after the initial shock of it...no pun intended] i would get up and laugh my ass off at how ridiculous i must have looked/sounded trying to get off of it as fast as i could.

haha, it makes me laugh just thinking about it.

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:18 pm

"But what about the children?"

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:20 pm

Badger wrote:"But what about the children?"

I think they may wind up having hair like Dr Pyro after hitting an electric fence.

RingO'Fire · Post by **RingO'Fire** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:51 am

spectabillis wrote:why not just hide in the dark and club em with a pipe?

This is my favorite idea so far.

Of course, something like this old-school method might work too.

Sensei · Post by **Sensei** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:56 pm

skeetsh00ter wrote:i vote for an electric fence. I for one would be pissed if i fell into barbed wire and gashed myself open (a little cut wouldnt bother me); on the other hand though, if i fell over an electric fence [after the initial shock of it...no pun intended] i would get up and laugh my ass off at how ridiculous i must have looked/sounded trying to get off of it as fast as i could.

haha, it makes me laugh just thinking about it.

Speaking of pissed, have you ever seen someone pee on an electric fence?

Can you say THEME CAMP? I wonder if it's too late to get placed right next door to Badger's 'Dance Dance Defibrulator' project? We could call it 'Electrocution Village' or something like that. It'd be cute.

Teo del Fuego · Post by **Teo del Fuego** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:31 pm

Sensei wrote:Speaking of pissed, have you ever seen someone pee on an electric fence?

Why, yes I have! Maybe Funnel Camp could have some funnels directed toward a short stretch of electric fence. That would be a hoot and a half!

MozyBonz · Post by **MozyBonz** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:36 pm

Sensei wrote:
skeetsh00ter wrote:i vote for an electric fence. I for one would be pissed if i fell into barbed wire and gashed myself open (a little cut wouldnt bother me); on the other hand though, if i fell over an electric fence [after the initial shock of it...no pun intended] i would get up and laugh my ass off at how ridiculous i must have looked/sounded trying to get off of it as fast as i could.

haha, it makes me laugh just thinking about it.
Speaking of pissed, have you ever seen someone pee on an electric fence?

Can you say THEME CAMP? I wonder if it's too late to get placed right next door to Badger's 'Dance Dance Defibrulator' project? We could call it 'Electrocution Village' or something like that. It'd be cute.

When nature's callin'
Don't be stallin'
Use your common sense
Before you let it flow
Find a place to go
Just don't whiz on the electric fence

If you're gonna explode
You can use the commode
Of igloos, cave dwellings or tents
No need to explain when you gotta drain
Just don't whiz on the electric fence

You can swizzle on the sofa
Piddle in the air
Tinkle in the toilet
That's why it is there

You can let it rain
In the breakfast lane
While waving at ladies and gents
Just don't whiz on...
Don't whiz on
Don't whiz on the electric fence.

No! No! No! No! No!