HELLO ALL MY 2007 BURNERS - READ ME I LOVE YOU

Lady Pixie · Post by **Lady Pixie** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:36 pm

I have participated in Burning man for 3 years... i just had to write in about the man being burned early by that guy - he freaking smiling in his mug shot..wow..i wish he had respect and consideration for the rest of the community .. that is fully the major rule .. he probably didn't even bring any offering to burn .. anyway larry nimmer the man of girlman media should be arriving today..he went by himself..he such a wonderful man... if you happen to run into him .. he is about 52 year old jewish guy with a camera tell him lady pixie loves him... (AKA CHRISSY STRASSBURG) THE GIRL OF GIRLMAN MEDIA

BitterDan · Post by **BitterDan** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:14 pm

Frankly I don't think burning the man on Monday was such a horrible offense. The man is just a freakin symbol and all it means when it burns on Saturday is that it's time to pack your shit and go home.

Personally I think what Paul did was fucking cool and was a shining example of what "Radical Self-Expression" is supposed to be. They even shooed people out of the immediate area before igniting it so that no one would get hurt. I don't think he did it to spite the community; I think he did it to wake us the fuck up and realize that a wooden man with lights on top of a vendor zoo is not what holds this event together.

To me, the man is just a tiny part of what Burning Man is. It's more about the people you meet and the time you have DURING the week. Shit, if there were no man at all, I would still be there tripping my ass off all week.

FREE PAUL ADDIS! :D

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Lady Pixie · Post by **Lady Pixie** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:37 pm

Thanks for the reply - I heard a lot of the same feedback from many other burners from what Larry videotaped at the event..it makes sense..I hope that everyone can let go and accept like you have...I am still a little greedy.

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:05 am

BitterDan wrote:Frankly I don't think burning the man on Monday was such a horrible offense. The man is just a freakin symbol and all it means when it burns on Saturday is that it's time to pack your shit and go home.

Personally I think what Paul did was fucking cool and was a shining example of what "Radical Self-Expression" is supposed to be.
FREE PAUL ADDIS!

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Really now! What about the poor folks who were working underneath? Their lives were put on the line without their consent. What Paul did was arson, reckless endangerment, and possibly more. Maybe since some of you folks think it was soo friggin cool and it counts as radical self expression someone should radically self express and set your fucking tent on fire next year.

Yeah, real fucking cool... setting the thing on fire while people are busy working underneath. Stop trying to lie for Paul by claiming that warnings were issued and that folks had gotten out of the way. Nobody saw the arsonist coming and none of the workers were warned that their lives were at risk by that lunatic.

BitterDan · Post by **BitterDan** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:36 am

Want a WAAA-mburger?

BitterDan · Post by **BitterDan** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:14 pm

just playa-ing :wink:

You are right in that he put some people in danger (though not much more than any of 100 art projects at burning man). The fact remains that NO ONE got hurt.

Nice comparison of burning my tent vs burning the man who was going to be burned anyway. Want to compare apples and horseshit as well?

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:06 pm

BitterDan wrote:just playa-ing

You are right in that he put some people in danger (though not much more than any of 100 art projects at burning man). The fact remains that NO ONE got hurt.

Nice comparison of burning my tent vs burning the man who was going to be burned anyway. Want to compare apples and horseshit as well?

Not really.. arson is arson. Setting fire where people are sleeping whether under the man or under a tent is basically the same. I see you only have a couple posts. Good luck making friends on here supporting arsonists that put other peoples lives on the line.

And the danger he put folks in was far greater than any participatory art project. The big difference between the projects and his arson is consent. The folks sleeping and working were not given a choice.

You are also incorrect about nobody getting hurt.

Just out of curiosity.. Were you even at Burningman witnessing the arson and attempted murder/reckless endangerment of others?

Teo del Fuego · Post by **Teo del Fuego** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:16 pm

Toolmaker wrote: I see you only have a couple posts.

Like that means anything other than a boring day-job and an obsessive compulsive disorder.

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:45 pm

Teo del Fuego wrote:
Toolmaker wrote: I see you only have a couple posts.
Like that means anything other than a boring day-job and an obsessive compulsive disorder.

Thanks for chiming in. I saw in another thread that you were also glad about the arson and attempted murder of volunteers. I really do hope that all those folks that think the arsonist was cool and did the right thing get whats coming to them so they realize how bad arson is.

I still say its kinda odd how all these newbies are showing up with a few posts and they have all these great opinions about how great arsonists are when they put other peoples lives on the line without their consent.

Karma is a bitch and thats my final answer. Maybe you will get to experience arson and attempted murder first hand sometime since you think its so fucking cool and Paul is your hero because you didn't like tha pavilion.

BitterDan · Post by **BitterDan** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:06 am

You are certainly an angry fucker aren't you. Get over it.

Oh and you claim that people were hurt when the man burned? Can you prove that because I haven't heard that on any of the news reports I read.

I see you only have a couple posts. Good luck making friends on here supporting arsonists that put other peoples lives on the line.

Oh I get it. My post count somehow invalidates my opinion. You must feel like a big strong man with gigantic balls because of your whole 700+ posts. Big fucking deal.

And for your information, I made plenty of friends at burning man this year. You know, people who can accept another's opinion without being a dick about it?

Were you even at Burningman witnessing the arson and attempted murder/reckless endangerment of others?

Absolutely. Were you?

