Mars- The forbidden Planet!

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 2:59 pm

There hasn't been a successful mission to Mars is years. Is someone or something trying to tell us something, Like Keep the Fuck Away, Puny Humans!

Is there a devastated civilization from the distant past.

Though we haven't received the message: All the world is yours to explore! Do not attemp to land on Mars!

Should we continue and tempt our faith!

A II Z

aforceforgood · Post by **aforceforgood** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 4:28 pm

Yes, please keep away, it's my home.

I really don't want or desire your michael jackson interviews, screeching mattress salesmen, tax laws, beehive hairdoes, religious fanatics, and crappy rap music blaring as you drive by my house.

GEDOFFAMYLAWNUGODDAMNKIDS!!

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 9:18 pm

I really don't want or desire your michael jackson interviews, screeching mattress salesmen, tax laws, beehive hairdoes, religious fanatics, and crappy rap music blaring as you drive by my house.

Too late http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/music.html

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 5:14 pm

for it."

excerpt from AFORCEFORGOOD's web link on "How to be an activist".

Does a Hand Job count?

A II Z

aforceforgood · Post by **aforceforgood** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 5:20 pm

I guess, but I fail to see why anyone would pay for just a hand job, when you can do the job better yourself.

stuart · Post by **stuart** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 11:57 am

it's all about gettin the strange.

I swear though, in my years of jerkin off I have never done it better than my high school girlfriend.

diane o'thirst · Post by **diane o'thirst** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 5:24 pm

At the risk of calling you Manacheistic (sp?) and sounding like an old-school liberal, I think you limited the poll choices overmuch.

I don't think it's a subtle message. It's a botch — a rather large and costly one, but then again the damn roll was Dexterity + Technology, difficulty 10. Come on, people, they're sending a piece of machinery to a place none of us has ever been to and for which we therefore have no experiential frame of reference. Cold weather, low gravity and thin air training aside, Mars is largely an unknown quantity. Naturally you're going to run into unforeseens like the probe falling down a crater.

Us, destroy a planet? Don't flatter yourself! The planet's more likely to destroy us, simply because of the "screw-up" factor in even the most highly-trained and mentally-present humans. Shit happens, technology fails, computers are only as good as their programmers, SNAFU, the Playa Flake Factor, call it what you will, mistakes will be made and the likelihood of making mistakes increases exponentially when you're in experiment phase, which is where we're standing in regards to a Mars colony.

aforceforgood · Post by **aforceforgood** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 6:36 pm

diane o'thirst wrote:I don't think it's a subtle message. It's a botch — a rather large and costly one, but then again the damn roll was Dexterity + Technology, difficulty 10. Come on, people, they're sending a piece of machinery to a place none of us has ever been to and for which we therefore have no experiential frame of reference.

Can't argue with that, but the percentage failure rate is much higher for mars than for any other space endeavors. That's somewhat suspicious, and I don't know of any logically-minded people who would simply ignore that data.

I don't however, automatically assume the little green men shot it down when there are more likely explanations, such as our own government witholding info from us. They have a long and unwavering tradition of this.

I can't absolutely say that's the cause either, the whole thing goes into the open case file in my brain with the rating of; "there's a lot of smoke there if there's no fire."

I also happen to think the missing 18 minutes of video as our probe flew by triton is highly suspicious.

For one interesting and possible explanation of our universe and why these things happen this way, try "Manifold Space" by Stephen Baxter. It has an eerie ring of truth to it, even though it's hard science fiction....

diane o'thirst · Post by **diane o'thirst** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 7:16 pm

aforceforgood wrote:Can't argue with that, but the percentage failure rate is much higher for mars than for any other space endeavors. That's somewhat suspicious, and I don't know of any logical-minded people who would simply ignore that data.

Because we haven't done this before. It's a big experiment in the trial-and-error phase. What we're doing is the post-modern equivalent of DaVinci trying to come up with a submarine and a helicopter — I'm sure he ran into a bunch of SNAFUs when he did that and what happened? He screwed up and for hundreds of years the Chicken Littles yelped, "If God wanted humans to fly we'd have been born with wings." The closest we've come is the moon shot and half the people who did that are either dead or departing shortly (want some generation shock? Look at all those cigs and ashtrays on the desktops in Command Central in the tapes from back then). We're 'way behind in the space program but we have the Cold War and prioritization to thank for that (which I agree with: survive first, plenty of time to explore once the immediate threat has passed or been neutralized).

Yes, the gummint has been holding back information, but that's a given. I wouldn't start entertaining notions of poetic justice when you forge ahead into a high-risk situation and fairly spectacular SNAFUs start going off right, left 'n centre. Call me a disgusting Capricorn, but I don't get paranoid and bury my head in the conspiracy theory sand in a case like that: it charges me up and makes me even more determined to see it through :LOL:

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 3:53 pm

Colin Turnbull recordings on Mars. Huh.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 7:26 am

Sometimes you people are just too rational!

It's not the technology but the budget!

We know how to make it, we just don't have the money to do right.

Anyway they just lucked out because they landed in an area where there isn't higher life forms on the surface except for that odd stain which could be some type of microbiotic soil or something like a mushroom living undergound where the water is. Microbiotic soil much like the soil around Moab, UT.

It was exciting when the contact signal failed after landing! Thought it was for real. So did NASA. Could have been the Twilight Zone in Space just one more time!

