[quote="Apollonaris Zeus"]I believe that you must define corruption.
Orbital Burn what does it matter who I think planted the bomb?
Was it the planted FBI agent that instigated using bombs from the first place? Or was it one of the local LEO's or someone that wasn't a LEO that attended a bomb clinic? Could that person be associated with the logging industry?????
What is known that Judi and her associates weren't into that form of expression other then an offhand sarcastic remark and no bomb making matterials were ever found in the possession of the enviromentalists!!!!!!
Failure on the FBI was that they never investigated anyone else that could have a motive for planting a bomb under their seat!!!
That was a complete fuck up on investigative theory. Never focus on one suspect and never focus on what appears to be the obvious.
ON another note: write your congressmen to make it manditory that all vehicle advertising include MPG ratings!!!!!
AIIZ
OrbitaL Burn: who are you. Are you PIG or are you corrupt? You who has posted only twice![/quote]
and my third is my last. I am relative of logging industry person named in your article. I was just kind of curious about your opinion of it.
Write your congressman, ask for a rewrite of the Patriot Act
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Apollonaris Zeus
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Apollonaris Zeus
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How much do you trust law enforcement?
I believe that law enforcement is good and beyond corruption
0%
I believe that law enforcement is good but has some corrupted personel
44%
I believe that law enforcement is good and has no corrupted elements such as Opus Dei or other religious, nazi or terrorist groups working within
0% I believe that law enforcement has corrupted elements such as Opus Dei or other religious, nazi or terrorist groups working within
31%
Forget about it all law enforcement is corrupt by its nature!
24%
This poll does say alot about people's perception of law enforcement and that its time for mandatory Poly-Graph testing!!!!!
Testing will regain the peoples trust and expose the terrorists and abusers of power.
AIIZ
I believe that law enforcement is good and beyond corruption
0%
I believe that law enforcement is good but has some corrupted personel
44%
I believe that law enforcement is good and has no corrupted elements such as Opus Dei or other religious, nazi or terrorist groups working within
0% I believe that law enforcement has corrupted elements such as Opus Dei or other religious, nazi or terrorist groups working within
31%
Forget about it all law enforcement is corrupt by its nature!
24%
This poll does say alot about people's perception of law enforcement and that its time for mandatory Poly-Graph testing!!!!!
Testing will regain the peoples trust and expose the terrorists and abusers of power.
AIIZ
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Apollonaris Zeus
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We dont neeed to seek to amend the Patriot Act we need to be working to its flat out ABOLISHMENT. But to pin all of the current abuses of power by those currently in the executive branch misses a much wider problem and corruption within our goverment, as far back as the 50 and 60s the communist scare left liberals, socialists and communists open to pretty random and and invasive investigations for something as simple as checking out a copy of the communist manifesto from a public library. The war on drugs starting in early 80s has become an instutionalized attack on the poor and led to increased corruption not only in law enforcement but at almost every level of goverment esp within the judicial branch. Corporate welfare and the economic war on the middle class has been a major problem for over the last half century and shows no sign of becoming even a small factor in public opinion or voting politics. The Patriot Act is not the cause for the current state of our demcoracy it is only the latest and most severe symptom of the growing cancer of plutocracy and the corporate elite infecting the halls of power from local goverment up to the presidency and congress.
Peace, Love, and Twazed
Peace, Love, and Twazed
Fly Fat ASS!!! FLY!!!!!
He smoked a phat cronic blunt.
He smoked a phat cronic blunt.
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Apollonaris Zeus
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George got kicked in his bush today:
Legal Affairs
Appeals Court Strikes at 'Enemy Combatant' Policy
by Ari Shapiro
All Things Considered, June 11, 2007 · A federal appeals court says President Bush does not have the constitutional authority to imprison a U.S. resident indefinitely and without charge, as in the case of Ali al-Marri. Al-Marri is a citizen of Qatar who was attending graduate school in Illinois when he was arrested in 2001.