BitterDan · Post by **BitterDan** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:15 am

According to Jamie Thompson, a spokesman for the federal Bureau of Land Management, which oversees the land on which the annual event is held, the fire broke out at 2:58 a.m. Tuesday. Eyewitnesses said flames began about 10 feet up the wooden man's left leg. Thompson said the huge platform beneath the statue was undamaged. No injuries were reported.

Teo del Fuego · Post by **Teo del Fuego** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:48 pm

Toolmaker wrote: Thanks for chiming in. I saw in another thread that you were also glad about the arson and attempted murder of volunteers.

Sleep-deprivation is a bitch to get over isn't it? I assume its what you have when declaring I applaud arson and allegedly "placing people's lives at risk." What I actually posted stated this:

"I know what Addis did was wrong and I cannot condone arson just because I dont like the thing being burned...but still, I didnt shed a single tear."

If that's a ringing endforsement of arson and endangerment, then, well, we're linguistically riding different bikes.

For me Burning Man is very little Larry Harvey and his Big Man. I'm more into John Law and Michael Michael's Cacaphony aspect of the event. Personally, The Man is just a minor focal point in the whole scheme of things.

I hope you get some sleep. Im feeling it too.

Teo del Fuego · Post by **Teo del Fuego** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:56 pm

and another thing toolmaker, last time I checked Larry Harvey's post-count was exactly "1." Call him a newbie will ya?

mojo · Post by **mojo** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:26 pm

The saddest part of the arson was that the man, as usual, had some very personal things packed in him to be burned with him. Those things may include a few of the ashes of recently departed loyal volunteers, special messages and love notes. So it really does make a difference if that wet, charred "old" man goes on some trash heap somewhere instead of being burned to ash as planned.

Somewhere here there is a disconnect regarding priorities. This is, when all is said and done, an art festival. If I needed to commit arson (and do the resulting prison time) to make a statement, it would damn well not be a pissing match about how an art festival conducts its business. This idiot took his self-inflated point of view and endangered lives with it.

I spend a major part of every workday in the defense of those who may have run afoul of the boundaries of the law. I would not choose to defend this one.

BitterDan · Post by **BitterDan** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:59 pm

Yeah mojo I can totally see your point about the personal things in the man. I hadn't thought of that and it is a shame that those things are sitting in a trash heap somewhere.

And yes, it was dangerous but what at burning man is safe? We had to tell soooo many people to stand back from the flaming statues at Crude Awakenings lest they be burnt to a crisp. Shit, there were people actually trying to touch the tesla coils!!

My "Free Paul Addis" line was more a joke and I do agree that he needs to do his time for what he did. I do not think that he should be burned at the stake for burning the man down though. Frankly I thought it was quite nice to see the man burn down when you know only a small percentage of the population is actually there to witness it. I am glad I got to see it honestly. So many people just show up on Friday and leave right after the burn that it's just become a joke.

People have been trying to plan an early burn for years and this guy just went ahead and did it. Could he have done it better and more safely, sure. All I was trying to say is the man is NOT what makes this festival happen every year and the idea of burning him down early fascinated me.

mojo · Post by **mojo** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:29 pm

Yep - I like the anarchistic overtones - but it falls so short of anarchy - he is not opposing an opressive government, torture, starvation, etc.... this is not the tanks in Tiennamen (sp) square.

My point is really that he is enough of a nut to endanger lives and go to prison for WHAT? So he can try to tell someone else what to do with their business? There are other businesses with sweatshops exploiting children but this is the issue he chooses to give a bunch of years of his life in protest of?

Clearly, there is a screw loose and our compassion is no doubt needed for this poor man.

BitterDan · Post by **BitterDan** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:38 pm

My point is really that he is enough of a nut to endanger lives and go to prison for WHAT? So he can try to tell someone else what to do with their business? There are other businesses with sweatshops exploiting children but this is the issue he chooses to give a bunch of years of his life in protest of?

I bet he thought he would get away with it.

MikeVDS · Post by **MikeVDS** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:19 pm

Nice comparison of burning my tent vs burning the man who was going to be burned anyway.

The man was going to be burned anyway, but can you say that about the art and other things placed below the man? You're going to die anyway so I might as well shoot you? The guy destroyed expensive private property and should go to jail and be sued for probably hundreds of thousands of dollars for the damages he caused.

It happened and it was cool. It is a treat to have something unexpected happen on a grand scale where no one gets hurt. It was wrong and the guy had no right to do it, but it makes an interesting and relatively harmless mark in my memories. I'm sure the guys who had to rebuild it are already looking back on the experience with some fond memories. If the guy ends up serving some time and paying for the damages all will be properly aligned in my mental universe.

robbidobbs · Post by **robbidobbs** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:39 pm

Dude! Everyone was out from under the shade super-structure to look at the fucking lunar eclypse, ferfuckssakes. Nobody got hurt because they were out in the open, looking at the sky, standing absolutely still. The twit's mistake was sprinting across open playa from the scene of the crime. He should have ran directly to a Ranger and pointed him in the opposite direction.

I think his art project was truly commendable, and fuck it, drive on. The real story was not about the twit, but about how DPW pulled the LLC's ass out of the fire. Damn! We did it right this time.

Names I've heard the 2nd Man's being called this year:
Contingency Plan Man
Plan B Man
Resurrection/Phoenix Man
Pull the LLC's Ass Out of the Fire Man
and my personal favorite (from Dave Best)
Green Man My Ass Man

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