Booooooooooo!

A II Z

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:00 pm

so it seems like the rover has some problems.

well I did'nt nor "The Last real burner" design it so it was to be expected.

how long does anyone think we will hear any logical response from it.

any bets?

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:03 pm

oh and hey.....

if RLB does not want to be asscioated with what I just said or with me,

it's A-O-K.

ha

Last Real Burner · Post by **Last Real Burner** » Sat Jan 24, 2004 12:06 am

Hi De Facto...

I'm excited about Mars, it taste better than Milkyway.

simulataniously,
mr smith

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Sat Jan 24, 2004 8:23 am

WE wont let the bush bunch open the north slope. So he wants to be first to the crude on mars.

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Sat Jan 24, 2004 12:14 pm

I'm willing to bet the damn rover has nothing more than a "blaster" virus.

Reboot, Reboot, Reboot

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Sat Jan 24, 2004 2:34 pm

danger! danger! Will Roberson danger! danger!

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Sat Jan 24, 2004 2:41 pm

and he didn't hit his paydirt there either.

It seem the little bastard Martians are back to their old tricks again!

Yes, it must have struck at night with their Ultra-Radiation "Blaster Virus" Rayguns and fried the memory chips. Its just continously babbling back reboot data without going into crucial nighttime hibernation mode. This could drain the batteries low enough to cause data problems. it requires a recharge period of several hours of full daylight, but they underestimated that amount of sunlight by 30%.

I think Bush and the Arm Forces are more concerned with the USA surviving a near earth object collision and still be in control of what little might remain.

A II Z

robotland · Post by **robotland** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 8:27 am

considering their failure rate, if we have to give the Mars explorebots dog names perhaps instead of "Rover" we could try "Rex"....(spelled phonetically...)

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:25 am

robotland wrote:considering their failure rate, if we have to give the Mars explorebots dog names perhaps instead of "Rover" we could try "Rex"....(spelled phonetically...)

well do to the special programming oversites (flashing memmory? what a weak excuse.) maybe call it Rexx.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:41 pm

looks like they figured a workaround to the flash memory problem through using alternate memory. sweet.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:54 pm

(sorry...double post)

Imagigrl · Post by **Imagigrl** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 3:47 pm

Take Me To Mars [F...Lips]
Yeah, 'cause when I drive in my car
We put heads in jars
So take me please, take me to Mars
I wanna go where they are (2x)
I wanna go
Yeah, and if I'm lost, well I don't care
'cause I walk on endless stairs
You say it's me, I think it's you
Who can blame us for thinkin' the way we do
'cause we don't care what we are (2x)
Take me please, take me to Mars (3x)
Take me to Mars (5x)

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 3:53 pm

Imagigrl,

Awsome......I'm in love.

(yes I have some time on my hands.)

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 8:41 am

Imagigrl wrote:Take Me To Mars [F...Lips]
Yeah, 'cause when I drive in my car
We put heads in jars
So take me please, take me to Mars
I wanna go where they are (2x)
I wanna go
Yeah, and if I'm lost, well I don't care
'cause I walk on endless stairs
You say it's me, I think it's you
Who can blame us for thinkin' the way we do
'cause we don't care what we are (2x)
Take me please, take me to Mars (3x)
Take me to Mars (5x)

Imagigrl- Bush is looking for someone like you for his new space program.

I think that they are underplaying the probable airborne vulcanic source of the hemitite.

Flash Memory problems! I can imagine depending on that during a long dusty photo trip. Wonder what the static level is during a typical playa dust storm?

A II Z

Wind_Borne · Post by **Wind_Borne** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 11:31 pm

I don't know if this is correct, but I read somewhere that the rover has just 128 MB of flash. 128 MB! I have more flash in that little USB memory stick that I stuff into the change pocket of my levis. Now of course the rover was designed and built quite a few years ago, and weight is a constant concern on spacecraft -- but 128 MB still seems small for such a data intensive mission.

Last Real Burner · Post by **Last Real Burner** » Tue Feb 03, 2004 1:17 am

the rover has just 128 MB of flash...
Yeah, but for another 5 Trillion dollars we can upgrade that to 512MB.

ironically,
mr smith

Wind_Borne · Post by **Wind_Borne** » Tue Feb 03, 2004 1:28 am

"I've got your 512 MB right here" he says scornfully, reaching for the change pocket of his levis.

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Tue Feb 03, 2004 1:36 am

Last Real Burner wrote:the rover has just 128 MB of flash...
Yeah, but for another 5 Trillion dollars we can upgrade that to 512MB.

ironically,
mr smith

Last Real Burner · Post by **Last Real Burner** » Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:01 pm

Don't laugh... I remember when a 10 meg harddrive was a couple-a grand, and it was the shit. (Boy am I old)

seniorly,
mr smith

Mars- The forbidden Planet!

Should we continue to land on Mars?

Mars- The forbidden Planet!

"3-Allow any citizen to get a hand count, if he pays...

This one just lucked out!

well looks like mars is upset with us!

I am me and so am I...

His odds were much better in Texas...

Take Me To Mars!

Re: Take Me To Mars!

Somebody call a Technician I think this Rovers' sick...

Re: Somebody call a Technician I think this Rovers' sick...

Oh, my! It's soooooo Big....