Court: U.S. Terror Suspects Have Legal Rights
A U.S. resident cannot be detained indefinitely without charge under the Military Commissions Act, a divided federal appeals court ruled Monday in a decision that could be a blow to the Bush administration's strategy for fighting the war on terror.
In the 2-1 decision, the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel found that the federal Military Commissions Act doesn't strip Ali al-Marri, whom authorities suspect of being an al-Qaida operative, of his constitutional right as a legal U.S. resident to challenge his accusers in court.
"To sanction such presidential authority to order the military to seize and indefinitely detain civilians, even if the president calls them 'enemy combatants,' would have disastrous consequences for the constitution — and the country," the court panel said.
Al-Marri has been held in solitary confinement in the Navy brig in Charleston, S.C., since June 2003. The Qatar native has been detained since his December 2001 arrest at his home in Peoria, Ill. He had moved there with his wife and five children a day before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to study for a master's degree at Bradley University.
"A person who commits a crime should be punished, but when a civilian protected by the due process clause commits a crime, he is subject to charge, trial and punishment in a civilian court, not to seizure and confinement by military authorities," the court said.
The court ruled that the government must allow al-Marri, currently the only U.S. resident held as an enemy combatant within the U.S., to be released from military detention.
Jose Padilla, another U.S. citizen, was held as an enemy combatant in a Navy brig for 3.5 years before he was added to an existing case in Miami in November 2005.
Al-Marri's lawyers argued that the Military Commissions Act, passed last fall to establish military trials after a U.S. Supreme Court ruling, doesn't repeal the writ of habeas corpus – a defendant's traditional right to challenge detention.
From NPR reports and The Associated Press
Fuck the bush today be happy!
AIIZ
Legal Affairs
Appeals Court Strikes at 'Enemy Combatant' Policy
by Ari Shapiro
All Things Considered, June 11, 2007 · A federal appeals court says President Bush does not have the constitutional authority to imprison a U.S. resident indefinitely and without charge, as in the case of Ali al-Marri. Al-Marri is a citizen of Qatar who was attending graduate school in Illinois when he was arrested in 2001.
Court: U.S. Terror Suspects Have Legal Rights
A U.S. resident cannot be detained indefinitely without charge under the Military Commissions Act, a divided federal appeals court ruled Monday in a decision that could be a blow to the Bush administration's strategy for fighting the war on terror.
In the 2-1 decision, the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel found that the federal Military Commissions Act doesn't strip Ali al-Marri, whom authorities suspect of being an al-Qaida operative, of his constitutional right as a legal U.S. resident to challenge his accusers in court.
"To sanction such presidential authority to order the military to seize and indefinitely detain civilians, even if the president calls them 'enemy combatants,' would have disastrous consequences for the constitution — and the country," the court panel said.
Al-Marri has been held in solitary confinement in the Navy brig in Charleston, S.C., since June 2003. The Qatar native has been detained since his December 2001 arrest at his home in Peoria, Ill. He had moved there with his wife and five children a day before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to study for a master's degree at Bradley University.
"A person who commits a crime should be punished, but when a civilian protected by the due process clause commits a crime, he is subject to charge, trial and punishment in a civilian court, not to seizure and confinement by military authorities," the court said.
The court ruled that the government must allow al-Marri, currently the only U.S. resident held as an enemy combatant within the U.S., to be released from military detention.
Jose Padilla, another U.S. citizen, was held as an enemy combatant in a Navy brig for 3.5 years before he was added to an existing case in Miami in November 2005.
Al-Marri's lawyers argued that the Military Commissions Act, passed last fall to establish military trials after a U.S. Supreme Court ruling, doesn't repeal the writ of habeas corpus – a defendant's traditional right to challenge detention.
From NPR reports and The Associated Press
Fuck the bush today be happy!
AIIZ
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Lassen Forge
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Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but...
I was just reading in Yahoo news about how the 6th circuit curt of appeals has dismissed the ACLU suit against surveillance and wiretapping. It was about the middle of the list of current stories..
Then I got a warning "IE has had an internal error and must shut down, would you like to save a dump file, etc...etc."
So it did, bang. Comes back up.
Click on Yahoo. Look at the stories...
Guess which news story was now missing from the list? the ones around it are still there...
Coincidence? Um Hmmm... I can't make up propoganda this good.
Have a scared end of days...
I was just reading in Yahoo news about how the 6th circuit curt of appeals has dismissed the ACLU suit against surveillance and wiretapping. It was about the middle of the list of current stories..
Then I got a warning "IE has had an internal error and must shut down, would you like to save a dump file, etc...etc."
So it did, bang. Comes back up.
Click on Yahoo. Look at the stories...
Guess which news story was now missing from the list? the ones around it are still there...
Coincidence? Um Hmmm... I can't make up propoganda this good.
Have a scared end of days...
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LeChatNoir
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I heard it at the top-o-the-hour news on the local college radio station.Bay Bridge Sue wrote:Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but...
I was just reading in Yahoo news about how the 6th circuit curt of appeals has dismissed the ACLU suit against surveillance and wiretapping. It was about the middle of the list of current stories..
Then I got a warning "IE has had an internal error and must shut down, would you like to save a dump file, etc...etc."
So it did, bang. Comes back up.
Click on Yahoo. Look at the stories...
Guess which news story was now missing from the list? the ones around it are still there...
Coincidence? Um Hmmm... I can't make up propoganda this good.
Have a scared end of days...
The New and Improved Black Cat... now with 25% more blather
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Apollonaris Zeus
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I'm sure it was A Gonzo's thugs living in your chip which is-
Another reason why a rewrite of the patriot act is needed and Gestapo Gonzales Fired!:
Gonzales was told of FBI violations
After getting report, attorney general said he knew of no wrongdoing
By John Solomon
Updated: 7:08 a.m. ET July 10, 2007
As he sought to renew the USA Patriot Act two years ago, Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales assured lawmakers that the FBI had not abused its potent new terrorism-fighting powers. "There has not been one verified case of civil liberties abuse," Gonzales told senators on April 27, 2005.
Six days earlier, the FBI sent Gonzales a copy of a report that said its agents had obtained personal information that they were not entitled to have. It was one of at least half a dozen reports of legal or procedural violations that Gonzales received in the three months before he made his statement to the Senate intelligence committee, according to internal FBI documents released under the Freedom of Information Act.
The acts recounted in the FBI reports included unauthorized surveillance, an illegal property search and a case in which an Internet firm improperly turned over a compact disc with data that the FBI was not entitled to collect, the documents show. Gonzales was copied on each report that said administrative rules or laws protecting civil liberties and privacy had been violated
The reports also alerted Gonzales in 2005 to problems with the FBI's use of an anti-terrorism tool known as national security letters (NSLs), well before the Justice Department's inspector general brought widespread abuse of the letters in 2004 and 2005 to light in a stinging report this past March.
‘In the context’ of inspector general reports
Justice officials said they could not immediately determine whether Gonzales read any of the FBI reports in 2005 and 2006 because the officials who processed them were not available yesterday. But department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said that when Gonzales testified, he was speaking "in the context" of reports by the department's inspector general before this year that found no misconduct or specific civil liberties abuses related to the Patriot Act.
"The statements from the attorney general are consistent with statements from other officials at the FBI and the department," Roehrkasse said. He added that many of the violations the FBI disclosed were not legal violations and instead involved procedural safeguards or even typographical errors.
Each of the violations cited in the reports copied to Gonzales was serious enough to require notification of the President's Intelligence Oversight Board, which helps police the government's surveillance activities. The format of each memo was similar, and none minced words.
"This enclosure sets forth details of investigative activity which the FBI has determined was conducted contrary to the attorney general's guidelines for FBI National Security Investigations and Foreign Intelligence Collection and/or laws, executive orders and presidential directives," said the April 21, 2005, letter to the Intelligence Oversight Board.
The oversight board, staffed with intelligence experts from inside and outside government, was established to report to the attorney general and president about civil liberties abuses or intelligence lapses. But Roehrkasse said the fact that a violation is reported to the board "does not mean that a USA Patriot violation exists or that an individual's civil liberties have been abused."
Shit this Gonzales guy is one sneaky muther Phuker just like his boss, Lil’Bush. Do you think that you would ever find out if you were under survailance? No way! Under bush FOIA's are history and so is good Ol'America
AZ
Another reason why a rewrite of the patriot act is needed and Gestapo Gonzales Fired!:
Gonzales was told of FBI violations
After getting report, attorney general said he knew of no wrongdoing
By John Solomon
Updated: 7:08 a.m. ET July 10, 2007
As he sought to renew the USA Patriot Act two years ago, Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales assured lawmakers that the FBI had not abused its potent new terrorism-fighting powers. "There has not been one verified case of civil liberties abuse," Gonzales told senators on April 27, 2005.
Six days earlier, the FBI sent Gonzales a copy of a report that said its agents had obtained personal information that they were not entitled to have. It was one of at least half a dozen reports of legal or procedural violations that Gonzales received in the three months before he made his statement to the Senate intelligence committee, according to internal FBI documents released under the Freedom of Information Act.
The acts recounted in the FBI reports included unauthorized surveillance, an illegal property search and a case in which an Internet firm improperly turned over a compact disc with data that the FBI was not entitled to collect, the documents show. Gonzales was copied on each report that said administrative rules or laws protecting civil liberties and privacy had been violated
The reports also alerted Gonzales in 2005 to problems with the FBI's use of an anti-terrorism tool known as national security letters (NSLs), well before the Justice Department's inspector general brought widespread abuse of the letters in 2004 and 2005 to light in a stinging report this past March.
‘In the context’ of inspector general reports
Justice officials said they could not immediately determine whether Gonzales read any of the FBI reports in 2005 and 2006 because the officials who processed them were not available yesterday. But department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said that when Gonzales testified, he was speaking "in the context" of reports by the department's inspector general before this year that found no misconduct or specific civil liberties abuses related to the Patriot Act.
"The statements from the attorney general are consistent with statements from other officials at the FBI and the department," Roehrkasse said. He added that many of the violations the FBI disclosed were not legal violations and instead involved procedural safeguards or even typographical errors.
Each of the violations cited in the reports copied to Gonzales was serious enough to require notification of the President's Intelligence Oversight Board, which helps police the government's surveillance activities. The format of each memo was similar, and none minced words.
"This enclosure sets forth details of investigative activity which the FBI has determined was conducted contrary to the attorney general's guidelines for FBI National Security Investigations and Foreign Intelligence Collection and/or laws, executive orders and presidential directives," said the April 21, 2005, letter to the Intelligence Oversight Board.
The oversight board, staffed with intelligence experts from inside and outside government, was established to report to the attorney general and president about civil liberties abuses or intelligence lapses. But Roehrkasse said the fact that a violation is reported to the board "does not mean that a USA Patriot violation exists or that an individual's civil liberties have been abused."
Shit this Gonzales guy is one sneaky muther Phuker just like his boss, Lil’Bush. Do you think that you would ever find out if you were under survailance? No way! Under bush FOIA's are history and so is good Ol'America
AZ
First, try to get a good nights rest. Eat a regular meal so you are not hungry. Answer honestly all the questions asked you in the pre-polygraph interview so the polygraph examiner can reword the questions so you can answer them "yes" or "no." Do not try to control your breathing, just try to breath normally. Do not attempt to use any of the idiotic countermeasures people will tell you to try. They don't work and will usually get you automatically disqualified, and labled as deceptive. Polygraph examiners understand nervousness. I've yet to poygraph someone who was not nervous. I would be concerned if there wasn't some sort of anxiety. Fortunately, polygraphs do not mistake nervousness as deception. Just do what the polygraph examiner says and you will be fine. Try not to obsess about it. I would wish you good luck, but luck doesn't play as much a part as just plain 'ol being honest.